Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on February 01, 2007, 05:33:19 PM
I don't have a problem recognizing people for great achievements. I don't care if they're black, white, or purple. But this Black History Month exists solely for the purpose of dredging up every two-bit, almost noteworthy historical Black man/woman who ever lived, and heaping scads of praise and adulation on his or her "great achievement."
That it's a scam should be self-evident. If these so-called "great Americans" and their so-called "great achievements" really were great, then we wouldn't need a special month to highlight them. They'd be celebrated without imposing a special scam-month upon the population, because they really are that noteworthy.
As evidence, I cite this "Black History Quiz", prominently highlighted as the marquee story on Yahoo's main page:
http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/60468/the-buzz-black-history-quiz
In it, the reader is probed about his knowledge of such notable African Americans as (drum roll...) Bessie Coleman, Athena Gibson, Romare Beardon, Jacob Lawrence... Raise your hand if you know anything about any of these people. I'm sure they were all nice people and I don't mean to disparage any of them. But let's be honest, do any of them deserve major public celebration?
There are black people worth celebrating. No Black History Month is necessary to tell everyone how great an American Martin Luther King Jr was. The relevance of his achievements and contributions are self evident. Thurgood Marshall and George Washington Carver are familiar names to anyone who's been educated, not because of some phony Black History Month, but because these men and their achievements really are worth remembering.
Sorry for being a grump, but I really hate this sort of social propaganda. I ditched my TV especially so I could avoid this tripe, yet I'm still not able to escape it. This is only day one, and already its managed to penetrate into my life.
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 01, 2007, 05:38:39 PM
Post by: Twycross on February 01, 2007, 06:10:34 PM
Ever find it ironic that the modern-day champions of 'tolerance and diversity' still can't get past judging people by their skin color?
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 01, 2007, 06:16:16 PM
I'll respect black history month when we have white history month. No, wait. Then I'll just have two months to dislike.
Ever find it ironic that the modern-day champions of 'tolerance and diversity' still can't get past judging people by their skin color?
Ever find it ironic that the modern-day champions of 'tolerance and diversity' still can't get past judging people by their skin color?
Yes. Yes I have. Every time I hear that Condoleeza Rice isn't Black and "doesn't represent us."
Post by: SpookyPistolero on February 01, 2007, 06:41:43 PM
Make an objective change or contribution and I'll be first in line to give it a word of praise, be they a white guy or a purple woman with a conjoined fetus attached to her head.
Post by: CAnnoneer on February 01, 2007, 07:05:57 PM
Have you also noticed how they sneak in the occasional black person in medieval movies, especially directed to kids? Let's sacrifice common sense at the altar of raised "inclusiveness coefficient".
Post by: Sindawe on February 01, 2007, 07:10:37 PM
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It's time for Black History Month...
It is? Wow, I had not noticed. February for me is when I start checking out the buds on the trees for signs of activity, and making plans for the years garden. Two years ago it was wildflowers. Last year was psychoatives. I think I may try heirloom veggies this year.
Post by: Strings on February 01, 2007, 10:57:15 PM
You're also correct: some in society seem REALLY eager to plant people in pidgeon holes, neatly categorizing them. I asked a liberal once if maybe we should all get a code tattooed on our arms, that lets people know what "hole" we fit in. I could be a 5-2-4-6-00 (white-male-pagan-gun owning-libertarian). The we could just congregate with our own "types"...
Needless to say, the aforementioned lib was NOT happy with the suggestion...
Post by: The Rabbi on February 02, 2007, 02:41:08 AM
If they're really going to celebrate something, why not Black Achievement Month, highlighting individuals who rose above circumstance to make great achievements. And it is true that prior to the 1960s Blacks had a difficult time because of institionalized racism.
Of course if anyone did that, it would tend to discredit the idea that "black people dont have a chance in this country", which is the bedrock of current liberalism.
Post by: Standing Wolf on February 02, 2007, 03:37:02 AM
Post by: The Rabbi on February 02, 2007, 04:16:17 AM
On the proverbial "bright side," March is National Forest Products Month.
I didnt know forest products were a minority....
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 02, 2007, 05:04:21 AM
Post by: The Rabbi on February 02, 2007, 05:12:49 AM
Of course they are, Rabbi. Don't you know Haliburton's cutting down all the trees?
Of course. Halliburton is owned by Dick Cheney and he is trying to eliminate trees and just leave Bushes. It's all Bush's fault.
Post by: Strings on February 02, 2007, 05:30:02 AM
Post by: MechAg94 on February 02, 2007, 05:51:21 AM
Post by: Mabs2 on February 02, 2007, 09:09:00 AM
Unless they're suffocating, then help them.
Post by: crt360 on February 02, 2007, 09:13:43 AM
Post by: glockfan.45 on February 02, 2007, 10:28:24 AM
Post by: The Rabbi on February 02, 2007, 10:32:18 AM
But I agree that a lot of "racism" is perpetuated by people with a stake in seeing it perpetuated. I'd like to see states and Fed gov't stop asking for racial classifications on docs. I see that on the Form 4473 and it drives me nuts: what darn difference does it make what color the buyer is? You can't even opt out of it.
