Armed Polite Society

Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Ben on July 19, 2022, 05:32:39 PM

Title: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: Ben on July 19, 2022, 05:32:39 PM
Biden is declaring a climate emergency tomorrow and launching new EOs.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/07/19/quite-insane-climate-advocate-ryan-maue-takes-biden-and-his-possible-national-climate-emergency-apart-in-thread/
Title: Reported Biden will be signing climate EOs
Post by: WLJ on July 19, 2022, 05:35:05 PM
Reported to be set to declare a climate emergency as early as tomorrow and start signing EOs after the climate bill was shot down congress.

Quote
    President Biden to declare a national "climate emergency" to fight global warming.

    With the climate agenda stalled in Congress, the White House is being urged by climate activists to take unilateral and authoritarian actions. https://t.co/QfYfPIsXva

    — Ryan Maue (@RyanMaue) July 19, 2022
Quote
    In a blueprint, the Center for Biological Diversity outlined executive actions under a "climate emergency"

    Halt crude oil exports
    Stop oil and gas drilling
    Restrict international trade and private investment in fossil fuels
    Order defense industry to ramp up clean energy tech pic.twitter.com/tEa6xTuHuW

    — Ryan Maue (@RyanMaue) July 19, 2022
'Quite insane’ –> Climate Advocate Ryan Maue takes Biden and his possible ‘national climate emergency’ APART in thread
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/07/19/quite-insane-climate-advocate-ryan-maue-takes-biden-and-his-possible-national-climate-emergency-apart-in-thread/

Reports say President Joe Biden is going to issue climate executive orders Wednesday
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/07/19/reports-say-president-joe-biden-is-going-to-issue-climate-executive-orders-wednesday/

$10 gas here we come
Title: Re: Reported Biden will be signing climate EOs
Post by: WLJ on July 19, 2022, 05:35:42 PM
Delete this. Ben posted the same while I was typing.
Title: Re: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: Ben on July 19, 2022, 05:41:09 PM
Merged.  =)
Title: Re: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: WLJ on July 19, 2022, 05:41:55 PM
You also merged my delete request after realizing you beat me to the punch  :facepalm: :rofl:
Title: Re: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: dogmush on July 19, 2022, 05:42:49 PM
Quote
In a blueprint, the Center for Biological Diversity outlined executive actions under a "climate emergency"

    Halt crude oil exports
    Stop oil and gas drilling
    Restrict international trade and private investment in fossil fuels

Well those aught to finish any shot the Dems had for the mid-terms.  As long as they've been in DC I would have expected the Biden team to be a little more savvy, and do this next winter.
Title: Re: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: WLJ on July 19, 2022, 05:55:35 PM
Well those aught to finish any shot the Dems had for the mid-terms.  As long as they've been in DC I would have expected the Biden team to be a little more savvy, and do this next winter.

I'm hoping that list is just some whacked out wish list. They can't be that crazy, can they?
Title: Re: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: Ben on July 19, 2022, 06:00:35 PM
I'm hoping that list is just some whacked out wish list. They can't be that crazy, can they?

He (or his handlers) seem to be listening to his 20something White House cool kids telling him what everyone on twitter wants. Whether the White House learns from this after their NOV massacre or not is anyone's guess.
Title: Re: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: dogmush on July 19, 2022, 06:02:11 PM
I'm not even sure what would happen.  The US is a net exporter of petroleum products but a net importer of crude oil.  If we all of a sudden just stopped exporting crude, there would be a sudden surplus in crude oil available in the US, at least until we adjusted our imports down.  Not all crude is the same vis a vis refining, but at least our domestic market might go down a little bit.

The world market would likely go batshit for a month or two.

source: https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-products/imports-and-exports.php
Title: Re: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: dogmush on July 19, 2022, 06:03:19 PM
He (or his handlers) seem to be listening to his 20something White House cool kids telling him what everyone the bots on twitter wants. Whether the White House learns from this after their NOV massacre or not is anyone's guess.

