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Title: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: Ben on July 21, 2020, 03:05:45 PM
Gall dang, man. I was moving my wheel line this morning and a kamikaze wasp came out of nowhere, flew straight into my ear, and stung me. And I don't mean on my ear, I mean IN my ear. Holy hell did that hurt. Within a minute, the entire left side of my head and face was burning and throbbing.  I was dancing around in the middle of my alfalfa field and cussing up a storm like a Trailer Park Boy.  :laugh:

It's three hours later, and the pain is only now subsiding. I've been stung on the hands, arms, even neck before, but none of them hurt like this.

Burn in hell forever, wasps.
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: 230RN on July 21, 2020, 03:51:41 PM
Yep.  Got one down my shirt at about 30 MPH on my motorcycle once, which ticked him/her/it off no end.

Multiple stings, damned near drove into a bridge support, natural tendency is to swat with one's front brake hand, and et ceteraness. Kept shirt buttoned all the way after that.

I kept his/her/its remains in a pill bottle for a couple of years, but I don't know where it is nowadays.
 
It looked like I had five nipples for a couple of days.

But in your meatus acusticus like, wow, man.  I can't say I feel your pain, but I agree with your final assessment.

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: Nick1911 on July 21, 2020, 04:06:44 PM
I got nailed by one a year or two ago.  I was just walking around near my garden, and this wasp came off a nest like 10 feet away and nailed me in the head.

I was so pissed off, I immediately drove down the street and got a big can of wasp spray, and went on a wasp murdering rampage.  Wasps are the worst, may they all die in a fire.
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: RocketMan on July 21, 2020, 04:08:59 PM
Wasps are the worst, may they all die in a fire.

With yellowjackets and hornets a close second.
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: Ben on July 21, 2020, 04:13:11 PM
With yellowjackets and hornets a close second.

That entire group of stinging insects can just rot in hell. If I get stung by a bee, it usually means  I was at least partially at fault through not paying attention and irritating them in some way. Wasps, etc. are just plain aholes.
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: HankB on July 21, 2020, 04:34:06 PM
There SHOULD be a way to harness wasp & hornet's natural nastiness and put it to work against the violent ANTIFA and BLM gatherings we've been seeing lately . . .  >:D
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: Brad Johnson on July 21, 2020, 05:18:15 PM
I had one zap me behind the ear once, right down in the fold. Hurt like hell.

Brad
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: 230RN on July 21, 2020, 05:22:52 PM
There SHOULD be a way to harness wasp & hornet's natural nastiness and put it to work against the violent ANTIFA and BLM gatherings we've been seeing lately . . .  >:D

Blue-skying on that, I figure you could capture a nest at night and trebuchet it into their midst. Only trouble with that is you'd probably affect non-target species.  Like everyone else around them.  Oh, and you'd be accused of using biological weapons.

But a delightful thought anyhow.
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: RoadKingLarry on July 21, 2020, 05:54:58 PM
If a fellow had enough bee hives that a few hundred from each hive wouldn't be a big loss  you could make one hell of a bee bomb.
 =D
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: Jim147 on July 21, 2020, 06:07:46 PM
Running around here on the cart for years I have at least one a year get behind my glasses. I'm still not sure how I haven't been stung in the eye yet.
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: WLJ on July 21, 2020, 06:13:38 PM
Running around here on the cart for years I have at least one a year get behind my glasses. I'm still not sure how I haven't been stung in the eye yet.

Got stung in the eye by a wasp when I was a kid
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: Ben on July 21, 2020, 06:16:46 PM
I think the eye would be 10X worse than the ear.
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: MechAg94 on July 22, 2020, 08:22:41 PM
If a fellow had enough bee hives that a few hundred from each hive wouldn't be a big loss  you could make one hell of a bee bomb.
 =D
My brother has been getting into bees.  He has started 4 or 5 hives.  Still on the small side. 

I was at the range this afternoon.  Some wasps were buzzing around the area I intended to shoot from so I decided to move.  I couldn't find where where they had a nest, but I figure it was somewhere nearby.
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: Andiron on July 22, 2020, 11:01:09 PM
Sting in the ear is the worst thing I've heard lately,  that sucks man.  Reading about that causes sympathy pain,  like hearing about a deliberate paper cut.


If we're doing one-upsman stories of stinging insect retribution, here's mine.

