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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Hawkmoon on April 17, 2019, 01:43:02 PM

Title: Red flag laws
Post by: Hawkmoon on April 17, 2019, 01:43:02 PM
https://www.capitalgazette.com/news/for_the_record/ac-cn-glen-burnie-homicide-20190416-story.html

As so-called "red flag" laws proliferate, a guy who really needed a protective order against his neighbor wasn't given one, and now he's dead. (Not that the order would have helped -- the alleged killer has a lengthy track record that includes a prior instance of violating a protective order.)

More evidence to support what many of us already know -- these new laws aren't really intended to protect anyone, they're just aimed at creating more excuses to disarm the populace.
Title: Re: Red flag laws
Post by: RoadKingLarry on April 17, 2019, 02:13:03 PM
While maybe good in theory there is far too much room for abuse with "red flag " laws as they are being enacted.
No penalty for false reports/claims,need to be harsh and enforced. Need to have some actual due process up front, none of the SWAT style raids after an anonymous report from a disgruntled neighbor/ex/rival.
The way they are now more innocent people and over zealous cops are gonna get dead.
Title: Re: Red flag laws
Post by: MechAg94 on April 17, 2019, 09:39:02 PM
The red flag laws aren't even good in theory IMO.  It should take about 2 seconds to notice that no due process is included.  There also doesn't seem to be any limit on what excuses can be used to justify action.  I think you have to be incredibly short sighted to favor them (unless you have other motives).

Title: Re: Red flag laws
Post by: Hawkmoon on April 18, 2019, 01:47:26 AM
The proponents argue that allowing the [real] victim to appear at a hearing two weeks after his (or her) guns have been stolen temporarily confiscated to show cause why the aforementioned guns should not stay stolen confiscated constitutes due process.

I disagree ... and not necessarily respectfully.
Title: Re: Red flag laws
Post by: Boomhauer on April 18, 2019, 02:19:25 AM
I’ve long since come to the conclusion that the “justice system” and the government in general’s purpose is to hinder and harass the normal law abiding citizen while aiding, abetting, and protecting the criminals. After all politicians have to look out for their own kind of psychopaths...

Title: Re: Red flag laws
Post by: bedlamite on April 18, 2019, 10:26:48 AM
I’ve long since come to the conclusion that the “justice system” and the government in general’s purpose is to hinder and harass the normal law abiding citizen while aiding, abetting, and protecting the criminals. After all politicians have to look out for their own kind of psychopaths...



It's not a justice system. It's a legal system.