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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: WLJ on June 27, 2021, 09:00:24 AM
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No this is not from the Babylon Bee
Pronouns are often attributed to a person at birth, when newborns can be labelled ‘he/him’ or ‘she/her’ depending on their biological sex. Despite a wealth of progress on the matter, many people still have a habit of assuming a person’s gender and pronouns.
Oh no!
This lack of understanding, or perhaps in some cases refusal to learn, has led to 85% of Brits not knowing the meaning of the term ‘neopronoun’, which refers to a set of singular third-person pronouns typically created with the intent of being a gender neutral pronoun set.
OH NO!
Mermaids CEO Susie Green, who uses the pronouns ‘she/her’, said the findings show we are facing a ‘misgendering crisis with the UK public not understanding the mental health impact that using the wrong pronouns can have on young minds.’
A further 86% of Brits do not understand one of the most likely impacts of misgendering someone is negatively affecting their mental health.
Good chance there already was something amiss when it came to their mental health
Report: UK headed toward ‘misgendering crisis’ as 61 percent of Brits don’t ask about pronouns
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/06/26/report-uk-headed-toward-misgendering-crisis-as-61-percent-of-brits-dont-ask-about-pronouns/
Concerns We’re Heading For ‘Misgendering Crisis’ As 61% Of Brits Never Ask About Pronouns
https://www.unilad.co.uk/featured/concerns-were-heading-for-misgendering-crisis-as-61-of-brits-never-ask-about-pronouns/
This reminds me, I need to clean out the litter boxes
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I'm actually not sure what my comeback line would be if someone were to ask me, "what my pronouns are". I'm thinking I'd either be dumbfounded and at a loss for words, or else coming back with an offensive, smartass reply.
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I am pretty sure this is not the best of all possible worlds. =(
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I'm actually not sure what my comeback line would be if someone were to ask me, "what my pronouns are". I'm thinking I'd either be dumbfounded and at a loss for words, or else coming back with an offensive, smartass reply.
Beep/Bop/Boop seems to trigger them pretty well.
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"first world problems"
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Half of these problems solve themselves but hey, encouraging cutting off OEM parts to solve what needs counseling is the greatest thing ever, bigot!
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We are encouraged to list our preferred pronouns on our corporate email signature. I am tempted to list 'Skippy the Wonder Dog' just to see if anyone notices.
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I'm actually not sure what my comeback line would be if someone were to ask me, "what my pronouns are". I'm thinking I'd either be dumbfounded and at a loss for words, or else coming back with an offensive, smartass reply.
Using profane ones come to mind.
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"first world problems"
Agreed. I will endeavor to remember this one if someone ever asks about my pronouns.
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I'm actually not sure what my comeback line would be if someone were to ask me, "what my pronouns are". I'm thinking I'd either be dumbfounded and at a loss for words, or else coming back with an offensive, smartass reply.
Offer to help them find an English as a Second Language course.
Among the many problems with the idiocy of "my pronouns" is that the whole purpose of pronouns like she and him is to be generic shortcuts. By nature, they aren't particular at all, but apply to one half of humanity or the other. They aren't yours or mine.
The second half of that problem is that pronouns are a shortcut. They're convenient. Unless, of course, you have to announce "your" pronouns, or look at someone's profile or email signature to know how to talk about them.
This deconstruction of the language has more in common with the French or Bolshevik revolutions than the American. So no thank you, lefties.
This stuff can only make headway in a dumbed-down populace. Even the snarky retorts to pronoun chicanery reveal that most of us don't know what a pronoun is. I'm sure Millcreek knows that "Skippy the Wonder Dog" is not a pronoun, but most don't seem to.
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I'm actually not sure what my comeback line would be if someone were to ask me, "what my pronouns are".
"Why, mine are pronouns, of course. What are yours? Adverbs?"
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Gotta love how the Left is screwing with these children's heads, and simultaneously preparing to blame normal Americans for the fallout of their own awful, antihuman ideas. Just great.
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Create a problem
Blame others
Require government money to "fix" problem
Profit
Western Civilization has devolved into one gigantic grift.
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Create a problem
Blame others
Require government money to "fix" problem
Profit
Western Civilization has devolved into one gigantic grift.
Or require gun regulation to fix the problem.
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Create a problem
Blame others
Require government money to "fix" problem
Profit
Western Civilization has devolved into one gigantic grift.
That's a good summation of the "issue." We are not heading for a misgendering crisis -- the loony tunes are doing their best to create a "misgendering" crisis by convincing gullible victims that God gave them the "wrong" bodies.