FIFY.  ;)


Wait!  Holy *expletive deleted*it, is THIS how the AI's take over?  Just feed Biden bot scripts?
Title: Re: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 19, 2022, 07:31:12 PM
Um, isn't gas expensive enough already? 25th amendment time?
Title: Re: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: WLJ on July 19, 2022, 07:37:54 PM
Um, isn't gas expensive enough already?

The dem elites: Do you own an electric car yet? No? Then no.
Title: Re: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: MechAg94 on July 19, 2022, 08:03:57 PM
Considering the SC just shot down the EPA's regulation based on having no legislative authority, I can't see them doing anything but shooting this down.  Is there any executive authority to do what was posted?   


All the leftists complained about Trump's executive orders (Obama also mostly), but they were all within the framework of existing executive authority as far as I know.   
Title: Re: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: WLJ on July 19, 2022, 08:06:20 PM
Considering the SC just shot down the EPA's regulation based on having no legislative authority, I can't see them doing anything but shooting this down.  Is there any executive authority to do what was posted?   


How long will that take? Bet not before gas hits $10 and crashes the economy triggering The Great Depression ][ which has been the goal of many leftists since America needs to be punished and could lead to the establishment of a Soviet style state. With them in charge of course.
Title: Re: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: MechAg94 on July 19, 2022, 08:26:04 PM
How long will that take? Bet not before gas hits $10 and crashes the economy triggering The Great Depression ][ which has been the goal of many leftest since America needs to be punished and could lead to the establishment of a Soviet style state. With them in charge of course.
Lawsuits from states would be filed before the end of the day.  Unless there was something in the law allowing this, I would expect at least one federal judge to issue an injunction in days not weeks.  The SC may even hear the case pretty quick. 

I could be wrong, but if the orders are as crazy as above, I can see it happening.
Title: Re: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: MechAg94 on July 19, 2022, 08:27:34 PM
One of the Twitchy links has a link to the White House saying they won't be declaring a climate emergency tomorrow.  Not sure if that means they are backing off or what. 


Given the inexperience of some of the people in the White House, this could have been some really badly done trial balloon. 

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/07/19/reports-say-president-joe-biden-is-going-to-issue-climate-executive-orders-wednesday/
Update at the bottom.
Title: Re: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: WLJ on July 19, 2022, 08:38:13 PM
One of the Twitchy links has a link to the White House saying they won't be declaring a climate emergency tomorrow.  Not sure if that means they are backing off or what. 


Given the inexperience of some of the people in the White House, this could have been some really badly done trial balloon. 

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/07/19/reports-say-president-joe-biden-is-going-to-issue-climate-executive-orders-wednesday/
Update at the bottom.

"This week"
Quote
White House says it won’t declare climate emergency this week

Title: Re: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: WLJ on July 19, 2022, 08:43:44 PM
Trying to not go around wearing a tin-foil hat but this admin is making that harder and harder every day.
I need to lay off the news for a week or so and chill out but at this point I'm afraid to with these jokers.
Title: Re: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: Jim147 on July 19, 2022, 10:12:56 PM
Trying to not go around wearing a tin-foil hat but this admin is making that harder and harder every day.
I need to lay off the news for a week or so and chill out but at this point I'm afraid to with these jokers.

The hat is bad enough but with these triple digit temps for weeks wearing this tinfoil suit is going to suck.
Title: Re: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: French G. on July 19, 2022, 10:23:36 PM
Don't blame Biden, blame congress and us. Congress abdicated its duties many times in the last few decades, a big one of which is treaties. Paris climate is a treaty in all but name. Same with Iran nuke deal. A real congress would lock down everything until treaties were properly routed. A real citizenry should have already been at torches, pitchforks, and lamppost level. Biden is just doing what we have tacitly approved.
Title: Re: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: WLJ on July 19, 2022, 10:42:31 PM
The hat is bad enough but with these triple digit temps for weeks wearing this tinfoil suit is going to suck.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/x383/WLJohnson1/En1yxr6XEAEiysk.jpg)
Title: Re: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: Pb on July 20, 2022, 12:45:08 PM
Why in the world does the executive branch have power to do any of this crap?