Post by: Brad Johnson on February 02, 2007, 10:39:04 AM
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I disagree with all of you. I hate purple people. Power to the one eyed, one horned, flying purple-people eaters. May they all be eaten.
Maybe they only need one of Jeremiah Peabody's Polyunsaturated Quick-Dissolving Fast-Acting Pleasant-Tasting Green and Purple Pills.
Brad
Post by: Matthew Carberry on February 02, 2007, 10:52:31 AM
I dont have a problem with Black-only colleges (as long as they arent getting gov't support).
But I agree that a lot of "racism" is perpetuated by people with a stake in seeing it perpetuated. I'd like to see states and Fed gov't stop asking for racial classifications on docs. I see that on the Form 4473 and it drives me nuts: what darn difference does it make what color the buyer is? You can't even opt out of it.
But I agree that a lot of "racism" is perpetuated by people with a stake in seeing it perpetuated. I'd like to see states and Fed gov't stop asking for racial classifications on docs. I see that on the Form 4473 and it drives me nuts: what darn difference does it make what color the buyer is? You can't even opt out of it.
We have to collect race and sex data on mortgage loan applications so that the .gov can make sure we are not being discriminate in our lending. But giving us the information is voluntary.
The punchline?
If they won't tell me, I have to, based solely on appearance and last name... guess what they are.
I'm so glad the government collects information so scientifically.
Post by: Tallpine on February 02, 2007, 11:11:02 AM
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I see that on the Form 4473 and it drives me nuts: what darn difference does it make what color the buyer is?
Well, if there was another "The Rabbi" who was black and a convicted felon, you might not want to be confused with him.
(I've seen your picture and I know you're not black)
Post by: slzy on February 02, 2007, 11:14:40 AM
Post by: JonnyB on February 02, 2007, 11:26:36 AM
A week or so later, a package arrived at home. Inside was a bright red Bible. Inside that, though, were illustrations of black (as in Negroid) characters. Who'd a' thunk? I didn't know the middle east was populated by blacks.
jb
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 02, 2007, 12:20:49 PM
Maybe they only need one of Jeremiah Peabody's Polyunsaturated Quick-Dissolving Fast-Acting Pleasant-Tasting Green and Purple Pills.
Oh, shoot. Ray Stevens?
That Black Jesus stuff is really sad. My biggest problem with it is that Christians pushing that sort of thing are really eroding the idea of a real, historical Jesus. If He is a real person, then He looked like the real Jews from which He descended. If he's just a concept or a legend then, sure, you can paint him any color you like.
Post by: Strings on February 02, 2007, 02:34:53 PM
Rabbi's not black?!?!?! Damn... my whole image of him is blown!
And fistful, I have to ask: does this ("If he's just a concept or a legend then, sure, you can paint him any color you like.") mean I can get out my neon purple and magenta?
Don't mind me... brain at the level of "fire bad, tree pretty". I'm going to be posting odd for awhile (yes: odd even for me)
Post by: Matthew Carberry on February 02, 2007, 05:26:00 PM
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 02, 2007, 08:35:29 PM
You evil man.
Post by: Monkeyleg on February 02, 2007, 09:47:26 PM
Nothing to see here. Keep moving on.
Post by: Strings on February 02, 2007, 09:56:36 PM
Personally, I'm MUCH more partial to wode...
Post by: slzy on February 02, 2007, 11:30:56 PM
Post by: Harold Tuttle on February 03, 2007, 05:27:13 AM
Dear Parents/Guardians,
In celebration of African American History, the third grade has
designed a poster project that the students should work on at home. We will still
discuss famous African Americans in the classroom, but the poster should be
developed at home.
attached is a packet of learning plans from edHelper.com
My daughter has chosen Rosa Parks to study,
would it be wrong to suggest she study Marion Barry?
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Barry was born in Itta Bena, Mississippi, but grew up in Memphis, is an Eagle Scout, and graduated from LeMoyne College (now LeMoyne-Owen College) in 1958. Barry also graduated with a Masters of organic chemistry from Fisk University in 1960.
Afterwards he joined the American civil rights movement during a movement to eliminate racial segregation of bus passengers, and was elected the first chairman of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC). He abandoned his doctoral chemistry studies at the University of Tennessee in Knoxville, Tennessee for his new duties. During his time leading SNCC, Barry heavily lobbied against racial segregation and discrimination.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_BarryAfterwards he joined the American civil rights movement during a movement to eliminate racial segregation of bus passengers, and was elected the first chairman of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC). He abandoned his doctoral chemistry studies at the University of Tennessee in Knoxville, Tennessee for his new duties. During his time leading SNCC, Barry heavily lobbied against racial segregation and discrimination.