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The real crisis is that the general public doesn't really care what someone's pronouns are.
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I'm actually not sure what my comeback line would be if someone were to ask me, "what my pronouns are". I'm thinking I'd either be dumbfounded and at a loss for words, or else coming back with an offensive, smartass reply.
Can I use Smartass as my pronoun? It seems if it's OK to make up one such as Zer, I could use an existing word (accepted and accurate) as a pronoun.
Another question, would heads explode if I picked she/him as my pronouns?
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Offer to help them find an English as a Second Language course.
Among the many problems with the idiocy of "my pronouns" is that the whole purpose of pronouns like she and him is to be generic shortcuts. By nature, they aren't particular at all, but apply to one half of humanity or the other. They aren't yours or mine.
The second half of that problem is that pronouns are a shortcut. They're convenient. Unless, of course, you have to announce "your" pronouns, or look at someone's profile or email signature to know how to talk about them.
This deconstruction of the language has more in common with the French or Bolshevik revolutions than the American. So no thank you, lefties.
This stuff can only make headway in a dumbed-down populace. Even the snarky retorts to pronoun chicanery reveal that most of us don't know what a pronoun is. I'm sure Millcreek knows that "Skippy the Wonder Dog" is not a pronoun, but most don't seem to.
Wonderfully put.
All these pronoun shenanigans do is prove that people don't understand the utility of a 3rd person pronoun; it's a placeholder for a proper name or more specific noun, when the object is well understood by the first and second person who are engaged in communication. Party A is telling Party B to give a thing to Party C, for example. A and B are in agreement about the direct and/or indirect object, and that is belongs to or correlates to Party C. "Give it to him" is used if Party C is nominally male. "Give it to her" is used if Party C is nominally female. Soulful navel-gazing and spirit bonding over soy lattes while exchanging preferred pronouns is unnecessary, but also fundamentally a corruption of language. It's a hijacking of the 3rd person tense in the most narcissistic way possible.
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These are the same people that have subverted words like justice, diversity, and racism. They don't mean anything anymore.
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The real crisis is that the general public doesn't really care what someone's pronouns are.
Not sure how you mean that. We really do have a crisis of not caring about one another's personal lives. The average American can't seem to grasp that we can believe in personal freedom from coercive government action, but still care whether or not someone is hurting themselves. Somehow, we understand that we can try to help an alcoholic without banning alcohol. But legalizing sodomy has led us to believe there's something wrong with helping homosexuals and transgenders "transition" to a healthy, normal, heterosexual "cis" existence. We behave as if that was just the anteroom to reinstating anti-sodomy laws. This is a dumb planet.
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Not sure how you mean that. We really do have a crisis of not caring about one another's personal lives. The average American can't seem to grasp that we can believe in personal freedom from coercive government action, but still care whether or not someone is hurting themselves. Somehow, we understand that we can try to help an alcoholic without banning alcohol. But legalizing sodomy has led us to believe there's something wrong with helping homosexuals and transgenders "transition" to a healthy, normal, heterosexual "cis" existence. We behave as if that was just the anteroom to reinstating anti-sodomy laws. This is a dumb planet.
Unlike alcoholism, I think only a small minority believe that homosexuality and transgenderism is destructive, unhealthy, abnormal behavior.
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Unlike alcoholism, I think only a small minority believe that homosexuality and transgenderism is destructive, unhealthy, abnormal behavior.
Seems like heterosexuality is often treated as destructive, unhealthy, abnormal behavior nowadays
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Seems like heterosexuality is often treated as destructive, unhealthy, abnormal behavior nowadays
I would guess only a small minority thinks this way as well.
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I would guess only a small minority thinks this way as well.
Fixed it for you.
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Fixed it for you.
:rofl:
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Speaking of a misgendering crisis -- the Supreme Court just punted on the issue: https://apnews.com/article/us-supreme-court-courts-supreme-courts-government-and-politics-9b4cabc4e026d96d8f5492e03260985a
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Unlike alcoholism, I think only a small minority believe that homosexuality and transgenderism is destructive, unhealthy, abnormal behavior.
They are all destructive and unhealthy behaviors. Abnormal? There is nothing more normal than people doing destructive, unhealthy things.
Christian civilization, following the Bible, always denounced these things, and for good reason.
Now, I have read that 14% of young people have declared themselves homosexual, bisexual or transgendered. A married father and mother are the best for raising healthy children. The results of America's embrace of these things is horrific and going to get much worse.
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Even football is gay now.
The forced acceptance of the transgender foolishness is pretty much a fait accompli.
