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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Ben on January 20, 2019, 09:50:28 AM
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I had not heard of any news or other info (though I wasn't looking) regarding Brexit potentially causing any major supply problems for the British. I don't know if it will or not, but it was interesting to read about these "preppers", which don't seem to be as extreme as some US preppers.
I've never really considered that there are "prepper mentalities" anywhere in the EU. I'm curious how much, and to what degree (i.e., simple food storage vs underground bunkers) it goes on in that part of the world.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/14/i-dont-trust-the-government-to-look-after-me-or-my-dog-meet-the-brexit-stockpilers
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I would hope a lot. How many wars does it take? The days of captured German guns hidden in the barn are probably over though. Maybe.
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There's a young woman on YouTube using the name Survival Lilly living in or near Germany who does videos on survival in both urban and wilderness environments. She's pretty good. Her bug out camp is pretty awesome.
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I would hope a lot. How many wars does it take? The days of captured German guns hidden in the barn are probably over though. Maybe.
I only have my one data point, but I'm the only one of all my cousins who does any kind of "prepping". The rest don't even seem to think about it, which to me is weird. They heard all the same stories from their parents that I heard from mine, as well as those told by our grandparents about what life was like during WW2, including the banks going broke and lack of food and stuff. The most any of them do is grow a garden, but that's practically a national pastime anyway.
I sort of attributed that to me being in America and them in Germany, but maybe not. I'll have to dig up the German prepper girl unless Chris has a link. :)
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I would hope a lot. How many wars does it take? The days of captured German guns hidden in the barn are probably over though. Maybe.
Old joke:
Q: "Why do Lithuanians sprinkle oil on their gardens?"
A: "To keep the guns from rusting."
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https://www.youtube.com/user/alonewolverine1984/videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF5rEt0KErcP4nyajN8ZbIQ/videos
I assume this is her.
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Oh, pReppers!
I thought this was another throwback spice thread.
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There are plenty of rumours that the IRA still has a lot of Armalites, Semtex, and even old SMLE's hidden even after they were all supposed to be "Decommissioned" back in 1998.
And Brexit promises to be even more of mess between Ireland and Northern Ireland then Britain and the rest of the EU.
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There are plenty of rumours that the IRA still has a lot of Armalites, Semtex, and even old SMLE's hidden even after they were all supposed to be "Decommissioned" back in 1998.
And Brexit promises to be even more of mess between Ireland and Northern Ireland then Britain and the rest of the EU.
I'd be shocked if they didn't squirrel some away.
Oh, pReppers!
I thought this was another throwback spice thread.
Anyone here grow their own paprika or cayenne peppers?
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The tone of the Guardian article is amusing. "Look! We found some preppers who aren't batshit crazy!"
Probably because this kind of prepping fits their anti-Brexit narrative.
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The pictures from the article just look like hurricane supplies. Not years of food like I would picture.
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The pictures from the article just look like hurricane supplies. Not years of food like I would picture.
I think that's normal prepping for something like the potential goods disruptions they're talking about. A weeks to months supply is probably a good call. If there were in fact disruptions, it wouldn't be "no food" but more likely, "sometimes food is on the store shelves and sometimes a shipment didn't make it" at least until Britain and its trading partners figure out whatever the new trading infrastructure is. I can't see it being a long term event. That is if anything happens at all. But I'm giving them credit for not wanting to follow in the footsteps of many Katrina survivors and running out of food in the first 12 hours. :)
If they were prepping for an EMP or something, then yeah, they could use more food and they're missing some other stuff too. Otherwise, were I emperor of America, I would mandate that every household kept at least two weeks of long shelf life food in their homes for emergencies. People who kept a month's worth or more would get a tax write-off. :)
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I think I could do six months here. I have a 24 #10 can stash of mountain house, couple that with the other stuff and I would be okay. Need to replenish the other stuff like the canned meat and butter, gonna be awhile financially. People that have no reserves fascinate me.
Brits ought to be more exposed to us. Skip the food, I am sitting here wondering how to more money to buy more cases of .22. like scrooge McDuck swim in the ammo quantities.
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"Everyday foods" in the cupboards and fridge are around a 4-6 week supply right now. Another few weeks on the 25lb bag of rice sitting in the kitchen. I figure between a few cases of MREs and a big dehydrated bucket 'O food, plus a couple of small cases of Mountain House I got on sale last year, I've got five months - six if I stretch the full meals, or depending on the time of year and what's in the garden (like pounds and pounds of potatoes) maybe a little more.
Right now all the emergency food except for the Mountain House is past expiration. For some years I was pretty good about pulling a few MREs a year and eating them when hiking or whatever, then replenishing when I emptied a case. I have slacked off on that. The bucket 'O food is one of those 20 year things (it might actually still be within dates, but it's close), though it, and the MREs have been through some non-optimal temperature swings over the years. I probably won't throw them out for a while, but will keep them as "emergency backup" emergency food, and stock up on a couple more dehydrated buckets with fresh dates. I think I prefer them over the MREs. MREs sound cool, but the dehydrated stuff with a 20-25 year shelf life is more practical.
That will either extend my dates or else leave me with the expired stuff to trade or give away, because if somebody didn't prepare, they can suck it and take their chances with the old stuff. =D
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On the Mountain House #10 buckets, is it just a big bucket of dried food or are there separate packs in there?
