Armed Polite Society

Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Ron on June 28, 2019, 08:33:07 AM

Title: More fun at the library
Post by: Ron on June 28, 2019, 08:33:07 AM
https://www.thecollegefix.com/video-undercover-moms-expose-graphic-teen-pride-public-library-event-then-get-doxxed-by-antifa/

I’m really just amazed at the speed in which the country is flying apart at the seams.

This is not normal.

Yet, Cory Booker, who probably won’t be nominated but is a serious VP contender, actually said we need to do more for trans kids. They do need help, just not the help of insane leftists who are detached from reality.

These events are a glimpse into the future the Democrats and Rinos are preparing for us.

As a side note. I worked with a guy who “transitioned” over a two year period. Hormones and cosmetic surgery but I’m pretty sure the rest of the equipment was still in place. He was never gone long enough for that dramatic of surgery to have taken place.

He told me how he was part of a group that would help counsel confused children at a prestigious hospital in Chicago.

Married, hard worker, smart, NRA lifetime member and very libertarian.

He was the only one who regularly wore skirts. He rocked the ugly librarian look. Eventually he left and became a flight attendant.

Despite my workplace friendship and respect for him I cannot in good conscience pretend that this is normal, Ok or something I want my government promoting in our educational institutions.

This is madness.






Title: Re: More fun at the library
Post by: brimic on June 28, 2019, 09:05:52 AM
Quote
Despite my workplace friendship and respect for him I cannot in good conscience pretend that this is normal, Ok or something I want my government promoting in our educational institutions.

As a friend of mine is fond of saying about the subject: "I'm ok with people living out a fantasy, but I'm not ok with being forcefully drawn into that fantasy to support it."
Title: Re: More fun at the library
Post by: Ron on June 28, 2019, 09:19:12 AM
As a friend of mine is fond of saying about the subject: "I'm ok with people living out a fantasy, but I'm not ok with being forcefully drawn into that fantasy to support it."

If I wanted to keep my job I had to play along.

The transition of the whole workplace trying to remember to use the correct pronoun and not “dead-naming” him was pretty farcical.

The ladies in particular were really stressed out about using the wrong pronoun or his old name.

This absolute confusion is the natural conclusion of libertarianism.
Title: Re: More fun at the library
Post by: brimic on June 28, 2019, 10:52:25 AM


This absolute confusion is the natural conclusion of libertarianism.

If you can use authority to coerce orto bully people to act against their morals and values, its not libertarianism, its liberal fascism.

For instance: the antifa in that article are about as far away from libertarianism as you can get- they want to use the full power of government to control people, confiscate wealth, and almost certainly exterminate people they ideologically disagree with. One major flaw of libertarianism is NAP, which allows antisocial behavior to go too far before considering restraints. There are certain ideologies that not only don't fit into western culture, but are the antithesis of all other ideologies in western culture.
Title: Re: More fun at the library
Post by: Ron on June 28, 2019, 11:34:43 AM
Maybe I’m wrong, but I suspect the overwhelming majority of libertarians if asked to choose a side in this debate would choose the trans side.

They of course will feel bad about the eggs that had/will have to be broken to make their liberty omelet.
Title: Re: More fun at the library
Post by: griz on June 28, 2019, 12:28:33 PM
I just saw a study where the researchers were downright shocked to learn that nearly 90 percent of the folks questioned would only consider dating what the researchers labeled cisgendered people.  They were very concerned that this would greatly cut down on the possibilities for trans people and would cause them a lot of problems.  It was as if they were genuinely surprised that sexual attraction played a part in the dating process.  A better example of cluelessness I can't imagine.
Title: Re: More fun at the library
Post by: WLJ on June 28, 2019, 12:29:55 PM
I just saw a study where the researchers were downright shocked to learn that nearly 90 percent of the folks questioned would only consider dating what the researchers labeled cisgendered people.  They were very concerned that this would greatly cut down on the possibilities for trans people and would cause them a lot of problems.  It was as if they were genuinely surprised that sexual attraction played a part in the dating process.  A better example of cluelessness I can't imagine.

The science is settled
Title: Re: More fun at the library
Post by: Ron on June 28, 2019, 01:11:43 PM
While the right has been useless in stopping this insanity from spreading, it is always good to remind ourselves that it is the left actively promoting this inversion of that which is good.

This is just part of the lefts replacement for traditional norms and morality.

The march through the institutions took decades and is now coming to fruition.

The lunatics are in charge of the asylum.
Title: Re: More fun at the library
Post by: makattak on June 28, 2019, 01:15:14 PM
The march through the institutions took decades and is now coming to fruition.

The lunatics are in charge of the asylum.

I have to wonder how much of this was purposeful subversion by the USSR. The KGB (and other Russian espionage services) play/played a LONG game.

Did we win the Cold War, but still suffer a mortal wound?
Title: Re: More fun at the library
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 28, 2019, 01:39:19 PM
Maybe I’m wrong, but I suspect the overwhelming majority of libertarians if asked to choose a side in this debate would choose the trans side.

They of course will feel bad about the eggs that had/will have to be broken to make their liberty omelet.