Next up ... consensual sex with minors.
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Even football is gay now.
The forced acceptance of the transgender foolishness is pretty much a fait accompli.
Next up ... consensual sex with minors.
https://babylonbee.com/news/nfl-player-announces-he-is-gay-is-switching-over-to-soccer
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Unlike alcoholism, I think only a small minority believe that homosexuality and transgenderism is destructive, unhealthy, abnormal behavior.
Which makes it all the more odd that people can be goaded into fearing us.
On the other hand, I doubt a majority of Americans actually view transgenderism as healthy or normal. Or it's at least a very large minority, like in the 40s. I suspect the heterosexist minority is a bit larger than commonly believed, too. Just a hunch.
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Unlike alcoholism, I think only a small minority believe that homosexuality and transgenderism is destructive, unhealthy, abnormal behavior.
After decades of conditioning media consumers to ignore their natural disgust response to disgusting behavior they must have decided their methods weren't succesful enough. Having a fake and gay media wasn't enough. A fake and gay government was needed.
The perverts now have taken total control of public education and are teaching pornographic, perverted anti-morality to grade school/preteen children. Lowering the disgust threshold when still a child is much easier than training adults with a healthy normal sex response.
We have institutionalized the grooming of children with sexual pervisity and pedophilia. Our tax dollars at work it's an abomonation.
Humans are sheep. Your "majority" is going along to get along just as they have been programmed.
Normalizing/legalizing sex with underage children is next, if the country doesn't implode naturally or get destroyed first.
Ideas have consequences and we shouldn't be surprised when they are brought to their natural conclusions.
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Even some folks on the left understand the impending disaster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8BRdwgPChQ
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After decades of conditioning media consumers to ignore their natural disgust response to disgusting behavior they must have decided their methods weren't succesful enough. Having a fake and gay media wasn't enough. A fake and gay government was needed.
The perverts now have taken total control of public education and are teaching pornographic, perverted anti-morality to grade school/preteen children. Lowering the disgust threshold when still a child is much easier than training adults with a healthy normal sex response.
We have institutionalized the grooming of children with sexual pervisity and pedophilia. Our tax dollars at work it's an abomonation.
Humans are sheep. Your "majority" is going along to get along just as they have been programmed.
Normalizing/legalizing sex with underage children is next, if the country doesn't implode naturally or get destroyed first.
Ideas have consequences and we shouldn't be surprised when they are brought to their natural conclusions.
I have my doubts about it being a majority. I think the politicians and big corporations are acceding to the demands of a loud and funded minority. I suspect the failure of many is in not seeing it as a societal danger like they should along with others who recognize it, but don't know what to do about it other than try to vote the politicians out of office.
There seems to be a lot more attempts by people to get active in school boards lately (at least in the news). We will see where that goes.
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In case anyone had any doubts on the insanity of all of this.
Here’s something: a white British “influencer” named Oli London now identifies as Korean, and has had multiple plastic surgeries to look like a member of Korean boy band BTS.
Oli London
@OliLondonTV
Being Transexual is the same as being TRANSRACIAL because you are born in the wrong body.
White British ‘influencer’ identifies as non-binary and also Korean, says being transsexual is the same as being transracial
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/06/28/white-british-influencer-identifies-as-non-binary-and-also-korean-says-being-transsexual-is-the-same-as-being-transracial/
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In case anyone had any doubts on the insanity of all of this.
White British ‘influencer’ identifies as non-binary and also Korean, says being transsexual is the same as being transracial
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/06/28/white-british-influencer-identifies-as-non-binary-and-also-korean-says-being-transsexual-is-the-same-as-being-transracial/
The western world has lost the ability to see and speak the truth (reality).
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Count me out of all this goofy misgendering. I've got a good grip on what I am. :rofl:
Woody
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The western world has lost the ability to see and speak the truth (reality).
“Qui Verbum Dei contempserunt, eis auferetur etiam verbum hominis.”*
(*the banquet at Belbury, page 325 (http://www.samizdat.qc.ca/arts/lit/PDFs/HideousStrength_CSL.pdf))
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The western world has lost the ability to see and speak the truth (reality).
I gotta wonder what some of these kids are learning when they grow up. It sounds like not very much.
I also wonder who is paying for those surgeries.
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I also wonder who is paying for those surgeries.
In some cases, the VA: https://www.militarytimes.com/veterans/2021/06/19/va-to-offer-gender-surgery-to-transgender-vets-for-the-first-time/
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I'm actually not sure what my comeback line would be if someone were to ask me, "what my pronouns are". I'm thinking I'd either be dumbfounded and at a loss for words, or else coming back with an offensive, smartass reply.