My long life food is just a few weeks worth. Been thinking of adding more of it this year.
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We just always have plenty. It’s our normal.
There are shelves in the basement stocked with home canned and store bought canned goods, 3 freezers and 2 refrigerators, and dry goods in the pantry. We don’t stock it and not use it. We use it all in rotation.
Brought home 1/2 a beef last week, venison, chicken, turkeys, pork loin, and some fish. Meat we have covered.
I always keep at least 4 weeks worth of dog food on hand.
And wines aplenty.
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And wines aplenty.
My whisky stash is getting low, I need to restock.
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On the Mountain House #10 buckets, is it just a big bucket of dried food or are there separate packs in there?
My long life food is just a few weeks worth. Been thinking of adding more of it this year.
I'm pretty sure the #10 cans are not individual. The stuff I have I got at Costco way back in a 5 gallon bucket. It is various individual packets of breakfast and dinner style foods. They each say "4 servings", but as with most dehydrated food, for me at least, that means 2.
If you have enough people, the #10 cans are probably fine since they're resealable and you'll likely go through them well before anything goes bad. For 1-2 people though, I kinda like the smaller packages.
We've had these discussions before, and I'm big on "stuff I would eat anyway", so I have things like canned beans and veggies, sacks of rice, etc. that are good for the "short" long term as my primary stash, and cycle through that as I would any other food I buy that I eat everyday. The dehydrated food is mostly last resort stuff specifically for the long shelf life and easy portability of a lot of servings. Though that Mountain House biscuits and gravy is pretty tasty. :laugh:
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On the Mountain House #10 buckets, is it just a big bucket of dried food or are there separate packs in there?
My long life food is just a few weeks worth. Been thinking of adding more of it this year.
I haven't opened one, but It's my understanding that once you open the can, you have about a week to use it all.
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I haven't opened one, but It's my understanding that once you open the can, you have about a week to use it all.
I wonder if you can vacuum seal it to extend that a little (assuming you have electricity for the vacuum sealer)?
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I just went and looked, the can of rice and chicken I grabbed is 12 servings. The pouches are more handy, I have a variety bucket that comes with like 15 and I jammed more in there along with one of those stowable backpacks. So the bucket goes with me a lot easier than 24 gallon cans. Typically with the oddball mountain House if I see a new variety I buy several retail, try one and store the rest. Builds a little stockpile. The turkey dinner wasn't bad when I was alone in the woods for Thanksgiving.
I am kinda slacking. Usually I have a cooler in a kitchen cabinet with two twenty pound bags of rice, one open, one not and I get a new one when I open the second. Down to about 15 now.
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I am shocked that the EU is "allowing" Great Britain to exit. I'd imagine the EU constitution would effort to power-grab much like the US constitution is asserted to have the authority to prevent secession.
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https://www.youtube.com/user/alonewolverine1984/videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF5rEt0KErcP4nyajN8ZbIQ/videos
I assume this is her.
Sorry. Busy shoveling. That's her.
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I am shocked that the EU is "allowing" Great Britain to exit. I'd imagine the EU constitution would effort to power-grab much like the US constitution is asserted to have the authority to prevent secession.
It took a war for the US to settle(ish) that secession question. Who exactly would the EU use to fight that war? We and the Brits have been the heavy hitters of NATO for decades.
The French, while capable, are small and the Germans have some cultural hang ups with bombing Britain.
There's not a ton the EU can do, other than threaten to stop and/or complicate trade, and they did that.
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the Germans have some cultural hang ups with bombing Britain.
LOL
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It took a war for the US to settle(ish) that secession question. Who exactly would the EU use to fight that war? We and the Brits have been the heavy hitters of NATO for decades.
The French, while capable, are small and the Germans have some cultural hang ups with bombing Britain.
There's not a ton the EU can do, other than threaten to stop and/or complicate trade, and they did that.
We have a few troops in Europe too.
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Sorry. Busy shoveling. That's her.
I would ask for a story, but that might violate the 3rd S. =)
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I would ask for a story, but that might violate the 3rd S. =)
Nothing interesting. Snow shoveling. Didn't check APS for sometime after while waiting for Advil and vodka to kill the pain. :lol:
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I don’t think they are doing this correctly. I see no mention of bug out Bags with inventory lists that would be impossible for the average person to carry and no talk about Katanas with telephone cord wrapped around the handle. And finally worse yet, no mention of Assault Wheelbarrows!
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Nothing interesting. Snow shoveling. Didn't check APS for sometime after while waiting for Advil and vodka to kill the pain. :lol:
Be careful burying stuff in the snow. Someone will find it in a few months. =D
The only emergency bag I need to set up is something to go in my truck. I have no illusions about being able to walk out the area I live and get very far. I know how I feel after walking 5 or 6 miles and that is with no weight on a planned charity walk. I need to get in better condition if I was planning to pack out of my area on foot. I would rather keep extra gas and such to make sure I can drive somewhere.
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^^^I think about this, now that I am working in downtown Seattle, in a weapons-free healthcare environment, 43 miles from my home. My emergency bag is in the truck, 26 miles from my office at the park and ride.