Long ago,  I was clearing our property of scrub in a medium sized excavator.  There was  a lot to do,  and this was my weekend/evening catharsis.  There was almost always alcohol.

So one friday night,  I'm in the machine,  minding my own business ripping scrub and WHAM,  a sting.  Then another,  and another.  At that point I bail out and start stripping my shirt off on the run.  The hornets aren't letting up and are now going after my dog.  We run 200 ish yards to the house, with me swatting them frantically off me and the mutt.  I clear us of bugs and regroup.  Get another drink,  and start planning my vengeance...

TLDR, Got extra layers of clothes, goggles and gloves.  Mixed up a can of diesel with a bit of gas, and grabbed a road flare.  Made it to the machine, drove it back while getting dive bombed by hornets,  changed the bucket for a grader ( no drain holes).  Dump volatile mix into said bucket,  and button the machine up tight.  Roll up to ground hornet nest with pissed off bugs pinging off the cab windows,  and dump 5 gallons of nasty on their stupid nest.  Haul ass away.  Then strike the flare and pitch that sumbitch...  Muted "woosh",  and no more ground hornets.

No kill like overkill.
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: Jim147 on July 22, 2020, 11:27:25 PM
That's the way to do it.
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: TommyGunn on July 23, 2020, 10:49:05 AM
Sting in the ear is the worst thing I've heard lately,  that sucks man.  Reading about that causes sympathy pain,  like hearing about a deliberate paper cut.


If we're doing one-upsman stories of stinging insect retribution, here's mine.

Long ago,  I was clearing our property of scrub in a medium sized excavator.  There was  a lot to do,  and this was my weekend/evening catharsis.  There was almost always alcohol.

So one friday night,  I'm in the machine,  minding my own business ripping scrub and WHAM,  a sting.  Then another,  and another.  At that point I bail out and start stripping my shirt off on the run.  The hornets aren't letting up and are now going after my dog.  We run 200 ish yards to the house, with me swatting them frantically off me and the mutt.  I clear us of bugs and regroup.  Get another drink,  and start planning my vengeance...

TLDR, Got extra layers of clothes, goggles and gloves.  Mixed up a can of diesel with a bit of gas, and grabbed a road flare.  Made it to the machine, drove it back while getting dive bombed by hornets,  changed the bucket for a grader ( no drain holes).  Dump volatile mix into said bucket,  and button the machine up tight.  Roll up to ground hornet nest with pissed off bugs pinging off the cab windows,  and dump 5 gallons of nasty on their stupid nest.  Haul ass away.  Then strike the flare and pitch that sumbitch...  Muted "woosh",  and no more ground hornets.

No kill like overkill.


 :mad:  I wanted it to be DETCORD!!!   ........ [tinfoil]
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: Ben on July 23, 2020, 11:44:48 AM

 :mad:  I wanted it to be DETCORD!!!   ........ [tinfoil]

Eh... quasi-napalm is just as gratifying.  :laugh:
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: Larry Ashcraft on July 23, 2020, 12:47:56 PM
Pro Tip:  Use an aspirin poultice right away.  I takes the sting right out.  We keep a small marble mortar and pestle with cheap aspirin crushed in it at all times in the summer.  If you don't have that, grab an aspirin, wet it, and hold it on the sting.  Has to be within a few minutes of the sting to be effective.

Another pro tip: Arnica gel.  The stuff is magic on bug bites.  I get it at a health foods store.  Large tube for about $15.  It's made with Arnica flowers, so you can feel all warm and fuzzy about using natural vegan remedies.
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: WLJ on July 23, 2020, 12:59:59 PM
I think the eye would be 10X worse than the ear.

I don't know about 10x but it hurt like a.....
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: Ben on July 22, 2023, 11:49:05 AM
Well, first wasp sting of the season this morning. Another freakin' kamikaze wasp. Out in the middle of a pasture, no place around for a nest, and he dive bombs me out of nowhere, right in the back of the neck. I started carrying some "sting-ease" wipes in the SxS IFAK, and used one for the first time for this bite. It actually helped a lot. That throbbing pain part only lasted a few minutes, instead of like 10-15 minutes.

&%*%^$*@! wasps.


EDIT: And I just noticed that my OP here was posted on 21JUL, and this post is 22JUL. I guess I know which week of the year that I have to start being careful.  :laugh:
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: tokugawa on July 22, 2023, 12:05:02 PM
I am not sure on the difference between hornets, wasps, and yellow jackets. We have the type that make the gray roundish nests stuck to the underside or house eves, and the ground dwelling type. The ground nester's seem more aggressive, and they seem to be moving into other accommodations lately.