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"The contagious people of Washington have stood firm against diversity during this long period of increment weather." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"I promise you a police car on every sidewalk." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"If you take out the killings, Washington actually has a very very low crime rate." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"First, it was not a strip bar, it was an erotic club. And second, what can I say? I'm a night owl." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"Bitch set me up." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"I am clearly more popular than Reagan. I am in my third term. Where's Reagan? Gone after two! Defeated by George Bush and Michael Dukakis no less." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"The laws in this city are clearly racist. All laws are racist. The law of gravity is racist." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"I am making this trip to Africa because Washington is an international city, just like Tokyo, Nigeria or Israel. As mayor, I am an international symbol. Can you deny that to Africa?" -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"People have criticized me because my security detail is larger than the president's. But you must ask yourself: are there more people who want to kill me than who want to kill the president? I can assure you there are." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"The brave men who died in Vietnam, more than 100% of which were black, were the ultimate sacrifice." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"I read a funny story about how the Republicans freed the slaves. The Republicans are the ones who created slavery by law in the 1600's. Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves and he was not a Republican." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"What right does Congress have to go around making laws just because they deem it necessary?" -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"People blame me because these water mains break, but I ask you, if the water mains didn't break, would it be my responsibility to fix them then? WOULD IT!?!" -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"I am a great mayor; I am an upstanding Christian man; I am an intelligent man; I am a deeply educated man; I am a humble man." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
http://www.skeptictank.org/barry.htm
"I promise you a police car on every sidewalk." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"If you take out the killings, Washington actually has a very very low crime rate." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"First, it was not a strip bar, it was an erotic club. And second, what can I say? I'm a night owl." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"Bitch set me up." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"I am clearly more popular than Reagan. I am in my third term. Where's Reagan? Gone after two! Defeated by George Bush and Michael Dukakis no less." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"The laws in this city are clearly racist. All laws are racist. The law of gravity is racist." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"I am making this trip to Africa because Washington is an international city, just like Tokyo, Nigeria or Israel. As mayor, I am an international symbol. Can you deny that to Africa?" -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"People have criticized me because my security detail is larger than the president's. But you must ask yourself: are there more people who want to kill me than who want to kill the president? I can assure you there are." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"The brave men who died in Vietnam, more than 100% of which were black, were the ultimate sacrifice." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"I read a funny story about how the Republicans freed the slaves. The Republicans are the ones who created slavery by law in the 1600's. Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves and he was not a Republican." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"What right does Congress have to go around making laws just because they deem it necessary?" -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"People blame me because these water mains break, but I ask you, if the water mains didn't break, would it be my responsibility to fix them then? WOULD IT!?!" -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
"I am a great mayor; I am an upstanding Christian man; I am an intelligent man; I am a deeply educated man; I am a humble man." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
Post by: Art Eatman on February 03, 2007, 05:40:28 AM
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54073
Art
Post by: CAnnoneer on February 03, 2007, 08:04:12 AM
Post by: Werewolf on February 03, 2007, 09:31:58 AM
Wait a minute? Purple people? You gotta draw the line somewhere. SCREW purple people...
Do purple women got big gazongas, 24-26 inch waists and 36 to 38 inch hips? If so I'm in...
Post by: The Rabbi on February 03, 2007, 02:48:58 PM
I dont have a problem with Black-only colleges (as long as they arent getting gov't support).
But I agree that a lot of "racism" is perpetuated by people with a stake in seeing it perpetuated. I'd like to see states and Fed gov't stop asking for racial classifications on docs. I see that on the Form 4473 and it drives me nuts: what darn difference does it make what color the buyer is? You can't even opt out of it.
But I agree that a lot of "racism" is perpetuated by people with a stake in seeing it perpetuated. I'd like to see states and Fed gov't stop asking for racial classifications on docs. I see that on the Form 4473 and it drives me nuts: what darn difference does it make what color the buyer is? You can't even opt out of it.
We have to collect race and sex data on mortgage loan applications so that the .gov can make sure we are not being discriminate in our lending. But giving us the information is voluntary.
The punchline?
If they won't tell me, I have to, based solely on appearance and last name... guess what they are.
I'm so glad the government collects information so scientifically.
I worked in that business and yes, it bugged me. Especially when I had to guess what they "sounded like."
I had a customer from Jordan and when he got to that question on the 4473 he paused. Technically he is "Asian" as Jordan is in Asia. But that isnt what they had in mind for the question. The whole thing is so friggin stupid it blows my mind.
Post by: CAnnoneer on February 04, 2007, 07:55:26 AM
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The whole thing is so friggin stupid it blows my mind.
That's decadent bourgeois thinking, Comrade! You should trust in the wisdom of the Party, for It will lead us to Unified Globoracist Globoculturalism exactly by divisive racist tribalist multiculturalist methods.
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 04, 2007, 09:23:47 AM
Post by: lupinus on February 04, 2007, 01:17:50 PM
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Have you also noticed how they sneak in the occasional black person in medieval movies, especially directed to kids? Let's sacrifice common sense at the altar of raised "inclusiveness coefficient".
Nothing new actually. There is a 1970's movie caled (I think) The norsemen. Wanna know what color one of the vikings are? Come on take a wild guess you know you want to.Anyway it makes me want to hurl. I want to know what happens when some white people try a white college fund, white tv, white magazine, etc. Yep, we are racists. The only thing we are tolerent of is intolerance these days.