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Title: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: brimic on January 08, 2020, 06:48:25 PM
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1214991222009409536?s=20
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: RocketMan on January 08, 2020, 07:02:48 PM
Don't Democrat pedos get a pass, or has that changed?
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: Ben on January 08, 2020, 07:04:07 PM
I don't know if it really happened to him, or he got caught doing something, or whatever.  

I dislike the guy very much. That said, if someone actually was trying to set him up with something like child porn, they should immediately be put against a wall and shot. That's the kind of thing that would absolutely ruin an innocent person's life forever.
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: Angel Eyes on January 08, 2020, 07:18:53 PM

"Paul Krugman did not kill himself."
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: AJ Dual on January 08, 2020, 08:06:10 PM
"Paul Krugman did not kill himself."


 :lol:
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: HeroHog on January 08, 2020, 08:18:45 PM
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fherohog.com%2Fimages%2FHumor%2FNotHowThisWorks.jpg&hash=e1db76ba394a73e8bb029b45dc504a9c35a9a2e0)
 :old:
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: lee n. field on January 08, 2020, 09:38:47 PM
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1214991222009409536?s=20

Much win in the comment thread.

And, as I posted on the book of faces somewhere:

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"my computer security company" -- Uhh huh. What do you bet, he had a scareware popup, called the number, paid them the $500 they wanted (in Itunes gift cards), and let them in to his computer.

"Our betters are soo smart."
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: lee n. field on January 08, 2020, 09:48:51 PM
Aaand, it's gone.

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Sorry, that page doesn’t exist!
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 08, 2020, 11:54:34 PM
So what was it?
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: lee n. field on January 09, 2020, 08:08:38 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-york-times-paul-krugman-hacker-child-pornography (https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-york-times-paul-krugman-hacker-child-pornography)

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"Well, I’m on the phone with my computer security service, and as I understand it someone compromised my IP address and is using it to download child pornography," Krugman wrote in a now-deleted tweet. "I might just be a random target. But this could be an attempt to Qanon me. It’s an ugly world out there."

The way it was phrased I thought was odd.  If it was a NYT computer, it would be NYT IT guys he would be talking to, not "my computer security service".  It made me think he fell for a popup scam on his own computer.
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: K Frame on January 09, 2020, 08:14:42 AM
Wow...

Third degree snarky level burn on this comment...

"The biggest tell that you’re lying is that no one would be motivated to debase you more than you already have," film producer Adam Trahan wrote.
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: brimic on January 09, 2020, 08:15:16 AM
https://www.thenewscommenter.com/news/paul-krugman-denies-responsibility-for-child-pornography-located-on-his-computer/1255924
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: Ben on January 09, 2020, 08:17:29 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-york-times-paul-krugman-hacker-child-pornography (https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-york-times-paul-krugman-hacker-child-pornography)

The way it was phrased I thought was odd.  If it was a NYT computer, it would be NYT IT guys he would be talking to, not "my computer security service".  It made me think he fell for a popup scam on his own computer.

I should clarify that  I believe he's a moron or fell for a scam... or worse. However my original comment still holds - if somebody tries to frame somebody else for child porn, no matter how much I may despise the framee, the framer should still be shot.
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: brimic on January 09, 2020, 08:22:33 AM
I should clarify that  I believe he's a moron or fell for a scam... or worse. However my original comment still holds - if somebody tries to frame somebody else for child porn, no matter how much I may despise the framee, the framer should still be shot.

I'm with you.

Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: K Frame on January 09, 2020, 08:33:59 AM
" the framer should still be shot."

Nah. Send him to prison.

With a child predator tag.

And put him in general population.
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: MechAg94 on January 09, 2020, 08:59:10 AM
I should clarify that  I believe he's a moron or fell for a scam... or worse. However my original comment still holds - if somebody tries to frame somebody else for child porn, no matter how much I may despise the framee, the framer should still be shot.