Some moved into a birdhouse and took it over, filled the whole thing- unfortunately for them, it was on a garden fence post .
I was trying to figure out how best to deal with them, normally I would use a shop vac but it was 8' in the air and the risk of escapees was high. So I got up before dawn, moved a step ladder over and dumped an entire can of spray into the 1 1/2" entrance hole- and the little *expletive deleted*ers were still boiling out! But not for long.

Pulled up to the store the other day, took off my leather, and felt this bad pain in back- WTF? Did I just pull a tendon?
Later found the sting site, no sign of a wasp and no idea how it got inside the jacket that far back without stinging somewhere else as well.
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: K Frame on July 23, 2023, 07:30:37 AM
Did you do a dance this time? :rofl:
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: Ben on July 23, 2023, 07:59:36 AM
Did you do a dance this time? :rofl:

No, this time I just stood there, looked up at the heavens, and asked, "Why?"  :laugh:
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: K Frame on July 23, 2023, 11:50:03 AM
No, this time I just stood there, looked up at the heavens, and asked, "Why?"  :laugh:

And the answer (at which point you know you're screwed...)

WELL WHY THE HELL NOT?

:rofl:
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: MechAg94 on July 23, 2023, 11:08:57 PM
I am not sure on the difference between hornets, wasps, and yellow jackets. We have the type that make the gray roundish nests stuck to the underside or house eves, and the ground dwelling type. The ground nester's seem more aggressive, and they seem to be moving into other accommodations lately.

Some moved into a birdhouse and took it over, filled the whole thing- unfortunately for them, it was on a garden fence post .
I was trying to figure out how best to deal with them, normally I would use a shop vac but it was 8' in the air and the risk of escapees was high. So I got up before dawn, moved a step ladder over and dumped an entire can of spray into the 1 1/2" entrance hole- and the little *expletive deleted*ers were still boiling out! But not for long.

Pulled up to the store the other day, took off my leather, and felt this bad pain in back- WTF? Did I just pull a tendon?
Later found the sting site, no sign of a wasp and no idea how it got inside the jacket that far back without stinging somewhere else as well.
On stuff like the bird house, I wonder if it would make a difference just to fill the house with insulation foam.  I guess the spray is cheaper and easier to clean out.  The sprays that foam up decently would work ok for a situation like that.  Other than that, maybe just set up a bug bomb on a ladder right out front? 

...or just set up a fire under the bird house. 
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: AmbulanceDriver on July 24, 2023, 11:39:31 AM
Found a paper wasp nest on the garden shed yesterday afternoon.  probably a good 5 inches in diameter.  LOTS of capped cells.  Waited until around 9PM and doused it with spray wasp killer.  Found a couple of other small nests on the eaves as well and hit those too. 
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: Ben on July 24, 2023, 12:24:40 PM
Found a paper wasp nest on the garden shed yesterday afternoon.  probably a good 5 inches in diameter.  LOTS of capped cells.  Waited until around 9PM and doused it with spray wasp killer.  Found a couple of other small nests on the eaves as well and hit those too.

Unexpected places I have found wasp nests:

No longer unexpected, but they seem to love outdoor covered electric outlets. I've finally trained myself to knock on the cover and step back before I open it all the way.

Specific to me, on the livestock fencing, all the areas where the fence meets the gates have 2" pipes in the ground as gate frames. The pipes were not capped, and the wasps would go like 6" down the top and build giant nests. When I went to open or close a gate, the vibration set them off. Stung several times that way before I bought a dozen pipe caps and covered them all up.

Inside my wheel line motor cover. There's a little hatch you open up to turn on the motor and pull the cord so you don't have to lift the entire motor cover off. Wasps go under the cover and build nests on the motor. When I reach my hand in the hatch to turn on the motor switch, I get stung.
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: AmbulanceDriver on July 24, 2023, 01:01:44 PM
Had a nest in my barbeque once....   Also on the underside of an adirondack chair.
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: MechAg94 on July 24, 2023, 05:17:27 PM
The one that often surprises me is when they get inside the insulating covers for the water hose connections on the house.  I mess with those so seldom I forget about it. 
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: JTHunter on July 24, 2023, 10:32:30 PM
There SHOULD be a way to harness wasp & hornet's natural nastiness and put it to work against the violent ANTIFA and BLM gatherings we've been seeing lately . . .  >:D