I don't identify as a Libertarian (with a capital 'L') but I have libertarian leanings. I don't think a true libertarian would support forcing society to kow tow to the current rage of gender self-identification. And I certainly don't think a true libertarian would support bringing the full force of the government down on someone because, after ten or twenty years of calling someone "George" or "Mr. Samuels," suddenly George or Mr. Samuals decided that he's a she and people have trouble knowing what to call him/her/it.

Libertarianism is (or is supposed to be) about leaving people alone and keeping government out of their lives as much as possible. In that vein, it's fine if George wants to be Georgette, but nobody would be punished for believing that if "Georgette" still has male parts under "her" skirts he/she/it is not a woman, he/she/it is a male transvestite.
Title: Re: More fun at the library
Post by: griz on June 28, 2019, 01:41:55 PM
I have to wonder how much of this was purposeful subversion by the USSR. The KGB (and other Russian espionage services) play/played a LONG game.

Did we win the Cold War, but still suffer a mortal wound?

It was bad enough when they only had control of the 2016 election, now the Russians are actually hacking biology?!?!
Title: Re: More fun at the library
Post by: charby on June 28, 2019, 01:46:26 PM
Maybe I’m wrong, but I suspect the overwhelming majority of libertarians if asked to choose a side in this debate would choose the trans side.

They of course will feel bad about the eggs that had/will have to be broken to make their liberty omelet.

More of not giving a flying f*** what someone does.

Am I still getting paid, laid and have food on the table, yep, don't care.
Title: Re: More fun at the library
Post by: MillCreek on June 28, 2019, 01:48:16 PM
I have to wonder how much of this was purposeful subversion by the USSR. The KGB (and other Russian espionage services) play/played a LONG game.

Did we win the Cold War, but still suffer a mortal wound?

I once ran into a pediatrician who had a standard reply for the conspiracy anti-vaccine people.  The people who say vaccines are a conspiracy of Big Pharma and the Government.  The pediatrician would say: "How do you know that the anti-vaxxers aren't unwitting sheep being led as part of a conspiracy by the Russians and Chinese to damage the health of the US population?."
Title: Re: More fun at the library
Post by: brimic on June 28, 2019, 01:53:41 PM
I once ran into a pediatrician who had a standard reply for the conspiracy anti-vaccine people.  The people who say vaccines are a conspiracy of Big Pharma and the Government.  The pediatrician would say: "How do you know that the anti-vaxxers aren't unwitting sheep being led as part of a conspiracy by the Russians and Chinese to damage the health of the US population?."

But jet feel don't melt steel beamz!!! *arms flapping*
Title: Re: More fun at the library
Post by: Ron on June 28, 2019, 01:55:44 PM
It was bad enough when they only had control of the 2016 election, now the Russians are actually hacking biology?!?!

Biology?

There are a lot of factors in both nurture and nature at play as well as environmental factors.

Regardless, forcing normal folks into pretending folks with variously disordered lives are normal is nothing more than brain washing, gaslighting etc.

I was forced to call a man “she” etc for two years. How is that little Orwellian chapter in my life healthy, for anyone?





Title: Re: More fun at the library
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 28, 2019, 04:17:51 PM

Yet, Cory Booker, who probably won’t be nominated but is a serious VP contender, actually said we need to do more for trans kids. They do need help, just not the help of insane leftists who are detached from reality.


IMHO the best thing we could do for "trans" kids would be to take them away from parents who enable such delusions, and cut them off from as many media outlets as possible that glamorize said delusion.
Title: Re: More fun at the library
Post by: RoadKingLarry on June 28, 2019, 04:34:47 PM
Biology?

There are a lot of factors in both nurture and nature at play as well as environmental factors.

Regardless, forcing normal folks into pretending folks with variously disordered lives are normal is nothing more than brain washing, gaslighting etc.

I was forced to call a man “she” etc for two years. How is that little Orwellian chapter in my life healthy, for anyone?


And it is no longer enough to just accept.or tolerate these things. If you don't celebrate it enthusiastically enough it means you are a racistmysogonistichomphobicxenophobic vile piece of nonconformist crap.
Title: Re: More fun at the library
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 28, 2019, 05:35:38 PM
And it is no longer enough to just accept.or tolerate these things. If you don't celebrate it enthusiastically enough it means you are a racistmysogonistichomphobicxenophobic vile piece of nonconformist crap.

Is that the new euphemism for "normal"?
Title: Re: More fun at the library
Post by: Ben on June 28, 2019, 06:46:26 PM
And it is no longer enough to just accept.or tolerate these things.

This is my problem with all of it. I can live and let live, but you'd better get the hell out of my face.