I recall hearing an interview once with someone who was under investigation (during Clinton admin I think).  They said they had an independent computer security person check out their computer.  Apparently in addition to trackers/loggers, someone had placed a file in a system subfolder that was not a place you would normally use to store random stuff.  I think it was either classified info or pornography that could get them in hot water if they got raided and feds seized their computer.
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: Pb on January 09, 2020, 11:07:27 AM
I wish Mr. Krugman the best of luck in catching the real perps! :police:
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 09, 2020, 11:21:57 AM
Quote from: Bette Middler
MALICIOUS CONTENT IS COMING YOUR WAY; BE CAREFUL. MUCH OF WHAT WINDS UP ON YOUR COMPUTER WILL BE GENERATED BY RUSSIANS, CHINESE, KAZAKS, SAUDIS; BOTS GOING 24/7 TO CONFUSE AND FRIGHTEN YOU. IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA NOT TO LOOK AT ANY OF IT. TAKE ALL WITH A #GRAINOFSALT.

I think we should always rely on computer advice from Bette Middler. Especially when it's all in caps to emphasize its importance.
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: brimic on January 09, 2020, 11:52:12 AM
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Quote from: Bette Middler
MALICIOUS CONTENT IS COMING YOUR WAY; BE CAREFUL. MUCH OF WHAT WINDS UP ON YOUR COMPUTER WILL BE GENERATED BY RUSSIANS, CHINESE, KAZAKS, SAUDIS; BOTS GOING 24/7 TO CONFUSE AND FRIGHTEN YOU. IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA NOT TO LOOK AT ANY OF IT. TAKE ALL WITH A #GRAINOFSALT.

Those dastardly rushin kolluders are at it again with their dEeP fAkEs

Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: HankB on January 09, 2020, 12:05:54 PM
I wish Mr. Krugman the best of luck in catching the real perps! :police:

So do I!
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic3.businessinsider.com%2Fimage%2F56b3bb9f6e97c660008b4ff9-480%2Foj-simpson.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: lee n. field on January 09, 2020, 01:48:11 PM
Paul Krugman’s no good, very bad Internet day (https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/01/paul-krugmans-no-good-very-bad-internet-day/?fbclid=IwAR0Zf8DQyiCT-sgJvsgob_VT9IZDCspBHNR9WGSgYU8q1E-pi_SbC4cJ8aM)
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: K Frame on January 09, 2020, 01:57:04 PM
So do I!
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic3.businessinsider.com%2Fimage%2F56b3bb9f6e97c660008b4ff9-480%2Foj-simpson.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)


 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: French G. on January 09, 2020, 09:06:46 PM
https://www.thenewscommenter.com/news/paul-krugman-denies-responsibility-for-child-pornography-located-on-his-computer/1255924

The high tech version of the ever popular "these aren't my pants" defense.
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: MillCreek on January 10, 2020, 09:00:05 AM
I apologize if this is a stupid question, but would it be possible for a government organization to put compromising material on your computer remotely?  I recall an episode of 'Sherlock' in which Mark Gatiss threatened some people with uploading material to their computers that would put them away for 20 years.
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: MechAg94 on January 10, 2020, 09:05:14 AM
I apologize if this is a stupid question, but would it be possible for a government organization to put compromising material on your computer remotely?  I recall an episode of 'Sherlock' in which Mark Gatiss threatened some people with uploading material to their computers that would put them away for 20 years.
I imagine it would be pretty easy since most people don't have serious security, but I am not much of an expert.
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: Ben on January 10, 2020, 09:10:26 AM
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but would it be possible for a government organization to put compromising material on your computer remotely?


Without 100% use of a virtual machine, I think it would be relatively easy for them to do it if you rate high enough, or piss them off enough, for them to bother.