For that, you actually need a nest of hornets, the big papery things on tree branches.  That's the only way you'll have enough wasps to do some good.  The only chance you have of getting them is at night AND you still need thick coverings.  You have to get either a very heavy-duty (thick) plastic trash bag or more than one.  Bag the nest, tying the bag shut over the branch, then CAREFULLY cut off both sides of the tree branch.  Duct tape the neck/branch area to seal the bag - or else !!
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: RocketMan on July 25, 2023, 08:59:56 AM
Sounds like the voice of experience there, JT.
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: Bogie on July 25, 2023, 10:07:15 AM
When I was young, I got stung in the junk once. Was wearing shorts.
 
I really hate wasps.
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: grampster on July 25, 2023, 04:08:38 PM
I have a hive under a rock in my rock garden along the house, under the hose faucet.  I squirted a half can of yellow jacket and ground bee spray down there.   There are MORE of the @a$t@rds today.  There is another bunch in an evergreen pyramidal on the side of my house.  I got nailed in the finger by one of them while trimming the pyramidal.  They're the small mostly yellow SOBs.  I think they are a wasp of some sort...maybe a yellow jacket?
Google tells me there is some sort of powder stuff you put down their hole at night that kills em off.  I don't know what to do about the pyramidal batch as trying to look in that bush invites something I don't want.
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: AmbulanceDriver on July 25, 2023, 07:35:08 PM
Found another medium sized next of paper wasps on the front eave of the house.   Waiting until dark to get those little bastages.   Also a *lot* of them flying around the side yard where our pop-up trailer is parked.    Hopefully they're just scouts from the medium nest I found.   If not then it's a bug hunt.

Need to reset the Wasp/Hornet/Yellowjacket traps tonight.

Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: K Frame on July 26, 2023, 07:15:32 AM
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Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: grampster on July 26, 2023, 10:38:32 PM
So, it's about 3 or 4 days later and my finger and back of my hand started Itching like crazy this morning.  Around 8PM I remembered that freaking wasp/bee bit me on that finger.  I looked closer and I saw something black in there so I dipped my pocket knife in some alcohol and dug the black thing out.  It must have been a stinger.  A little later, I looked again and saw another black spot.  Another stinger.  I must have got hit twice in the same spot. :facepalm: :mad: [ar15]
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: zxcvbob on July 27, 2023, 01:03:32 AM
On stuff like the bird house, I wonder if it would make a difference just to fill the house with insulation foam.  I guess the spray is cheaper and easier to clean out.  The sprays that foam up decently would work ok for a situation like that.  Other than that, maybe just set up a bug bomb on a ladder right out front? 

...or just set up a fire under the bird house.

Years ago, I bought a 5# bag of methoxychlor 50WP insecticide.  I still have about half of it.  I think the EPA has banned it recently, but I don't care*.  It works *great* for dealing with underground wasp nests.  I wait until night, then throw a good pinch of it down the entrance hole.  The wasps get it on their feet and track it into the hive and it kills the whole thing in about 24 hours or so.  Sevin dust should do the same thing, just not as fast.  I think you can still buy 5% Sevin, but use the 10% if you got it.

*I also have 74% chlordane that I'm saving in case I ever have a termite problem.  It's old enough that it's listed for other purposes, but I'm reserving it for termites.  Hopefully I never need to use it.  https://www3.epa.gov/pesticides/chem_search/ppls/008222-00044-19690124.pdf
Title: Re: *$%&^!@ Wasps!
Post by: JTHunter on July 27, 2023, 03:10:18 PM
So, it's about 3 or 4 days later and my finger and back of my hand started Itching like crazy this morning.  Around 8PM I remembered that freaking wasp/bee bit me on that finger.  I looked closer and I saw something black in there so I dipped my pocket knife in some alcohol and dug the black thing out.  It must have been a stinger.  A little later, I looked again and saw another black spot.  Another stinger.  I must have got hit twice in the same spot. :facepalm: :mad: [ar15]

Unlike honeybees, wasps do not have a "barbed" stinger and can get you multiple times.  The "black stuff" may have been dead cells of yours because of the strength of the poison.  If you have a "high pressure" brass nozzle for your garden hose, spraying before you trim may chase them away - but only temporarily.
Good luck.