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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: MechAg94 on July 15, 2020, 09:10:20 AM
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man with knife EATS 9 BULLETS before stopping - Eaton police shooting breakdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDA7y63N8r4
I didn't post this for the commentary, but I thought the video was pretty good showing the knife wielding guy attacking the officer. I can't tell how many times the officer hit him, but it took a few shots and a few seconds for the shots to take an effect. The officer let him get pretty close.
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Clean malf drill as well.
Nice job.
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Wow. She handled herself well, especially with the jam, and perhaps moreso with the close-in engagement.
The peanut gallery comments are a little infuriating. I guess I'm speaking from the peanut gallery myself, but I would almost rather get shot than get stabbed or slashed, based on images and video I have seen of the latter. I would not want to trust my life with a taser in something like this example.
I could envision a situation where if there were two or more officers, one deploys the taser, and if there is no effect, the other is already on target and starts pulling the trigger. Just one on one though? The gun was the right call here.
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Clean malf drill as well.
Nice job.
Saw that, good job on clearing it on her part. Guess the malfunction was caused by him grabbing the gun*, something to consider practicing for.
*Hold on. At first I though he caused the malfunction but going frame by frame I think the gun jammed even before he touched it.
Any word on word on ammo used? It's a narrow frame Glock so either 9mm or 40S&W.
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Yep, on closer inspection I'm convinced he didn't cause the malfunction
At 0.3:27 the slide appears to be locked back and was still locked back when he reached for it. You may not catch it unless you view it frame by frame.
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Wow. She handled herself well, especially with the jam, and perhaps moreso with the close-in engagement.
The peanut gallery comments are a little infuriating. I guess I'm speaking from the peanut gallery myself, but I would almost rather get shot than get stabbed or slashed, based on images and video I have seen of the latter. I would not want to trust my life with a taser in something like this example.
I could envision a situation where if there were two or more officers, one deploys the taser, and if there is no effect, the other is already on target and starts pulling the trigger. Just one on one though? The gun was the right call here.
Wow. The stupidity almost makes you wish we could uninvent less-lethal tech. At least then we'd only have to deal with shoot-em-in-the-leg idiocy.
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Ferfal covers this one as well as another knife encounter that didn't turn out as good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbgklVbx9xY
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I heard some commentary that suggested she may have drawn her gun poorly in panic and fired the first few shots with a poor grip, missed the shots, limp wristed the gun causing a malfunction, then got it together after the malfunction drill and plugged the guy.
IMO, I can't tell that from the video, but it is something to keep in mind. Also why we should do draw practice.
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limp wristed the gun causing a malfunction
And carry revolvers.
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And carry revolvers.
Do we have confirmation on how many shots connected? The one article seems to indicate nine. Not that we should expect a cop or you or me to connect with every shot. Or maybe we should expect it but *expletive deleted*it happens and I'd hate to be three shots short in a situation like that.
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Do we have confirmation on how many shots connected? The one article seems to indicate nine. Not that we should expect a cop or you or me to connect with every shot. Or maybe we should expect it but *expletive deleted*it happens and I'd hate to be three shots short in a situation like that.
https://youtu.be/PE9RDQw9ZL0?t=44
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Do we have confirmation on how many shots connected? The one article seems to indicate nine. Not that we should expect a cop or you or me to connect with every shot. Or maybe we should expect it but *expletive deleted*it happens and I'd hate to be three shots short in a situation like that.
I think all shots hit him, i read it somewhere today.
Connect with every shot?
I am great on the range, the one time i shot in an emergency I missed 12 times.
I scared the coyote fortunately :rofl:
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I think all shots hit him, i read it somewhere today.
Connect with every shot?
I am great on the range, the one time i shot in an emergency I missed 12 times.
I scared the coyote fortunately :rofl:
You drop anvils on coyotes
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man with knife EATS 9 BULLETS before stopping - Eaton police shooting breakdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDA7y63N8r4
I didn't post this for the commentary, but I thought the video was pretty good showing the knife wielding guy attacking the officer. I can't tell how many times the officer hit him, but it took a few shots and a few seconds for the shots to take an effect. The officer let him get pretty close.
Does anyone know how I can edit a grab of this video to eliminate the extranea and just retain the actual footage of the shooting? I think it will be useful for teaching CCW classes.
I tried Moviemaker, but it's not a file format that Moviemaker recognizes.
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Does anyone know how I can edit a grab of this video to eliminate the extranea and just retain the actual footage of the shooting? I think it will be useful for teaching CCW classes.
I tried Moviemaker, but it's not a file format that Moviemaker recognizes.
