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Title: VP debate?
Post by: Jim147 on October 07, 2020, 09:00:22 PM
The last VP debate I watched had three people. Pence needs to win this and do it in a way Trump can't.

I'm already half drunk so it should be fun.
Title: Re: VP debate?
Post by: Andiron on October 07, 2020, 09:02:42 PM


I'm already half drunk so it should be fun.

Hell, isn't that  a prereq for political circus?
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Post by: MillCreek on October 07, 2020, 09:15:27 PM
So far, way more polite and less interrupting.
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Post by: charby on October 07, 2020, 09:29:35 PM
They both suck
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Post by: WLJ on October 07, 2020, 09:30:42 PM
Forgot about it, put up a YT stream and took one look at the smug look on Harris's face and had to turn it off.
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Post by: Ben on October 07, 2020, 09:36:07 PM
More polite, but they keep doing split screens showing Harris smirking and making faces through each of Pence's segments. I've only just started watching and am just fast forwarding through getting snippets.

The moderator is writing Nacy Pelosi's biography. I think Pence is doing pretty good considering her slanted questions which are basically "Why did Trump screw up?" to Pence and "How would Biden fix things? to Harris.
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Post by: DittoHead on October 07, 2020, 09:53:33 PM
So far, way more polite and less interrupting.

It is much better, hardly any cross-talk.
I still think they should cut one mic for those 2 uninterrupted minutes that start each segment at the very least.
Title: Re: VP debate?
Post by: Jim147 on October 07, 2020, 10:16:07 PM
They don't answer the question
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Post by: DittoHead on October 07, 2020, 10:20:33 PM
Get the dang fly off your head Mike!
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Post by: MechAg94 on October 07, 2020, 10:22:54 PM
They don't answer the question

I thought Pence has done a much better job of being direct, but not every time.  Harris keeps running away from every direct question like the one on if they will try to stack the SC.  IMO, the main points which Harris makes that seem good are all long ago debunked "facts".  It might work with some I guess.  

I will be curious to see what the speaking time allowances are for each one, before and after the first time the moderator tried to stop them.  

Overall I think Pence is doing a good job of being the complete opposite of Trump.  
Title: Re: VP debate?
Post by: Jim147 on October 07, 2020, 10:26:54 PM
Crap can't take the lies
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Post by: MillCreek on October 07, 2020, 10:30:42 PM
I am disappoint that neither of them directly answered on the peaceful transfer of power.
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Post by: RoadKingLarry on October 08, 2020, 06:21:44 AM
I managed about 5 minutes of watching Harris and couldnt stomach it. I'll get the analysis off youtube.
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Post by: Perd Hapley on October 08, 2020, 06:49:48 AM
So I'm not the only one who can't tolerate Harris. I won't even try to watch her performances.
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Post by: MillCreek on October 08, 2020, 08:25:41 AM
The Twitterverse this morning is all about the fly.
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Post by: Ben on October 08, 2020, 08:31:23 AM
From looking at the various online synopses this morning, I guess I wasn't the only one who quickly got sick of Harris's constant smirking and making faces like a teenage girl.

Also apparently AOC is very upset that Pence called her AOC during the debate.
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Post by: WLJ on October 08, 2020, 08:45:10 AM
(https://www.independent.co.ug/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Mike-pence-fly.jpg)
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Post by: Hawkmoon on October 08, 2020, 08:46:18 AM
Just saw a headline that CNN scored it 59% for Harris and 38% for Pence. I guess that means Pence scored a knockout, right?
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Post by: Fly320s on October 08, 2020, 08:54:09 AM
Coworker says Harris answered nearly all of the questions while Pence only answered one question.
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Post by: WLJ on October 08, 2020, 09:03:36 AM
Just saw a headline that CNN scored it 59% for Harris and 38% for Pence. I guess that means Pence scored a knockout, right?

CNN Sept 2 1945: This just in! Japan wins WW-II
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Post by: MechAg94 on October 08, 2020, 09:25:15 AM
Just saw a headline that CNN scored it 59% for Harris and 38% for Pence. I guess that means Pence scored a knockout, right?
I thought Pence answer the questions well and remained calm and reserved the whole time.  I thought he did very well.  Harris doesn't debate well IMO.
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Post by: WLJ on October 08, 2020, 09:29:40 AM
I keep trying to watch some of it but every time I see Harris's smirking smug face my blood pressure goes through the roof
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Post by: Ron on October 08, 2020, 09:50:48 AM
I listened on the radio through the first 10 minutes then pulled the plug, unbearable.

The debates are useless for Republicans IMHO, other than to show how well (or not) they perform against the odds.

The moderators are always a disaster.

The consensus among sources I trust is Pence won if you are polling sane people.

Harris won if you are infantile and low IQ.
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Post by: WLJ on October 08, 2020, 10:04:22 AM

Harris won if you are infantile and low IQ.

As far as voting goes the dem controlled public schools have largely taken care of the latter, the dems are actively working on giving the right to vote to the former
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Post by: WLJ on October 08, 2020, 10:19:09 AM
Wait, what?