Even if you have both good hardware security and good user protocol, it could be relatively easy. Using me as an example, I might receive an official (really official, not spoofed) email from the OPM retirement division telling me to click on the link to log into my retirement account (e.g., "click here to log into your monthly statement") and the next thing you know, I have incriminating crap on my computer courtesy of the NSA.
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: cordex on January 10, 2020, 09:14:23 AM
I apologize if this is a stupid question, but would it be possible for a government organization to put compromising material on your computer remotely?  I recall an episode of 'Sherlock' in which Mark Gatiss threatened some people with uploading material to their computers that would put them away for 20 years.
Depends on a lot of things, but for some groups with the kind of zero day exploits that we know they have used previously I would say absolutely.  Or if not remotely they could break into most of our homes pretty easily and insert it that way.

But why bother?  If the government is compromised at that level and willing to plant evidence then the easiest thing to do would be to get a search warrant on some false pretext and have a crooked tech "find" it.  For that matter, they wouldn't be limited to planting electronic evidence.
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: brimic on January 10, 2020, 10:17:19 AM

Without 100% use of a virtual machine, I think it would be relatively easy for them to do it if you rate high enough, or piss them off enough, for them to bother.

Even if you have both good hardware security and good user protocol, it could be relatively easy. Using me as an example, I might receive an official (really official, not spoofed) email from the OPM retirement division telling me to click on the link to log into my retirement account (e.g., "click here to log into your monthly statement") and the next thing you know, I have incriminating crap on my computer courtesy of the NSA.

Our corporate IT tests us constantly on this sort of thing. They send very convincing social engineering emails asking you to click on something or asking for information. We are the point where we look at every little detail of the email's origin before opening it or default to hitting the  'report phish' button. Out of a few dozen of these in the last year or so, I got tripped up once- to be fair, I hadn't drank my coffee yet.
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: MechAg94 on January 10, 2020, 10:57:24 AM
Our corporate IT tests us constantly on this sort of thing. They send very convincing social engineering emails asking you to click on something or asking for information. We are the point where we look at every little detail of the email's origin before opening it or default to hitting the  'report phish' button. Out of a few dozen of these in the last year or so, I got tripped up once- to be fair, I hadn't drank my coffee yet.
We get those occasionally.  It can be confusing when the anti-spam filter puts a message at the top saying "This email was sent to you at the request of your IT department." 
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: K Frame on January 10, 2020, 01:35:37 PM
Back 2000 or so the project I worked on had a stand-alone e-mail system outside of the corporate system.

One of the freaking engineers, a guy who should have known better, got an e-mail from a "friend" with pictures of Anna Kournikova (the unbelievably hawt tennis player).

Except the pictures had a dot and three extra letters after the dot and g i f...

Those letters were... v b s. Anyone with a little experience knows that those are executable files -- visual basic script.

Walter was HIGHLY experienced. And he still clicked the file. And dropped our in house computer system for nearly a week.

Talked to one of the admins, and he said that when the virus got loose it immediately propagated to the e-mail list and started sending out multiple messages to everyone in the address book. A couple of other people also clicked the file, and it snowballed to the point where, at its worst, the various iterations were trying to send something like 1.7 million e-mails every second...
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: lee n. field on January 10, 2020, 02:44:50 PM
I apologize if this is a stupid question, but would it be possible for a government organization to put compromising material on your computer remotely?

Probably.

Depends what state-actor backdoors are in place, or other dirty tricks.   Most people aren't paranoid enough.

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  I recall an episode of 'Sherlock' in which Mark Gatiss threatened some people with uploading material to their computers that would put them away for 20 years.
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: dogmush on January 11, 2020, 02:16:58 AM
Back 2000 or so the project I worked on had a stand-alone e-mail system outside of the corporate system.

One of the freaking engineers, a guy who should have known better, got an e-mail from a "friend" with pictures of Anna Kournikova (the unbelievably hawt tennis player).

Except the pictures had a dot and three extra letters after the dot and g i f...

Those letters were... v b s. Anyone with a little experience knows that those are executable files -- visual basic script.

Walter was HIGHLY experienced. And he still clicked the file. And dropped our in house computer system for nearly a week.

