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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Hawkmoon on June 20, 2019, 10:44:45 PM
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And the liberal atheists are going bonkers.
https://apnews.com/6157d29563584c35a2adf6a004f89117
As usual, they can't (or won't) even bother to accurately report what the Constitution says. From the article:
And the court concluded that the nearly 100-year-old memorial’s presence on a grassy highway median doesn’t violate the Constitution’s prohibition on the government favoring one religion over others.
An earlier article, written before the decision was released, said the same thing:
https://wtop.com/supreme-court/2019/02/supreme-court-considers-fate-of-cross-shaped-war-memorial/slide/1/
The cross’s challengers include three area residents and the District of Columbia-based American Humanist Association, a group that includes atheists and agnostics. They argue that the cross’s location on public land violates the First Amendment’s establishment clause, which prohibits the government from favoring one religion over others.
Is that what the First Amendment says? That's not the way I remember it. Lemme see ... Oh, yeah:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
I ain't a lawyer, but it seems to me that allowing members of a particular religion to erect a memorial on public land is a very different thing from the government declaring that henceforth [___] is THE religion of the land. Not only that, if one is intellectually honest (which, of course, liberals and politicians aren't), the strict language of the First Amendment says nothing about the government "favoring" one religion over another; it only prohibits the government from establishing a religion [as the official religion of the nation].
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I was going WTF while reading the plaintiff's stuff.
I was wondering if there were an earlier case which defined it as "favoring."
Glad you brought that up, Hawkmoon.
Another case of "control the language, control the issue."
Clever bastards.
Terry,23RN
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Any bets on the monument lasting the weekend unscathed?
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A 7-2 decision. Funny how the atheists and agnostics never sue over these religious symbols erected and maintainedby the US Government.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lKrEEeQx0t8/TG3b9n1ZRuI/AAAAAAAABIw/KI872xY13Wgg3iKb-GzCcRYAoI2xxy_WgCCo/s1600/P1450480.JPG)
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A 7-2 decision.
The 2 were Ginsburg and Sotomayor.
I wonder how these two would have voted if it was a crescent moon?
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These groups have failed with money, the pledge of allegiance, opening prayers in legislative sessions (but have won in some cases to prevent prayer in local legislative meetings such as town councils) and in having Christmas derecognized as a government holiday.
I don't think they'd be crass enough to start trying to get religious symbols removed from gravestones in government cemeteries. Those quite obviously denote the religion of the individual buried there. But with these people, you never know.
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leftists, and other people who have never read the constitution, tend to think that the words 'separation of church and state' are actually in the document. Those that have read it in passing seem to think that the words "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereo" is synonymous to "courts are to be used to remove all public displays of religeon(1)."
(1)Except secular humanism- worshiping human achievement above all else is A-OK.
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A 7-2 decision. Funny how the atheists and agnostics never sue over these religious symbols erected and maintainedby the US Government.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lKrEEeQx0t8/TG3b9n1ZRuI/AAAAAAAABIw/KI872xY13Wgg3iKb-GzCcRYAoI2xxy_WgCCo/s1600/P1450480.JPG)
Similar to why SJWs won't assault a biker for their MAGA hat while having no problem doing so to a teenage girl.
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Similar to why SJWs won't assault a biker for their MAGA hat while having no problem doing so to a teenage girl.
Yep, cowards rarely choose to fight someone who can and will fight back. Go after Arljngton and other national cemeteries, see how many stand in the way.