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Title: Trump's (Pelosi's) Nazi Symbol
Post by: Ben on July 15, 2020, 06:49:59 PM
This isn't the first time this has come up, but USA Today decided to do a "fact check" and checked "true" that Trump is using a Nazi eagle on his campaign items. The same eagle the Speaker of the House uses, by the way.

These people are insufferable. And every day journalists are 'outraged" that they are under attack. Jackwagons.

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/07/15/this-is-an-embarrassment-usa-today-cant-bring-itself-to-fully-admit-their-fact-check-on-trump-campaign-t-shirt-featuring-nazi-symbol-is-a-load-of-bs/
Title: Re: Trump's (Pelosi's) Nazi Symbol
Post by: Hawkmoon on July 15, 2020, 11:20:32 PM
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    "to reflect further reporting and analysis" that found the symbol has been used in American politics for more that a century before the 3rd Reich was even a thing.

    — George Bentley, Listen for the Trumpet. (@Geobent) July 15, 2020

So Hitler was also guilty of cultural appropriation.
Title: Re: Trump's (Pelosi's) Nazi Symbol
Post by: TommyGunn on July 15, 2020, 11:24:23 PM
 ;/

Eagles have been used in iconography  as far back as the Roman Empire,  and probably longer.
Title: Re: Trump's (Pelosi's) Nazi Symbol
Post by: WLJ on July 15, 2020, 11:28:07 PM
I hate Roman Nazis
Title: Re: Trump's (Pelosi's) Nazi Symbol
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 15, 2020, 11:40:25 PM
And then we can blame Trump for peoples of colors feeling threatened and unsafe and unhappy, instead of blaming the far-left FUD squads!
Title: Re: Trump's (Pelosi's) Nazi Symbol
Post by: TommyGunn on July 16, 2020, 11:26:46 AM
I hate Roman Nazis

No one did NAZI  like those cute old Romans .... they had Caligula,  Tiberius,  Nero .... all the Nazis had was one scheisskopf with one nut and a postage-stamp mustache . [tinfoil] [popcorn]..
Title: Re: Trump's (Pelosi's) Nazi Symbol
Post by: Angel Eyes on July 16, 2020, 11:51:12 AM
;/

Eagles have been used in iconography  as far back as the Roman Empire,  and probably longer.

(https://static.wonderfulunion.net/groundctrl/clients/the_eagles/media/09/00/images/assets/large.aNss6s0XRsqwfJq9TPRFit56CtsbZtlXsE-eEAxtfKE.jpg)

(not quite as far back as the Romans)
Title: Re: Trump's (Pelosi's) Nazi Symbol
Post by: 230RN on July 22, 2020, 10:02:50 AM
The symbol for St. John is an eagle.

And somewhere "down there" the Minister of Propaganda is smiling.

        (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-1968-101-20A%2C_Joseph_Goebbels.jpg/220px-Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-1968-101-20A%2C_Joseph_Goebbels.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump's (Pelosi's) Nazi Symbol
Post by: 230RN on July 26, 2020, 10:38:08 PM
^
Who doesn't know history is bound to repeat it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels#Propagandist_in_Berlin

Quote
Aware of the value of publicity (both positive and negative), he deliberately provoked beer-hall battles and street brawls, including violent attacks on the Communist Party of Germany.[59] Goebbels adapted recent developments in commercial advertising to the political sphere, including the use of catchy slogans and subliminal cues.[60] His new ideas for poster design included using large type, red ink, and cryptic headers that encouraged the reader to examine the fine print to determine the meaning.[61]

Risky post, this.  One f the detriments of modern "interwebz culture" is that it is easy to fling the term "Godwinning" to stifle discussion of parallels with the very relevant propaganda techniques and strategies of the Nazis of the 30s and the first half of the 40s.

So fling away.

Terry, 230RN