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Title: Stupid people #8,937
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 17, 2022, 12:57:55 AM
People build houses on barrier islands, and then wonder why storms damage the houses.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/coastal-storm-washes-away-outer-banks-homes-leaves-residents-and-visitors-on-edge/1187178

There shouldn't BE any houses on barrier islands. Just like there shouldn't be permanent structures in flood plains -- like New Orleans.
Title: Re: Stupid people #8,937
Post by: HankB on May 17, 2022, 08:33:04 AM
People build houses on barrier islands, and then wonder why storms damage the houses.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/coastal-storm-washes-away-outer-banks-homes-leaves-residents-and-visitors-on-edge/1187178

There shouldn't BE any houses on barrier islands. Just like there shouldn't be permanent structures in flood plains -- like New Orleans.
NOLA was a Republican (or maybe Trump) plot. Who else but the GOP is evil enough to build a city on the coast below sea level, surround it with levees rated to stop a Cat 3 storm in an area subject to Cat 4 & 5 hurricanes . . . and then fill it with Democrats?
Title: Re: Stupid people #8,937
Post by: MechAg94 on May 17, 2022, 09:53:08 AM
People build houses on barrier islands, and then wonder why storms damage the houses.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/coastal-storm-washes-away-outer-banks-homes-leaves-residents-and-visitors-on-edge/1187178

There shouldn't BE any houses on barrier islands. Just like there shouldn't be permanent structures in flood plains -- like New Orleans.
It is the global warming.  Storms didn't used to damage home on barrier islands.  Must be the climate change.
Title: Re: Stupid people #8,937
Post by: lee n. field on May 17, 2022, 11:32:19 AM
Texas guy I knew, way back in the day, told me about the cycle of rich folks building houses on Padre Island.
Title: Re: Stupid people #8,937
Post by: K Frame on May 17, 2022, 11:55:00 AM
You think climate change busting down your beach house is bad?

Climate change is expanding the reach of diseases such as Leishmaniasis.

Title: Re: Stupid people #8,937
Post by: 230RN on May 17, 2022, 12:12:38 PM
https://youtu.be/em6FaXaWyWI

Building on the edge of a cliff.  Another example of short-sightedness.

Video-search for Pacifica, CA for more. There are a couple of dramatic drone videos surveying the continual erosion of the cliffs and loss of property.
Sample:

https://youtu.be/VEzLdDNy4tY

It's like setting up camp on a river bank.  Against the Prudent Rules of Woodsmanship.

Title: Re: Stupid people #8,937
Post by: RocketMan on May 17, 2022, 02:53:20 PM
https://youtu.be/em6FaXaWyWI

Building on the edge of a cliff.  Another example of short-sightedness.

Video-search for Pacifica, CA for more. There are a couple of dramatic drone videos surveying the continual erosion of the cliffs and loss of property.
Sample:

https://youtu.be/VEzLdDNy4tY

It's like setting up camp on a river bank.  Against the Prudent Rules of Woodsmanship.

And of course, there is the expectation on the part of the cliff dwellers that .gov needs to fix the problem or bail them out, or both.
Title: Re: Stupid people #8,937
Post by: Bogie on May 17, 2022, 03:22:24 PM
Will Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine help with anything?
Title: Re: Stupid people #8,937
Post by: K Frame on May 17, 2022, 04:52:18 PM
Will Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine help with anything?

Yeah, it will help you identify Fauchi loving liberals...
Title: Re: Stupid people #8,937
Post by: MillCreek on May 17, 2022, 08:11:59 PM
People build houses on barrier islands, and then wonder why storms damage the houses.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/coastal-storm-washes-away-outer-banks-homes-leaves-residents-and-visitors-on-edge/1187178

There shouldn't BE any houses on barrier islands. Just like there shouldn't be permanent structures in flood plains -- like New Orleans.

Or houses where there are tornados, earthquakes, or wildfires.  That should pretty much account for everything.
Title: Re: Stupid people #8,937
Post by: MechAg94 on May 17, 2022, 10:27:23 PM
Or houses where there are tornados, earthquakes, or wildfires.  That should pretty much account for everything.
True.  People moved into places like New Orleans long before there was anyone around to bail them out or even help them survive.  The entire Gulf Coast is a potential hurricane target.  That is why places like my home town are behind levees and have other preparations in place even if we recognize that a really big one will defeat a lot of those precautions.
Title: Re: Stupid people #8,937
Post by: Boomhauer on May 18, 2022, 05:14:59 AM
The state park I last worked at was on a barrier island. For most of my childhood they had both state park and private cabins (about 15 and 10) on the cabin side. By the time I was an adult all but three of the private cabins were gone and all of the state park cabins had gone also. The leases only granted the existing lots and the cabin owners all banded together and sued to try to get the state to grant them new ones. It didn’t work out for them.
Title: Re: Stupid people #8,937
Post by: K Frame on May 18, 2022, 07:26:28 AM
There's a non-profit that's now issuing wildfire ratings for every home in the United States.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-wildfire-risk-maps-home-search-data/
Title: Re: Stupid people #8,937
Post by: MillCreek on May 18, 2022, 09:16:31 AM
There's a non-profit that's now issuing wildfire ratings for every home in the United States.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-wildfire-risk-maps-home-search-data/

Well, this puts some more clarity on the increase in my homeowners' insurance.
Title: Re: Stupid people #8,937
Post by: Pb on May 18, 2022, 09:51:29 AM

There shouldn't BE any houses on barrier islands.

Well, fishing shacks maybe...
Title: Re: Stupid people #8,937
Post by: 230RN on May 20, 2022, 08:10:16 AM
The smartest thing with the cliff dwellers was to dump huge rocks at the bottom to reduce undercutting from the waves.  But the long term geological processes involve rounding and flattening from the top anyhow, so it's a long term lost cause no matter how you look at it.

I noticed there must have been a change in zoning around here because in the last couple of years they started  building large homes right on the edge of the river.   Violates a precept of woodsmanship I cited above:  don't set up camp too close to the creek.

But... people...

I'm reminded of the guy who refused to evacuate from the Mt. St. Helen's area.  He and his cats would stick it out.

I felt sorry for his cats.

Terry, 230RN

REF:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/one-man-refused-to-leave/

"The man (Harry R. Truman) who survived the torpedoing of a troopship off Ireland in World War I, now lies buried in his home with his favorite cats beneath hundreds of feet of mud, ash and rocks."

Title: Re: Stupid people #8,937
Post by: WLJ on May 20, 2022, 10:01:52 AM

I'm reminded of the guy who refused to evacuate from the Mt. St. Helen's area.  He and his cats would stick it out.

I felt sorry for his cats.

Terry, 230RN

REF:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/one-man-refused-to-leave/

"The man (Harry R. Truman) who survived the torpedoing of a troopship off Ireland in World War I, now lies buried in his home with his favorite cats beneath hundreds of feet of mud, ash and rocks."

I remember feeling the same way. He choose to be there despite the warnings, the cats didn't.