Oh. You mean speaking the truth. :facepalm: :old:
Woody
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https://babylonbee.com/news/preferred-pronouns-thouthine-explains-kjv-onlyist
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In some cases, the VA: https://www.militarytimes.com/veterans/2021/06/19/va-to-offer-gender-surgery-to-transgender-vets-for-the-first-time/
I thought the linked person was in Britain, but mainly "someone else". If they had to pay for it themselves, I doubt they would have done it.
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me: I'm against abortion
her: you're a man, your opinion is moot, men can't have babies.
me: a man in the UK had a baby.
her: don't be stupid.
me: go ahead, look it up for yourself.
her: that's a dude!
me: wait, you're against transgender rights?
her: blocked me on facebook lol
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“Qui Verbum Dei contempserunt, eis auferetur etiam verbum hominis.”*
(*the banquet at Belbury, page 325 (http://www.samizdat.qc.ca/arts/lit/PDFs/HideousStrength_CSL.pdf))
Enlighten me. I know a little Altar-Boy Latin and that made no sense.
Google translate was no help: "The word that God ignored them away to the man."
REF? Besides the page citation.
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As everything unravels and panic ensues, the magician Merlin cries out the book's greatest line: "Qui Verbum Dei contempserunt, eis auferetur etiam verbum hominis — They who have despised the Word of God, from them even the word of man shall be taken away." It is the curse of Babel cast upon them.
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Enlighten me. I know a little Altar-Boy Latin and that made no sense.
Google translate was no help: "The word that God ignored them away to the man."
REF? Besides the page citation.
It's from That Hideous Strength by CS Lewis.
That novel was practically prophetic in its foreshadowing of the type of humans and their organization style that would eventually seize power in the west.
Our institutions have built in structural evil, but the evil doesn't have anything to do with patriarchy or being "white".
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^,^^
Oh, but of course. I should have known. :eyeroll: :face-palm: :derisive grin:
So thanks.
I'm outta this one for the simple reason that I can't understand how gayness can be destructive, since I've known a couple of openly gay people over the decades, and only one was a little over the top, destruction-wise.
And I never heard of a bunch of gays hanging a straight guy on a fence, beating him up, and leaving him to die.
As far as my simple 82 year old mind can tell, most of the destructiveness I've seen has been from passionately self-righteous straights, not from passionately self-righteous gays.
Maybe I'm just getting senile.
Live and let live.
Terry, 230RN
REF (one of many):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Shepard
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Sort of a straw man there Terry.
Should I judge all gay men by the homosexual rape statistics in our jail system? How about judging them for the AIDs crises that can be laid at the feet of their widespread, rampant promiscuity?
How about I don't set up the straw man, but still look clear eyed at the reality?
Did you watch the video from Camille Paglia I posted?
Even some folks on the left understand the impending disaster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8BRdwgPChQ
This isn't about hating my friends gay son or my gay co-workers etc. It's not about hate at all actually. It's about what is good and true and how to actually "do" civilization.
Bringing up violence against gay folks is a non sequitur.
There is a bigger picture and many folks are swept up in the systemic evil.
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It's from That Hideous Strength by CS Lewis.
That novel was practically prophetic in its foreshadowing of the type of humans and their organization style that would eventually seize power in the west.
Our institutions have built in structural evil, but the evil doesn't have anything to do with patriarchy or being "white".
I read that trilogy in high school. I bought a new set not that long ago along with other classics like Brave New World, Fahrenheit 451, and Animal Farm. I need to put it in the queue to read again.
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It's from That Hideous Strength by CS Lewis.
That novel was practically prophetic in its foreshadowing of the type of humans and their organization style that would eventually seize power in the west.
Our institutions have built in structural evil, but the evil doesn't have anything to do with patriarchy or being "white".
The Screwtape Letters read like the platform of the Democrat party.
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The Screwtape Letters read like the platform of the Democrat party.
Where do you think they got their ideas?
It looks to me as if the DNC gets all of their ideas and plans from apocryphal stories that are meant as dire warnings but they take them as "how-to" manuals.
1984, Animal Farm, Idiocracy... The list is endless.
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Enlighten me. I know a little Altar-Boy Latin and that made no sense.
Google translate was no help: "The word that God ignored them away to the man."
REF? Besides the page citation.
The source I linked to translated it in a footnote. "They that have despised the word of God, from them shall the word of
man also be taken away."
I'll trust Lewis' translation over Google's.