The video download utility that comes with Avast browser saves the video to .mp4 format, which Moviemaker recognizes.
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The video download utility that comes with Avast browser saves the video to .mp4 format, which Moviemaker recognizes.
Or just paste the link into here: https://youtube-video.download/ and download the mp4.
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Firefox has multiple youtube download plugins. They won't always download at the original resolution.
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On the tangent, good reminder for me to download a bunch of youtube videos. I have an online "reference" folder in my youtube account that has a bunch of how-to videos, some that were hard to find (like maintenance videos for my tractor) and you never know when someone is going to delete their youtube account and that info disappears.
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Angeleys, cordex, MechAg94 -- thanks, but I know how to download the video. To make it useful in a training situation, I want ot edit out the Donut Operator editorial comments and save just the portions that depict the actual incident. It downloads in a format I don't have any programs to handle.
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What format is it in?
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What format is it in?
The file extension is .ve
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Does anyone know how I can edit a grab of this video to eliminate the extranea and just retain the actual footage of the shooting? I think it will be useful for teaching CCW classes.
I tried Moviemaker, but it's not a file format that Moviemaker recognizes.
Take the original link and change the "youtube" part to "youtubepp" It gives you a variety of formats to download. (most of them mp4 with different resolutions)
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Donut Operator is a youtube rabbit hole. Good stuff.
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great video analysis, you need to see this one!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx2ZVl49YWI
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great video analysis, you need to see this one!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx2ZVl49YWI
"He took the asphalt temperature challenge ..."
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It still blows my mind that this guy somehow thought that being a jackass would go over with no repercussions. I've seen nothing about him being on drugs, but you'd about have to be to act that way. Though with BLM, between people beating on cops and cops told not to fight back, maybe he actually thought he could get away with this and she'd be afraid to shoot.
This video was a good analysis on the jam. At the point she started shooting, she wasn't a cop - she was a person defending her life.
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LAPD Officer Who Shot and Killed a Suspect is Under Scrutiny Because She’s Also a Competitive Shooter
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/lapd-officer-who-shot-and-killed-a-suspect-under-scrutiny-because-shes-also-a-competitive-shooter/?utm_source=wideopen&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=wideopen&utm_content=%5B%5Brssitem_title%5D%5D
Similar incident except she didn't let the guy get so close. Video at the top of the page.
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It used to be common for half or more of the pistol shooters doing local competition to be LE.
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... and the dead perp's family is suing:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/lapd-top-shot-officer-sued-shooting-man-box-cutter
I'm a little annoyed that Fox News is calling the dead guy "the victim."
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I went to the range once, guess I'm screwed
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It's always hard to judge distance in these videos but the suspect seems to be approaching within 21 feet when the officer made the decision to fire.
I've seen lots (maybe too many) body cam videos and I can't imagine officers have a very high opinion of the efficacy of a taser. It's frustrating to hear people ask "why didn't they just tase him" when the device has such a high failure rate. It's one thing to fire 2-3 rounds of live ammo, stay in high ready, and evaluate the need for follow up shots. It's quite another to deploy a taser, wait to see if it worked, then transition to lethal force if it didn't.
The detractors and plaintiffs seem to think that cops minds work faster than other humans. In this case, if officer #2 had deployed a taser, and it didn't connect, the suspect could have carved up officer #1 like a Thanksgiving turkey.
Also, I have rarely seen such excellent communication between the officers and over the radio. Very professional.
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The detractors and plaintiffs seem to think that cops minds work faster than other humans. In this case, if officer #2 had deployed a taser, and it didn't connect, the suspect could have carved up officer #1 like a Thanksgiving turkey.
That touches on something I mentioned earlier, but have no expertise on. I wonder if any departments train with non-lethal force with lethal backup? That is, if you have two or more officers, if the situation allows (like a lone, belligerent individual), one deploys the taser, but if the suspect doesn't immediately drop, the other officer(s) are positioned in such a way that they are safe and are ready to immediately use lethal force to stop the threat.
Maybe things in real life happen too quickly for that to be a viable method. Just wondering.
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That touches on something I mentioned earlier, but have no expertise on. I wonder if any departments train with non-lethal force with lethal backup? That is, if you have two or more officers, if the situation allows (like a lone, belligerent individual), one deploys the taser, but if the suspect doesn't immediately drop, the other officer(s) are positioned in such a way that they are safe and are ready to immediately use lethal force to stop the threat.
Maybe things in real life happen too quickly for that to be a viable method. Just wondering.
Yep, that is how most departments train.