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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: MillCreek on June 26, 2020, 04:41:58 PM
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https://www.ballisticmag.com/2020/06/26/highest-selling-guns-2020-nssf/?fbclid=IwAR3SS2wqzf-NziJF_8ys707ETpDUK9BqME2fpcGRqoYObOXlryXUAuJQDlg
Surprising that the Colt Python is so popular and at least one Ruger model is on each list.
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I'm assuming they have them ordered correctly despite not having them numbered. I wonder if the Python is at all related to The Walking Dead, COVID, and riots?
I'm surprised at some of the auto pistols, or moreso that stuff like the Sig P226 is not listed.
Also I see they left off shotguns. A Benelli M4 is on my "want" list and you can't find them anywhere right now. I would think 870s are doing brisk business as well for first time gun owners. Especially the liberals who go to Joe Biden for advice. :laugh:
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Lists are pretty similar.
Revolvers. Same list, except <50 goes with a Taurus 856, >50 with Ruger Sp101.
Rifles, Same list, but <50, a Diamondback something, >50 Bushmaster.
For revolvers and rifles, over 50 goes with stuff that's a tiny bit bit more expensive.
Autos, a few more differences, that I'm not sure how to interpret.
Is age 50 a good dividing line for this?
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Lists are pretty similar.
Revolvers. Same list, except <50 goes with a Taurus 856, >50 with Ruger Sp101.
Rifles, Same list, but <50, a Diamondback something, >50 Bushmaster.
For revolvers and rifles, over 50 goes with stuff that's a tiny bit bit more expensive.
Autos, a few more differences, that I'm not sure how to interpret.
Is age 50 a good dividing line for this?
Semi Auto's:
The Hellcat is the newest thing out. Appeal of single stack small handgun for newbs, the one thing collectors wouldn't have. Not surprising for both lists. Same goes with the Sig micro, newer single stack.
G19, M&P, P320, Sig p320, and Beretta 92 are all the newb guns. Lot's of new gun owners in the over 50 crowd from the rush.
Younger for Glocks in general. Cheaper, collected more by younger crowd in variants.
Same with XDs, thus the XD(M)
Old people still think Kimber is a thing.
KelTec and Ruger pushed for arthritic hands.
And no, I don't think 50 is a really good line for that. I'd bet you'd actually see trends if you cut it up more.
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Anyone here have a G29? I've been bouncing back and forth between that and a G23. 23 will be cheaper to shoot; but I'd like something 10mm on the smaller side. I probably still have a couple weeks until my new purchase permits come through.
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Anyone here have a G29? I've been bouncing back and forth between that and a G23. 23 will be cheaper to shoot; but I'd like something 10mm on the smaller side. I probably still have a couple weeks until my new purchase permits come through.
*Waves*
Dad carried it a lot. It was what he was CCing when he died, actually.
I like it. I've shot it the most of the 10mm's and I think it's nifty. (Note: Also have the 20 and the long slide in 10mm)
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Especially the liberals who go to Joe Biden for advice. :laugh:
Special combo deal for limbs: shotgun and thin front door.
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Let's see, only one 1911 on those lists, and a stainless abomination at that. Yup, AOC's America. Durn Commies...
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Well, I guess that explains why I've not been able to find a Kel-Tec Sub2000 anywhere...
Have a line on one, I just want to get a couple more pay checks under my belt before I spring for it.
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I was interested to see the military Beretta pistols on the list. I had no idea they were still that popular.
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The only gun I have that's on any of those lists is my Blackhawk, and I was surprised to see it there.
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The only gun I have that's on any of those lists is my Blackhawk, and I was surprised to see it there.
For me it's the Blackhawk, 10/22, and M&P15. None of my defensive pistols are listed there.
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I have a Ruger GP-100, Ruger SP-101, Ruger Blackhawk and Ruger 10/22. I am suddenly detecting a theme.
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*Waves*
Dad carried it a lot. It was what he was CCing when he died, actually.
I like it. I've shot it the most of the 10mm's and I think it's nifty. (Note: Also have the 20 and the long slide in 10mm)
Finally, an endorsement I can believe. G29 it is. Do you have a grip extender on it, and do extenders usually feel solid? The only concern I have is that the grip might be a little short for my hand. I haven't found one locally to check out.
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The only gun I have that's on any of those lists is my Blackhawk, and I was surprised to see it there.
G19 and S&W 642, & a 10/22. Pretty standard stuff.
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Finally, an endorsement I can believe. G29 it is. Do you have a grip extender on it, and do extenders usually feel solid? The only concern I have is that the grip might be a little short for my hand. I haven't found one locally to check out.
https://www.handgunhero.com/compare/glock-g29-gen4-vs-glock-g26 (https://www.handgunhero.com/compare/glock-g29-gen4-vs-glock-g26)
Looks like it's "a hair" taller in the grip than the G26. Probably too short for me. YMMV.
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Finally, an endorsement I can believe. G29 it is. Do you have a grip extender on it, and do extenders usually feel solid? The only concern I have is that the grip might be a little short for my hand. I haven't found one locally to check out.
