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Title: Tueller Drill - How Not to Do It
Post by: MechAg94 on March 25, 2019, 10:01:13 AM

http://www.wfxg.com/2019/03/18/investigators-augusta-man-killed-while-testing-foot-rule/

https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2019/03/21/man-killed-testing-21-foot-rule/
Man Killed Testing ’21-Foot Rule’

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Spencer Warren told investigators he and Splichal has been debating the “21-foot rule” and were going to see how close Splichal could get to Warren before Warren could fire his gun. Warren says he emptied his .357 revolver but did not fully clear it. When Splichal lunged toward him to test the theory, Warren squeezed the trigger twice, firing 1 round into Splichal’s chest.

This one shocked me a bit when I first heard about it and I had no words.  Later I was wondering how you clear a revolver and forget to make sure all the rounds came out.  And why would anyone do a test where successful completion means someone aimed a real gun at you and pulled the trigger? 

Title: Re: Tueller Drill - How Not to Do It
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 25, 2019, 10:33:20 AM

So Tueller was wrong. Well done, gentlemen. We thank you for your service.

Title: Re: Tueller Drill - How Not to Do It
Post by: Ben on March 25, 2019, 10:43:44 AM

First one in with the link!

https://youtu.be/9wzAGE4quWU

Title: Re: Tueller Drill - How Not to Do It
Post by: Angel Eyes on March 25, 2019, 01:12:50 PM

Quote from: Ben on March 25, 2019, 10:43:44 AM

First one in with the link!

https://youtu.be/9wzAGE4quWU

I knew it . . . I knew it . . .

Title: Re: Tueller Drill - How Not to Do It
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 25, 2019, 05:23:48 PM

First link:

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Warren says he emptied his .357 revolver but did not fully clear it.

The pedant in me would have to point out that if he didn't "fully" clear it (I'm still trying to figure out how you UNfully clear a firearm) and there was a round in the cylinder, then he obviously did not "empty" it. He may have thought he emptied it ... but he didn't empty it.

Title: Re: Tueller Drill - How Not to Do It
Post by: MechAg94 on March 25, 2019, 07:17:20 PM

Quote from: Hawkmoon on March 25, 2019, 05:23:48 PM

First link:

The pedant in me would have to point out that if he didn't "fully" clear it (I'm still trying to figure out how you UNfully clear a firearm) and there was a round in the cylinder, then he obviously did not "empty" it. He may have thought he emptied it ... but he didn't empty it.

I was imagining he upended the cylinder and thought all the rounds dropped out and didn't bump the ejector. 

Title: Re: Tueller Drill - How Not to Do It
Post by: BobR on March 25, 2019, 07:26:13 PM

Maybe he should have started at 12 feet and worked out from there.  =|


bob

Title: Re: Tueller Drill - How Not to Do It
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 27, 2019, 01:41:33 AM

Quote from: MechAg94 on March 25, 2019, 07:17:20 PM

I was imagining he upended the cylinder and thought all the rounds dropped out and didn't bump the ejector. 

https://youtu.be/WOax8ZtLJdI?t=35

Title: Re: Tueller Drill - How Not to Do It
Post by: MechAg94 on March 27, 2019, 09:17:28 AM

Quote from: fistful on March 27, 2019, 01:41:33 AM

https://youtu.be/WOax8ZtLJdI?t=35

That must be it.

Never got around to seeing that movie.