Frankly, why in the world does the federal government have the power to do most of this at all?
Title: Re: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: WLJ on July 20, 2022, 12:55:11 PM
Why in the world does the executive branch have power to do any of this crap?

Frankly, why in the world does the federal government have the power to do most of this at all?

Because We The People haven't done a good old fashion tar and feather donkey ride out of town for far too long.
Title: Re: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: 230RN on July 21, 2022, 07:43:34 AM
Gas prices, sure...

But there's also pharmaceuticals, paint and varnish (and all kinds of constuction materials), plastics, textiles, fuels for the extra electric generation capacity...

It goes way beyond just gas prices and electric cars.  Way, way beyond.

This administration has such a narrow-minded foolish immature view of reality, if it were a grown-up person, it would absolutely be declared incompetent to manage its own affairs and be protectively institutionalized.

And don't forget there's a lame duck period between the election and installation of any new legislators where the present lame duck legislators have no restrictions on their destructive idiocy.

I may start praying in an actual Church again.

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: griz on July 21, 2022, 11:16:39 AM
I just read the EO he signed.  He is giving a subsidy to a windmill company and, so help me, starting a program to pay the AC bills for poor people.  To stop climate change.  By the way, anybody else notice that when he says, "now let me be clear", it's usually less clear after he finishes the sentence?
Title: Re: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: WLJ on July 21, 2022, 11:27:01 AM
I just read the EO he signed.  He is giving a subsidy to a windmill company and, so help me, starting a program to pay the AC bills for poor people.  To stop climate change.  By the way, anybody else notice that when he says, "now let me be clear", it's usually less clear after he finishes the sentence?

Let me guess, A Chinese own company and all the parts are made in China?

And for the 2nd part, more vote buying with tax payers money.
Title: Re: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: Ben on July 21, 2022, 11:35:19 AM
I just read the EO he signed.  He is giving a subsidy to a windmill company and, so help me, starting a program to pay the AC bills for poor people.  To stop climate change.  By the way, anybody else notice that when he says, "now let me be clear", it's usually less clear after he finishes the sentence?

Come on, dude - get with the program. This is "equity". They get to blast their AC units at 68deg. You need to get rid of yours. 85deg in the house is absolutely comfortable for your demographic. Or are you some kind of racist/conservative/male or something?!?
Title: Re: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: griz on July 21, 2022, 12:10:16 PM
Come on, dude - get with the program. This is "equity". They get to blast their AC units at 68deg. You need to get rid of yours. 85deg in the house is absolutely comfortable for your demographic. Or are you some kind of racist/conservative/male or something?!?

I guess I must be, or at least I'm so old that I haven't updated my understanding of the laws pf physics.  I suppose today I learned that if we print enough money and pay for everybody's air conditioning and sign another executive order to get them to leave their windows open, the entire world will cool down to the exact correct temperature as decided by a specially appointed congressional committee, no doubt headed by Greta Thunburg.  Whew!!!  Looks as if people were worried about global warming for nothing.
Title: Re: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: 230RN on July 21, 2022, 02:57:27 PM
I guess I must be, or at least I'm so old that I haven't updated my understanding of the laws pf physics.  I suppose today I learned that if we print enough money and pay for everybody's air conditioning and sign another executive order to get them to leave their windows open, the entire world will cool down to the exact correct temperature as decided by a specially appointed congressional committee, no doubt headed by Greta Thunburg.  Whew!!!  Looks as if people were worried about global warming for nothing.

Be better if we just had all the air conditioners re-installed backwards. That way everyone could keep their windows closed.
Title: Re: Biden Declaring a Climate Emergency Wednesday, 20JUL
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 21, 2022, 04:43:25 PM
https://babylonbee.com/news/north-dakota-assassinates-dismembers-journalist-so-biden-will-let-them-drill-for-oil