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Title: Teens Steal Imprecisely Designed Rifle
Post by: BobR on August 12, 2019, 06:26:16 PM
Dateline Tennessee, two teens (young men) decided they wanted the school resource officer's rifle (designed to fire imprecisely), an AR 15 so they broke into their former school and took it along with his body armor from his safe.

I am betting by safe they are talking a Stck On or a converted school locker. ;)

And then along comes the usual, I don't know why a gun like that is left unattended in a school. Well, it was in a safe!

But the unusual comment was from the Executive Director of the Safe Tennessee Project, a gun control group by any other name.

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Beth Joslin Roth of the Safe Tennessee Project said she also wonders why an officer would have an AR-15 at school, given how imprecisely they are designed to fire.

If they are such an imprecise gun why the big hullabaloo about getting rid of them. What is the next gun is precise?!?!?!

I noticed that in a lot of the later articles related to this the statement attributed to Beth has been omitted.

I just have to hope my AR pistol build will be able to hit the broad side of a barn given the design flaws.

bob
Title: Re: Teens Steal Imprecisely Designed Rifle
Post by: 230RN on August 12, 2019, 06:32:29 PM
"Beth Joslin Roth of the Safe Tennessee Project said she also wonders why an officer would have an AR-15 at school, given how imprecisely they are designed to fire."

Oh, right.  The thing that goes up on the shoulder messes up your aim.
Title: Re: Teens Steal Imprecisely Designed Rifle
Post by: BobR on August 12, 2019, 06:35:54 PM
"Beth Joslin Roth of the Safe Tennessee Project said she also wonders why an officer would have an AR-15 at school, given how imprecisely they are designed to fire."

She's obviously been reading my posts on the AR platform.

Now that I read it again, is she talking about the gun or the School Resource Officer? In some places they don't even fire, the SRO that is.

bob
Title: Re: Teens Steal Imprecisely Designed Rifle
Post by: just Warren on August 12, 2019, 07:11:01 PM
Isn't that the gun that tumbles when you shoot it?
Title: Re: Teens Steal Imprecisely Designed Rifle
Post by: just Warren on August 12, 2019, 07:20:36 PM
And in a story about the Feds charging an accomplice in the Dayton shooting our local anchor-lady said "Among other charges he is being charged with possessing an illegal upper receiver."

If you have both an upper receiver and a lower receiver can you shoot twice as fast?
Title: Re: Teens Steal Imprecisely Designed Rifle
Post by: Fly320s on August 12, 2019, 07:50:32 PM
If you have both an upper receiver and a lower receiver can you shoot twice as fast?

Only if it is illegal.
Title: Re: Teens Steal Imprecisely Designed Rifle
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on August 12, 2019, 08:55:22 PM
The funny thing is if she'd said that about the other evil assault rifle, the AK, she'd have actually been sort of correct...  :rofl:
Title: Re: Teens Steal Imprecisely Designed Rifle
Post by: MechAg94 on August 12, 2019, 08:57:32 PM
I was thinking about an AR or AK that was full auto only.  For me I would call that fun.
Title: Re: Teens Steal Imprecisely Designed Rifle
Post by: 230RN on August 12, 2019, 11:50:52 PM
And in a story about the Feds charging an accomplice in the Dayton shooting our local anchor-lady said "Among other charges he is being charged with possessing an illegal upper receiver."

If you have both an upper receiver and a lower receiver can you shoot twice as fast?

That business of calling the uppers "receivers" has always irked me.  Seems to this old coot well-experienced in the ways of anti-gunners and governments that this opens the door to requiring serialization of the uppers. With the attendant 4473 triggering. I don't know where or when it started, but I wish it would stop.  [tinfoil]

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: Teens Steal Imprecisely Designed Rifle
Post by: TommyGunn on August 12, 2019, 11:52:27 PM
 ???  "Imprecise? ? ?"   What, exactly is THAT?   I don't think I've ever heard any rifle called that, let alone a AR-15.  

Title: Re: Teens Steal Imprecisely Designed Rifle
Post by: just Warren on August 13, 2019, 12:04:01 AM
It might be that thing where they claim that because of the pistol grip the AR is meant to be fired from the hip. 
Title: Re: Teens Steal Imprecisely Designed Rifle
Post by: TommyGunn on August 13, 2019, 12:07:28 AM
It might be that thing where they claim that because of the pistol grip the AR is meant to be fired from the hip.  