Though "in your face" seems to be getting them the attention and skewing of numbers that they want. Your average American schmuck currently estimates the gay population at 25%, when in reality, it's around 5%. I'm sure that part of this is Hollywood making shows where 50% of the cast is some kind of gay, and then spending all the overt romantic time in the show on them, while downplaying the heterosexual interaction.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/259571/americans-greatly-overestimate-gay-population.aspx
Title: Re: More fun at the library
Post by: grampster on June 28, 2019, 06:55:07 PM
I have a perfect example of what you fellows have been talking about in the last couple threads.  Yesterday we had a beautiful, rare, very obvious double rainbow.  I posted the pics on Facebook and someone posted that we must be having a Pride Parade in our town.  So, even a rainbow that is as rare as this double, had a sexual connotation to a homosexual acquaintance.
Title: Re: More fun at the library
Post by: charby on June 28, 2019, 07:25:28 PM
This is my problem with all of it. I can live and let live, but you'd better get the hell out of my face.

Though "in your face" seems to be getting them the attention and skewing of numbers that they want. Your average American schmuck currently estimates the gay population at 25%, when in reality, it's around 5%. I'm sure that part of this is Hollywood making shows where 50% of the cast is some kind of gay, and then spending all the overt romantic time in the show on them, while downplaying the heterosexual interaction.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/259571/americans-greatly-overestimate-gay-population.aspx

It's not hard to ignore something, if you really want to. Skim past articles that mention it is a good start. We had a Pride Prom where I live, didn't even notice it going on except maybe a couple flyers on the community bulletin boards at businesses I frequent.
Title: Re: More fun at the library
Post by: lee n. field on June 28, 2019, 07:32:43 PM
Regardless, forcing normal folks into pretending folks with variously disordered lives are normal is nothing more than brain washing, gaslighting etc.

I was forced to call a man “she” etc for two years. How is that little Orwellian chapter in my life healthy, for anyone?

I'm convinced it's a power thing, to force someone through social pressure to say something everyone knows is false.  Everyone sane.
Title: Re: More fun at the library
Post by: zxcvbob on June 28, 2019, 09:24:56 PM
This is my problem with all of it. I can live and let live, but you'd better get the hell out of my face.

Though "in your face" seems to be getting them the attention and skewing of numbers that they want. Your average American schmuck currently estimates the gay population at 25%, when in reality, it's around 5%. I'm sure that part of this is Hollywood making shows where 50% of the cast is some kind of gay, and then spending all the overt romantic time in the show on them, while downplaying the heterosexual interaction.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/259571/americans-greatly-overestimate-gay-population.aspx

I watch the first season or season and a half of Torchwood.  It was obvious from that *everybody* in Britain is some kind of gay; a few of them don't realize it yet but they'll figure it out eventually.  (perhaps that's just in Cardiff, but the show made it look like it's the whole kingdom)
Title: Re: More fun at the library
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 29, 2019, 06:33:06 PM
I'm convinced it's a power thing, to force someone through social pressure to say something everyone knows is false.  Everyone sane.

I think another, possibly more important goal for the Left is to undermine and weaken families, as they've been doing with social spending for decades now. Unwed mothers, or absent fathers, means more families dependent on government.

I believe I predicted that making marriage gender-neutral would mean that reason and fact no longer apply. Now they know they can deny reality, and replace it with whatever madness they choose. They know they can insist that govt endorse all manner of absurdities, and make normal people look evil and stupid, if they won't go along with it.

Title: Re: More fun at the library
Post by: Andiron on June 29, 2019, 08:57:48 PM
I've said it before,  and will continue to as long as the LBGTWTFBBQ folks keep trying to 1984 me.  

THERE ARE 4 LIGHTS.


https://youtu.be/o_eSwq1ewsU


Screw playing their word games.  He isn't she, or the reverse.  Don't  validate their psychosis.

Both of those episodes of Star Trek TNG were great,  love Stewart's performance.
Title: Re: More fun at the library
Post by: Scout26 on July 02, 2019, 09:54:11 AM
When the ex- started at her then new job at UHC, there was a male who was transitioning to female.  Now this was an office full of (mostly) female nurses.  What I found funny was that the ex- had always been somewhat liberal...

Until she had to share a bathroom with a man.  And she wasn't the only one.  Whenever there were get togethers with her co-workers, inevitably the conversation would turn to "Bill" and his still male plumbing in the women's restroom.

Needless to say, none of them we happy about the situation and even once as a large-ish group confronted their boss about the situation, only to be told that per company policy there was nothing she could do about it.

Title: Re: More fun at the library
Post by: makattak on July 02, 2019, 10:21:31 AM
When the ex- started at her then new job at UHC, there was a male who was transitioning to female.  Now this was an office full of (mostly) female nurses.  What I found funny was that the ex- had always been somewhat liberal...

Until she had to share a bathroom with a man.  And she wasn't the only one.  Whenever there were get togethers with her co-workers, inevitably the conversation would turn to "Bill" and his still male plumbing in the women's restroom.

Needless to say, none of them we happy about the situation and even once as a large-ish group confronted their boss about the situation, only to be told that per company policy there was nothing she could do about it.

Yep, so long as it is "THOSE PEOPLE" who have to deal with the consequences, the liberals are all for compassion and tolerance and love.

The second it actually costs them something or makes them uncomfortable, most liberals become hard nosed NOT IN MY BACKYARD!

As an example, I am reminded of the fierce champions of public school, who fight HARD against the dastardly right who would DARE undermine the virtuous public schools by suggesting charters or vouchers... and who, of course, send their children to private school.