Quote
Every woman knows that condescending sexist man who repeatedly calls you by your name as a way to be disdainful and patronizing when he's talking to you and I don't know what the term for that is but it is A Thing and Mike Pence is doing it to Susan Page.

— Jill Filipovic (@JillFilipovic) October 8, 2020
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/10/08/the-audacity-jill-filipovic-is-outraged-at-condescending-sexist-man-mike-pence-calling-susan-page-by-her-name/
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Post by: Hawkmoon on October 08, 2020, 10:50:03 AM
Wait, what?
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/10/08/the-audacity-jill-filipovic-is-outraged-at-condescending-sexist-man-mike-pence-calling-susan-page-by-her-name/

Yeah -- IIRC, Barbara Boxer had a problem with being addressed as "Ma'am." She wouldn't have been happy with "Mrs. Boxer" either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0CprVYsG0k

I guess I'm old fashioned. My grandmother taught me that "Ma'am" was a term of respect. Times change ...
Title: Re: VP debate?
Post by: Ron on October 08, 2020, 11:05:22 AM
Yeah -- IIRC, Barbara Boxer had a problem with being addressed as "Ma'am." She wouldn't have been happy with "Mrs. Boxer" either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0CprVYsG0k

I guess I'm old fashioned. My grandmother taught me that "Ma'am" was a term of respect. Times change ...

Reminds me of the games played concerning what we call the Black population of Americans.

negro, n****r, black, Black, African American, colored, I probably missed a few.

The left changes and confuses terms and names. Not knowing which term/name is appropriate in which situation is used as a hammer to attack. These aren't static terms but they move and change so unless you're in on the game you can never always get it right.

All of the names above are used without offense by the leftists but all of the terms above are fraught with danger if a person of the right uses them incorrectly (even innocently). There is no rule book for you to follow because then you would master the rules and it couldn't be used to beat you with then.

Just the act of me typing out those names and offering an opinion is an act of "racism".

Admit it, you flinched when you saw what I wrote.

Wake up, you've been conditioned.
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Post by: MillCreek on October 08, 2020, 11:22:21 AM
Yeah -- IIRC, Barbara Boxer had a problem with being addressed as "Ma'am." She wouldn't have been happy with "Mrs. Boxer" either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0CprVYsG0k

I guess I'm old fashioned. My grandmother taught me that "Ma'am" was a term of respect. Times change ...


My parents are from Arkansas, and they raised their kids to call people 'Sir' and 'Ma'am'.  In recent years, I have been surprised to see how many women resent that term.  The most common explanation I hear is that it makes them feel old.
Title: Re: VP debate?
Post by: bedlamite on October 08, 2020, 11:49:18 AM
It's obvious the Russians sent the fly to give Pence last minute information.
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Post by: just Warren on October 08, 2020, 12:54:46 PM
Didn't see it but Pence must have crushed Harris since the lefties on my FB feed can only talk about the fly.
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Post by: WLJ on October 08, 2020, 01:05:40 PM
Didn't see it but Pence must have crushed Harris since the lefties on my FB feed can only talk about the fly.

Some guy on MSNBC said a fly is seen historically as a sign of sin and a mark of the devil

https://youtu.be/uxeYOvpZ_1E?t=1080
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Post by: TommyGunn on October 08, 2020, 01:13:46 PM
It's obvious the Russians sent the fly to give Pence last minute information.

OUTTED!!!!  Spetnaz hit squad en route to avenge the sabotage to their dastardly plan!!!!  :rofl: [tinfoil] [popcorn]  ;/
Title: Re: VP debate?
Post by: Pb on October 08, 2020, 01:59:39 PM
Some guy on MSNBC said a fly is seen historically as a sign of sin and a mark of the devil

https://youtu.be/uxeYOvpZ_1E?t=1080

This is our news media. 
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Post by: Perd Hapley on October 08, 2020, 02:19:29 PM
The left changes and confuses terms and names. Not knowing which term/name is appropriate in which situation is used as a hammer to attack. These aren't static terms but they move and change so unless you're in on the game you can never always get it right.

All of the names above are used without offense by the leftists but all of the terms above are fraught with danger if a person of the right uses them incorrectly (even innocently). There is no rule book for you to follow because then you would master the rules and it couldn't be used to beat you with then.

Oh, absolutely. They want us afraid to speak, or to think for ourselves, lest we say or think the wrong thing. And it works.
Title: Re: VP debate?
Post by: charby on October 08, 2020, 02:50:29 PM
My parents are from Arkansas, and they raised their kids to call people 'Sir' and 'Ma'am'.  In recent years, I have been surprised to see how many women resent that term.  The most common explanation I hear is that it makes them feel old.

I call any woman regardless of age or martial status, "miss". I always get a smile.

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Post by: WLJ on October 08, 2020, 03:54:46 PM
Now he was "mansplaining"

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/10/08/lol-george-stephanopoulos-tells-female-reporter-mike-pence-was-mansplaining-at-the-debate-and-she-disagrees/
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Post by: Angel Eyes on October 08, 2020, 11:19:37 PM
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Post by: Perd Hapley on October 09, 2020, 12:02:48 AM
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No, they're the people who think their guy won.
Title: Re: VP debate?
Post by: bedlamite on October 09, 2020, 10:11:38 PM
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