I had one, but it did not survive my layoff in 2013. I liked it well enough but I didn't find it impressive enough to replace it after my finances stabilized. I did find the pinkie extensions to be indispensable.
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Anyone here have a G29? I've been bouncing back and forth between that and a G23. 23 will be cheaper to shoot; but I'd like something 10mm on the smaller side. I probably still have a couple weeks until my new purchase permits come through.
Have a 29 & a 20
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Finally, an endorsement I can believe. G29 it is. Do you have a grip extender on it, and do extenders usually feel solid? The only concern I have is that the grip might be a little short for my hand. I haven't found one locally to check out.
No grip extender's. Neither Dad or I have ever needed such things. ;)
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I have this on two of the 10 rounders. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1006080934?pid=504003
Hotter loads (Underwood, Buffalo Bore) can be a bit much without them
The third mag stayed stock for extra concealability.
The 15 rounders for the G20 can be used as backup.
Speaking of loads be aware that many, actually quite a few, 10mm loads are actually loaded to 40sw levels. Might as well bought a 40SW with those.
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^^^I learn something every day, and I did not know that about 10 mm being loaded to .40S&W levels.
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Speaking of loads be aware that many, actually quite a few, 10mm loads are actually loaded to 40sw levels. Might as well bought a 40SW with those.
That's the level I load 10mms to for the range. Makes for a pleasant day with the heavy Delta Elite. :)
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^^^I learn something every day, and I did not know that about 10 mm being loaded to .40S&W levels.
Got to pay attention to what you're buying
40SW & low end 10mm loads: 400-500 ft/lbs
Full 10mm: ~600
Hot/heavy/Nuclear: 10mm ~700+
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^^^I learn something every day, and I did not know that about 10 mm being loaded to .40S&W levels.
I see you've never read a single article about either the 10mm or the .40 S&W. I think gun writers are contractually obligated to mention it.
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I see you've never read a single article about either the 10mm or the .40 S&W. I think gun writers are contractually obligated to mention it.
You are probably right. I have not owned either caliber, so they have not been on my radar.
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40S&W is in fact a 10mm short or kurz if you will. When the FBI found that many people didn't like or couldn't handle the recoil of full 10mm loads they developed a reduced load version of it. S&W then got the idea to cut down a 10mm case to match the reduced loading thus 40S&W was born.
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^^^I learn something every day, and I did not know that about 10mm being loaded to .40S&W levels.
Felt ripped off at a range in Henderson when after I rented a 10mm Witness and going through a box of 50 rounds that I thought were very soft shooting for what I had heard 10mm to be like so I looked at the box and the FPS were in the .40 range. But yet I was charged for 10mm.
At another range in San Juan Capistrano I tried again and got full-house loads and that was quite the experience. My wife said it was the biggest muzzle-blast of any handgun she'd ever seen me shoot. Fun, but more oomph than I really needed.
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I have Sig V-Crown 180gr in my carry gun. At 624 ft/lbs they IMHO strike a good balance between power and controllability . Do have some Underwood (700+) though =D
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Felt ripped off at a range in Henderson when after I rented a 10mm Witness and going through a box of 50 rounds that I thought were very soft shooting for what I had heard 10mm to be like so I looked at the box and the FPS were in the .40 range. But yet I was charged for 10mm.
At another range in San Juan Capistrano I tried again and got full-house loads and that was quite the experience. My wife said it was the biggest muzzle-blast of any handgun she'd ever seen me shoot. Fun, but more oomph than I really needed.
When I first started shopping for 10mm ammo I kept looking at the specs of various brands and kept thinking that can't right on a bunch of them.. Part that upset me the most is that some very well known brands are doing it so it's not a off brand thing. If I wanted a 40 I would have bought a 40. A lot of people buy ammo based on brand name without examining the numbers closely.
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A 1911 in 10 mm is on my bucket list, but I want one of the better pistols so we will see what I can afford when I get around to it. I think that would handle the heavy loads as good as anything.
So much stuff I want is out of stock right now.
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I'd have to look it up, but I load 10mm with 180gr XTP bullets on 14.something grains of AA#9, and it's about 1300 fps out of my Glock 20. Yes, that's over the official book max. I never should have sold my 1076.
For 40 s&w, I still use 11gr of Longshot under 135 Noslers and 9gr of Longshot under 155 XTP
https://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68915
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I'd have to look it up, but I load 10mm with 180gr XTP bullets on 14.something grains of AA#9, and it's about 1300 fps out of my Glock 20. Yes, that's over the official book max.
Works out to 676 ft.lbs
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Felt ripped off at a range in Henderson when after I rented a 10mm Witness and going through a box of 50 rounds that I thought were very soft shooting for what I had heard 10mm to be like so I looked at the box and the FPS were in the .40 range. But yet I was charged for 10mm.
At another range in San Juan Capistrano I tried again and got full-house loads and that was quite the experience. My wife said it was the biggest muzzle-blast of any handgun she'd ever seen me shoot. Fun, but more oomph than I really needed.
I also had the 'What's the fuss?' moment.
I yelled at Dad and he brought out the hot stuff.
Told him "That's more like it." :)