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The Great Divorce is really good also.
I owned the paperback for nearly two decades before I finally read it! It was part of a paperback box set.
It was a great read, I kicked myself for not picking it up sooner.
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The Great Divorce is really good also.
I owned the paperback for nearly two decades before I finally read it! It was part of a paperback box set.
It was a great read, I kicked myself for not picking it up sooner.
Some group in Seattle put some of those stories into short film form: The Great Divorce Project (http://projecttgd.com/). Some pretty good, some not so good. Some faithful, others a more loose interpretation.
I like this one: The Great Divorce: The Intellectual (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10vnY-YR2JI). And this one I can't really identify from my recollection of the book, but it's good too: The Great Divorce: The Moralist (https://youtu.be/Pa-nrDz5P2Y).
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I'm outta this one for the simple reason that I can't understand how gayness can be destructive, since I've known a couple of openly gay people over the decades, and only one was a little over the top, destruction-wise.
And I never heard of a bunch of gays hanging a straight guy on a fence, beating him up, and leaving him to die.
As far as my simple 82 year old mind can tell, most of the destructiveness I've seen has been from passionately self-righteous straights, not from passionately self-righteous gays.
Terry,
I also don't think homosexuals and transgenders are a threat (at least in and of themselves). Even violent groups like BLM and Antifa are not really a threat - by themselves. They are only people that more powerful leftists use as tools. Black/homosexual rights (both real and imaginary) are tools the Left uses. Most of the people pushing leftist social agenda items are straight and white. Some are true believers, but not all.
A lot of conservatives make the mistake of thinking that it's the homosexuals/blacks/etc that are doing this to us (whatever "this" is), and they verbally attack those groups. So I don't blame you, or anyone else, for thinking that conservatives perceive these groups as being primarily responsible/culpable.
In reality, social issues are used to paint people as bigots, discrediting them, and enforcing Leftist policies by intimidation. If you can be canceled for not baking a gay cake, you can also expect to be canceled for disagreeing with the $15 minimum wage. They're also used to disrupt and destabilize our culture - not by turning people gay, but by introducing doubt about the validity of our culture and nation, and morality and reality in general. The most obvious lies the Leftmedia tell these days are centered on race, sex, and gender.
So the point is, minority groups are just caught in the middle here. It's not about exalting or attacking them. It's about the Left using them as tools against America and Americans.
As for Matthew Shepard, the source you cited acknowledges that there's significant doubt he was killed because of his sexual orientation, and it doesn't exactly present much evidence the murderers were driven by self-righteous heterosexism. Maybe wounded male pride...
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It's from That Hideous Strength by CS Lewis.
That novel was practically prophetic in its foreshadowing of the type of humans and their organization style that would eventually seize power in the west.
Our institutions have built in structural evil, but the evil doesn't have anything to do with patriarchy or being "white".
Yep. I should have been more explicit in my reference, but odd phrases from obscure SF novels I've read over the years often bubble up through the midden of memories.
I've picked up a copy of That Hideous Strength to re-read it. Probably 45 years on from the first time. More experience, different perspective. Thought it would be useful.
It is "Abolition of Man", in fictional form.
One thing I was listening to on THS, made the comment that this was more of C. S. Lewis writing a Charles Williams (https://www.charleswilliamssociety.org.uk/) novel, than one influenced by his friend Tolkien. This seems certainly true. Who but Williams would bring Merlin and the successor of Arthur into modern England? (Never read Charles Williams? I suggest "Descent into Hell" or "All Hallows Eve". E-texts are out there in the Interwebz. )
As everything unravels and panic ensues, the magician Merlin cries out the book's greatest line: "Qui Verbum Dei contempserunt, eis auferetur etiam verbum hominis — They who have despised the Word of God, from them even the word of man shall be taken away." It is the curse of Babel cast upon them.
"It was Merlin who brought release to both. He had left the dining
room as soon as the curse of Babel was well fixed upon the enemies.
No one had seen him go. Wither had once heard his voice calling
loud and intolerably glad above the riot of nonsense, ' Qui Verbum
Dei contempserunt, eis auferetur etiam verbum hominis .'"
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Getting violent
Woman reports a naked man in the spa's women section and protests and counter protests fire up.
Sounds like she IDed his gender just fine.
Literal dumpster fire: Mostly peaceful protesters surround spa where a woman complained about a naked trans woman; Updated with more fighting!
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/07/03/literal-dumpster-fire-mostly-peaceful-protesters-surround-spa-where-a-woman-complained-about-a-naked-trans-woman/