Talked to one of the admins, and he said that when the virus got loose it immediately propagated to the e-mail list and started sending out multiple messages to everyone in the address book. A couple of other people also clicked the file, and it snowballed to the point where, at its worst, the various iterations were trying to send something like 1.7 million e-mails every second...

The power of boobs has laid many an otherwise intelligent man low.
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: MillCreek on January 11, 2020, 08:24:35 AM
The power of boobs has laid many an otherwise intelligent man low.

Quoted for classic remarks.
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 12, 2020, 05:40:02 PM
I don't know if it really happened to him, or he got caught doing something, or whatever.  

I dislike the guy very much. That said, if someone actually was trying to set him up with something like child porn, they should immediately be put against a wall and shot. That's the kind of thing that would absolutely ruin an innocent person's life forever.

Well, it's not execution, but...
https://www.dailywire.com/news/police-officer-jailed-for-three-years-after-falsely-accusing-neighbor-of-sexually-assaulting-a-child-following-hedge-trimming-dispute
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: gunsmith on January 13, 2020, 12:03:56 AM
   Anna Kournikova, omg , I love her
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 13, 2020, 02:03:38 PM
I don't know who Krugman is. But, the fastest way to eliminate your victims support base is to accuse them of sex crimes against a child. And how hard would it be in the case of the average computer user to surreptitiously install incriminating materials onto their computer?
While i believe actual child predators are fully deserving of a quick but painful death it's just far to easy to set some one up. And far too often all it takes is one malicious lie to destroy a person's life with little to no risk of repercussion even if the lie is found out. The damage has already been done.
In the case of the story Fisful linked to 3 years is no where near enough.
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: brimic on January 13, 2020, 02:19:17 PM
I don't know who Krugman is.

He's a smarmy little progressive A-hole who writes for the NYT and who has never been right about anything related to economics, but won a nobel prize in economics.
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: Angel Eyes on January 13, 2020, 05:28:05 PM
He's a smarmy little progressive A-hole who writes for the NYT and who has never been right about anything related to economics, but won a nobel prize in economics.

... like Obama and his Peace Prize?
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: K Frame on January 14, 2020, 07:22:37 AM
... like Obama and his Peace Prize?



like Obama and his Peace Prize Participation Trophy?


Fixed if for you.
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 14, 2020, 08:52:26 AM
He's a smarmy little progressive A-hole who writes for the NYT and who has never been right about anything related to economics, but won a nobel prize in economics.

Didn't he say the market would never recover from Orangemanbad?
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: Ben on January 14, 2020, 08:54:22 AM
Didn't he say the market would never recover from Orangemanbad?

Yes. We're supposed to be in an economic apocalypse right now with like a 5000 Dow.
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: K Frame on January 14, 2020, 10:27:42 AM
Yes. We're supposed to be in an economic apocalypse right now with like a 5000 Dow.

We ARE in an economic apocalypse, you white privilege bastard! You're just not woke enough to realize it!

 :facepalm: :rofl:
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 14, 2020, 01:39:56 PM
We ARE in an economic apocalypse, you white privilege bastard! You're just not woke enough to realize it!

 :facepalm: :rofl:

Of course. As a condition of my white privilege, big stacks of money are brought to me on a daily basis. My butler is getting tired of carrying it around and counting it up.
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: K Frame on January 15, 2020, 07:48:05 AM
Is he a butler of a minority extraction?
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: MillCreek on January 15, 2020, 10:23:13 AM
Is he a butler of a minority extraction?

I am putting in my request to have Michael Caine (Alfred) assigned as my butler.
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 15, 2020, 10:58:12 AM
Is he a butler of a minority extraction?

Like white people would ever be butlers. We're too busy gentrifying, and colluding with Russia.
Title: Re: LOL mr Krugman, that’s not how the interwebz work
Post by: K Frame on January 15, 2020, 12:47:32 PM
Like white people would ever be butlers. We're too busy gentrifying, and colluding with Russia.

Fair point, yeah fair point...