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Title: San Francisco board rebrands 'convicted felon' as 'justice-involved person'
Post by: MechAg94 on August 22, 2019, 02:24:13 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/san-francisco-board-adopts-new-language-for-criminals-turning-convicted-felon-into-justice-involved-person.amp?__twitter_impression=true
San Francisco board rebrands 'convicted felon' as 'justice-involved person,' sanitizes other crime lingo

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Crime-ridden San Francisco has introduced new sanitized language for criminals, getting rid of words such as “offender” and “addict” while changing “convicted felon” to “justice-involved person.”

The Board of Supervisors adopted the changes last month even as the city reels from one of the highest crime rates in the country and staggering inequality exemplified by pervasive homelessness alongside Silicon Valley wealth.

The local officials say the new language will help change people’s views about those who commit crimes.
I feel I have to mention how the same people seem to have no issue referring to gun owners as bigots and Trump supporters as racist, but want to soften their language for people who often actually deserve it.  

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“We don’t want people to be forever labeled for the worst things that they have done,” Supervisor Matt Haney told the newspaper. “We want them ultimately to become contributing citizens, and referring to them as felons is like a scarlet letter that they can never get away from.”
But taking away the stigma is never going to help.  They can only "get away" from it if they stop committing crimes and bury it in their past.  
Title: Re: San Francisco board rebrands 'convicted felon' as 'justice-involved person'
Post by: WLJ on August 22, 2019, 02:45:28 PM
Liberal ---> Reality challenged person
Title: Re: San Francisco board rebrands 'convicted felon' as 'justice-involved person'
Post by: 230RN on August 22, 2019, 02:50:04 PM
Wait.

Double-checked.

No, not Sacbee or Onion.

Jeeze.

Do they have a euphemism for "Board of Supervisors?"

Terry, 230RN

Title: Re: San Francisco board rebrands 'convicted felon' as 'justice-involved person'
Post by: griz on August 22, 2019, 02:59:57 PM
The report I heard on the radio said they would change "substance abuse" (which BTW was the sanitized term for drug user) to "substance use issues".  I forgot who said it a long time ago but the idea is you can never create a truly non-offensive term because eventually the meaning catches up to the euphemism.
Title: Re: San Francisco board rebrands 'convicted felon' as 'justice-involved person'
Post by: MillCreek on August 22, 2019, 03:09:02 PM
The report I heard on the radio said they would change "substance abuse" (which BTW was the sanitized term for drug user) to "substance use issues".  I forgot who said it a long time ago but the idea is you can never create a truly non-offensive term because eventually the meaning catches up to the euphemism.


The current term in healthcare is SUD: substance use disorder.
Title: Re: San Francisco board rebrands 'convicted felon' as 'justice-involved person'
Post by: Angel Eyes on August 22, 2019, 03:33:29 PM


Do they have a euphemism for "Board of Supervisors?"



Intelligence-challenged persons.
Title: Re: San Francisco board rebrands 'convicted felon' as 'justice-involved person'
Post by: MechAg94 on August 22, 2019, 04:32:28 PM
The report I heard on the radio said they would change "substance abuse" (which BTW was the sanitized term for drug user) to "substance use issues".  I forgot who said it a long time ago but the idea is you can never create a truly non-offensive term because eventually the meaning catches up to the euphemism.

Yep, you can see that will all sorts of topics.  Do gooders decide others are having their feelings hurt and then once they start the outrage bus, they don't want to stop.  Examples are "retarded people" or crippled people".  The new names don't really change behavior.
Title: Re: San Francisco board rebrands 'convicted felon' as 'justice-involved person'
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 22, 2019, 05:46:00 PM

Do they have a euphemism for "Board of Supervisors?"


"Panel comprised of reason-impaired persons"
Title: Re: San Francisco board rebrands 'convicted felon' as 'justice-involved person'
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 23, 2019, 01:34:47 AM
I'm pretty sure they meant to say "injustice-involved person."
Title: Re: San Francisco board rebrands 'convicted felon' as 'justice-involved person'
Post by: Pb on August 23, 2019, 10:06:10 AM
Looking after their supporters.
Title: Re: San Francisco board rebrands 'convicted felon' as 'justice-involved person'
Post by: just Warren on August 23, 2019, 05:17:13 PM
Angelic Individuals Who Were Turning Their Lives Around And Just Happened To Be Unlucky Enough To Get Caught.
Title: Re: San Francisco board rebrands 'convicted felon' as 'justice-involved person'
Post by: Andiron on August 23, 2019, 06:03:57 PM
It's time to resurrect Sherman and point him at the west coast.
Title: Re: San Francisco board rebrands 'convicted felon' as 'justice-involved person'
Post by: 230RN on August 24, 2019, 05:56:21 AM
It's time to resurrect Sherman and point him at the west coast.

Patton would be my preference.

On the sea side, Rear Admiral Robert W. Copeland

Air arm:  Claire Chennault.

All ballsey commanders.

Terry

Re the lesser-known Admiral Copeland, Commander of the destroyer USS Samuel B. Roberts:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_W._Copeland#Further_information
Title: Re: San Francisco board rebrands 'convicted felon' as 'justice-involved person'
Post by: Andiron on August 24, 2019, 07:08:20 PM
Ballsy is great,  but I'm picking my roster for their talent in the scorched earth department.

I stand by Sherman.

Chair force component: LeMay all day.

Naval component:  ? ,  do we have a guy historically that's good at leveling cities from the sea?  Gambier got it done for the Brits,  but I can't think of one for us.
Title: Re: San Francisco board rebrands 'convicted felon' as 'justice-involved person'
Post by: 230RN on August 25, 2019, 06:32:34 AM
Nah.  I'm looking at actual clever combat aggression.  Folks who rescued Bastogne with audacious strategy and charged battleships with destroyers and figured out the wingman system against the Japanese pilots in China.

I suppose burning a city down is "aggressive," but wasn't the war just about over anyhow?  I think it ended only about three months later.

Besides, some folks think Sherman's troops just kind of ran amuck in undisciplined rage.

And there are three fronts in any coastal city battle:  the Sea, the Air, and the Ground.  (Nowadays, we should count four fronts:  The Space Above.)

Terry

Note:
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/patton-relieves-bastogne
I think in Sicily, he was just being a jerk, but what a magnificent jerk.
Title: Re: San Francisco board rebrands 'convicted felon' as 'justice-involved person'
Post by: Angel Eyes on August 29, 2019, 12:49:52 PM
(https://i.redd.it/af5b40jyxyi31.jpg)