I have fired my M-1 carbine like that.  Why is it the antis have this "thing" about pistol grips?  Is it some fetish ... or... obsession or  something? ? ?
Title: Re: Teens Steal Imprecisely Designed Rifle
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 13, 2019, 12:22:10 AM
I have fired my M-1 carbine like that.  Why is it the antis have this "thing" about pistol grips?  Is it some fetish ... or... obsession or  something? ? ?

Superficialities easily sold to an ignorant public. Plenty of people will like a gun better just because they think the assault rifle styling makes it more butch. Plenty are willing to have a moral panic for the same reason.
Title: Re: Teens Steal Imprecisely Designed Rifle
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 13, 2019, 12:40:07 AM
That business of calling the uppers "receivers" has always irked me.  Seems to this old coot well-experienced in the ways of anti-gunners and governments that this opens the door to requiring serialization of the uppers. With the attendant 4473 triggering. I don't know where or when it started, but I wish it would stop.  [tinfoil]


Actually, it has been argued that the design of the AR-15 is such that the upper is more of a receiver than the lower, and some have proposed that it's the upper that should carry the serial number rather than the lower.
Title: Re: Teens Steal Imprecisely Designed Rifle
Post by: HeroHog on August 13, 2019, 03:51:47 AM
Truth is, a non pistol grip rifle is more comfortable/easier to fire from the hip!
Title: Re: Teens Steal Imprecisely Designed Rifle
Post by: 230RN on August 13, 2019, 05:42:00 AM
Actually, it has been argued that the design of the AR-15 is such that the upper is more of a receiver than the lower, and some have proposed that it's the upper that should carry the serial number rather than the lower.

Obviously, those arguers are not "well-experienced in the ways of anti-gunners and governments" and should stop offering up more things for possible regulation.

There are  times we are our own worst enemies.

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: Teens Steal Imprecisely Designed Rifle
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 13, 2019, 10:58:15 AM
Obviously, those arguers are not "well-experienced in the ways of anti-gunners and governments" and should stop offering up more things for possible regulation.

There are  times we are our own worst enemies.

Terry, 230RN

We will finally be safe when everything we can (theoretically) buy is serial-numbered, and requires 12 forms of ID, the endorsement of the local Communist Party Chairman, and a 44-year waiting period.
Title: Re: Teens Steal Imprecisely Designed Rifle
Post by: RocketMan on August 13, 2019, 11:27:16 AM
We will finally be safe when everything we can (theoretically) buy is serial-numbered, and requires 12 forms of ID, the endorsement of the local Communist Party Chairman, and a 44-year waiting period.

And the only firearms the Second Amendment guarantees are single shot bolt action rim fire shotguns in 22 gauge without the shoulder thingy that goes up.
Title: Re: Teens Steal Imprecisely Designed Rifle
Post by: Ben on August 13, 2019, 12:03:05 PM
You guys forgot "biometrically tethered to the owner."
Title: Re: Teens Steal Imprecisely Designed Rifle
Post by: griz on August 13, 2019, 12:05:13 PM
Children can be cute when they don't know what they're talking about.  Adults should know to keep they're mouths shut in the same circumstances.
Title: Re: Teens Steal Imprecisely Designed Rifle
Post by: bedlamite on August 13, 2019, 12:20:05 PM
I think that's one of those guns that uses double barrel magazine extended clips (https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/double-barrel-magazine-extended-clips-former-lapd-sergeant-reveals-extreme-ignorance-on-guns-and-gun-laws/)
Title: Re: Teens Steal Imprecisely Designed Rifle
Post by: 230RN on August 15, 2019, 04:06:24 PM
And the only firearms the Second Amendment guarantees are single shot bolt action rim fire shotguns in 22 gauge without the shoulder thingy that goes up.

To save folks the trouble, "22 gauge" equates to 0.596" diameter.

We know you're poking fun at clueless lawmakers... who would confuse .22 caliber with 22 gauge but would still write firearms laws based on false conceptions.

"28 gauge," a popular bore, is 0.550"  And .410 bore is 67.62 gauge.

Just to save you the trouble of looking them up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauge_(firearms)#Calculating_gauge

Scroll down for the ready-to-read chart.
Title: Re: Teens Steal Imprecisely Designed Rifle
Post by: brimic on August 16, 2019, 01:26:24 PM
I have fired my M-1 carbine like that.  Why is it the antis have this "thing" about pistol grips?  Is it some fetish ... or... obsession or  something? ? ?

It looks phallic, something the left is obsessed with.