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Title: Honduran Caravans Start Up Again
Post by: Ben on December 10, 2020, 08:19:13 AM
Hondurans are forming caravans to once again, drive through other countries and demand entry into the US. It will be interesting to see how 46 handles it given the CCP virus. Besides the illegal alien issue, if they are let in, no one anywhere should follow any of the pandemic isolation rules.

I wonder if Mexico will try to stop them in the name of the virus.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/honduran-migrant-caravan-heading-to-us-could-be-early-test-for-biden-reports
Title: Re: Honduran Caravans Start Up Again
Post by: WLJ on December 10, 2020, 08:22:20 AM
Biden: Come my little democrats, we have free cookies
Title: Re: Honduran Caravans Start Up Again
Post by: Ron on December 10, 2020, 08:29:32 AM
National suicide by libertarian border policy.

Title: Re: Honduran Caravans Start Up Again
Post by: K Frame on December 10, 2020, 09:55:44 AM
"Besides the illegal alien issue, if they are let in, no one anywhere should follow any of the pandemic isolation rules."

How dare you, you racist! Everyone knows that liberal political gatherings cure people of the Kung Flu, while only conservatives spread it!
Title: Re: Honduran Caravans Start Up Again
Post by: WLJ on December 10, 2020, 10:14:14 AM
 I wouldn't be surprised one bit if they're put at the front of the line for the vaccine, in fact I'm expecting it.
Title: Re: Honduran Caravans Start Up Again
Post by: zxcvbob on December 10, 2020, 10:17:21 AM
I wouldn't be surprised one bit if they're put at the front of the line for the vaccine, in fact I'm expecting it.

As guinea pigs? :)
Title: Re: Honduran Caravans Start Up Again
Post by: WLJ on December 10, 2020, 10:20:56 AM
As guinea pigs? :)

It's perfectly safe and effective as of the morning of Nov 4th unlike that Trump version.
Title: Re: Honduran Caravans Start Up Again
Post by: TommyGunn on December 10, 2020, 10:28:24 AM
National suicide by libertarian socialist border policy.


FIFY.  :police:   ;)
Title: Re: Honduran Caravans Start Up Again
Post by: charby on December 10, 2020, 10:43:15 AM

FIFY.  :police:   ;)

Nope, Ron had it right. A true libertarian would want open borders where as a socialist would want a locked down border to keep citizens in and foreigners out.   
Title: Re: Honduran Caravans Start Up Again
Post by: WLJ on December 10, 2020, 10:46:39 AM
a socialist would want a locked down border to keep citizens in and foreigners out.  

Out? They won't be coming. There's a reason most guard tower machine guns face inward in socialist countries
Title: Re: Honduran Caravans Start Up Again
Post by: Ben on December 10, 2020, 10:48:55 AM
Nope, Ron had it right. A true libertarian would want open borders where as a socialist would want a locked down border to keep citizens in and foreigners out.   

Keeping illegal aliens who go through zero Ellis Island types of background processing and medical evaluations out of the US is socialist? Interesting definition of socialism.
Title: Re: Honduran Caravans Start Up Again
Post by: charby on December 10, 2020, 10:52:52 AM
Keeping illegal aliens who go through zero Ellis Island types of background processing and medical evaluations out of the US is socialist? Interesting definition of socialism.

That wouldn't be an open border, with an Ellis Island type model, the government can control who is allowed in and who isn't, hence no longer be an illegal alien.
Title: Re: Honduran Caravans Start Up Again
Post by: Ben on December 10, 2020, 10:54:35 AM
That wouldn't be an open border, with an Ellis Island type model, the government can control who is allowed in and who isn't, hence no longer be an illegal alien.

That was my point, and it's not socialist - it's common sense.
Title: Re: Honduran Caravans Start Up Again
Post by: charby on December 10, 2020, 11:04:36 AM
That was my point, and it's not socialist - it's common sense.

Nothing makes sense, groups pick and choose what they want to believe in. Instead of calling a leftist person a socialist or in Bernie's case calling himself a socialist, just say they have socialist leanings. Same with conservatives. Probably applies to most self claiming religious (Christian, Jew, Muslim, etc) people too.  ;)
Title: Re: Honduran Caravans Start Up Again
Post by: TommyGunn on December 10, 2020, 11:47:28 AM
Nope, Ron had it right. A true libertarian would want open borders where as a socialist would want a locked down border to keep citizens in and foreigners out.   

Actually,  Communists, socialists and Marxists  use walls to keep people in.  The Berlin Wall didn't keep West Germans out, it kept East Germans IN

And Biden is NOT a libertarian, anyway.
Title: Re: Honduran Caravans Start Up Again
Post by: charby on December 10, 2020, 11:51:08 AM
Actually,  Communists, socialists and Marxists  use walls to keep people in.  The Berlin Wall didn't keep West Germans out, it kept East Germans IN

Once they are ruled by a despot, might take a couple years to go from utopia to dictator.

They don't want people to leave, don't want the real story getting out.

They also don't want people coming in and spreading seeds of discontent or having to support more mouths to feed.



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And Biden is NOT a libertarian, anyway.

That's pretty obvious.
Title: Re: Honduran Caravans Start Up Again
Post by: K Frame on December 10, 2020, 11:57:38 AM
"Once they are ruled by a despot, might take a couple years to go from utopia to dictator. "

Only took a couple of months for that to happen in Venezuela.
Title: Re: Honduran Caravans Start Up Again
Post by: dogmush on December 10, 2020, 11:59:14 AM
Do we still have the cages?
Title: Re: Honduran Caravans Start Up Again
Post by: charby on December 10, 2020, 12:26:18 PM
Do we still have the cages?

Cages are cool now, it's an Obama thing.
Title: Re: Honduran Caravans Start Up Again
Post by: Ron on December 10, 2020, 09:41:49 PM
Actually,  Communists, socialists and Marxists  use walls to keep people in.  The Berlin Wall didn't keep West Germans out, it kept East Germans IN

And Biden is NOT a libertarian, anyway.

Open borders, unfettered immigration is a leftist position shared by Biden and libertarians.

Title: Re: Honduran Caravans Start Up Again
Post by: TommyGunn on December 10, 2020, 10:37:34 PM
Open borders, unfettered immigration is a leftist position shared by Biden and libertarians.



 ;)  Yeeeup.
Title: Re: Honduran Caravans Start Up Again
Post by: Andiron on December 10, 2020, 11:08:39 PM
National sovereignty was for chumps anyway... Diversity is our strength!

No way out but through gents.
Title: Re: Honduran Caravans Start Up Again
Post by: WLJ on December 11, 2020, 09:09:31 AM
National sovereignty was for chumps anyway... Diversity is our strength!

No way out but through gents.

Yep, worked for Austria-Hungary, Yugoslavia and The Soviet Union. They're still around right? Well pieces of them are.
Title: Re: Honduran Caravans Start Up Again
Post by: brimic on December 11, 2020, 05:34:15 PM
National suicide by libertarian border policy.



I know, those damned libertarians in power do it every time.
Title: Re: Honduran Caravans Start Up Again
Post by: Ron on December 11, 2020, 10:31:02 PM
I know, those damned libertarians in power do it every time.

Essentially zero space between the libertarian position and the leftist position on immigration.

Libertarians need to own it or change their mind, like this lifelong "classical liberal" changed his mind.

Ideological induced suicide is still suicide.