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Title: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: K Frame on July 20, 2022, 07:56:14 AM
John Cleese tells Fox News Digital no comedian should be 'canceled' for a joke.

HOW DARE HE!??! HOW *expletive deleted*ing DARE HE!!!

https://www.foxnews.com/media/john-cleese-wokeness-disastrous-impact-comedy
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: Ben on July 20, 2022, 08:00:33 AM
It seems like out of everyone who fits in the big bucket of "celebrities", the comedians are the ones kind of waking up to woke, since they're suddenly finding themselves under attack by their fellow lefties. Not that all comedians are lefties, but most of them are.
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: K Frame on July 20, 2022, 08:05:36 AM
What really surprises me is that there hasn't been an absolute eruption over Blazing Saddles.
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: WLJ on July 20, 2022, 08:07:10 AM
It seems like out of everyone who fits in the big bucket of "celebrities", the comedians are the ones kind of waking up to woke, since they're suddenly finding themselves under attack by their fellow lefties. Not that all comedians are lefties, but most of them are.

In Cleese's case I don't think he was ever asleep on this matter. He's been warning about wokness killing comedy for several years, maybe even for a couple of decades now.
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: 230RN on July 20, 2022, 08:36:06 AM
In Cleese's case I don't think he was ever asleep on this matter. He's been warning about wokeness killing comedy for several years, maybe even for a couple of decades now.

Well, IMO, it used to be called "politically correct" before some a-hole distorted the word "awakened" into the thoughtless and all-encompasssing buzzword "woke."

Kind of a half-corollary of "if you control the language, you control the issue."

Many folks have been decrying "political correctness" for decades before that distortion became slang of the day.

I myself have likened political correctness to the march of lemmings toward the cliff.

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: dogmush on July 20, 2022, 08:53:30 AM
IIRC Monty Python's Flying Circus had a few things to say about political correctness back in the day.
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: WLJ on July 20, 2022, 08:54:41 AM
to the march of lemmings toward the cliff.

Terry, 230RN

Which just like a lot of things in the lib world was faked.

In case you don't know what I'll referring to google how Disney got those shots of lemmings going over the cliff. They really did go over the cliff, Disney left out the little detail they were driven over the cliff.
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: HankB on July 20, 2022, 08:58:17 AM
What really surprises me is that there hasn't been an absolute eruption over Blazing Saddles.
I've watched it on TV where they routinely edit out the "n-word" and other unwoke language.

I'm surprised you can still sometimes catch Aaron McGruder's comic strip based animated show The Boondocks on TV. The Uncle Ruckus in particular . . .  :rofl:
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: Brad Johnson on July 20, 2022, 09:01:39 AM
What really surprises me is that there hasn't been an absolute eruption over Blazing Saddles.

There's been a spate of "Watch Me" reviews on YouTube, many by those of other than Caucasian ethic heritage. To a person, they all proclaimed it the funniest damn thing they'd ever seen. Hard to make it offensive when the people who're supposed to be offended are doubled over in laughter.

Brad
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: K Frame on July 20, 2022, 09:01:53 AM
I've watched it on TV where they routinely edit out the "n-word" and other unwoke language.

I'm surprised you can still sometimes catch Aaron McGruder's comic strip based animated show The Boondocks on TV. The Uncle Ruckus in particular . . .  :rofl:

It depends on what channel you watch it on whether it's been edited or not. It was on Sundance or a similar channel a year or so ago and it wasn't edited.
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: WLJ on July 20, 2022, 09:05:34 AM
There's been a spate of "Watch Me" reviews on YouTube, many by those of other than Caucasian ethic heritage. To a person, they all proclaimed it the funniest damn thing they'd ever seen. Hard to make it offensive when the people who're supposed to be offended are doubled over in laughter.

Brad

Seems like most SJWs who scream this or that should be banned because it's offensive to insert POC group are whites who feel it's their duty to be offended for them. Meanwhile most POC couldn't care less.
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 20, 2022, 12:53:19 PM
I've watched it on TV where they routinely edit out the "n-word" and other unwoke language.

I'm surprised you can still sometimes catch Aaron McGruder's comic strip based animated show The Boondocks on TV. The Uncle Ruckus in particular . . .  :rofl:

Lot of that stuff on YouTube, but I guess that may be harder to police. I recently watched a WWII documentary that mentioned a black dog named ni**er. And, of course, there's probably more than one video on YouTube of "I Want My MTV," (includes the word "fa**ot). Neither words were censored on the videos I saw.
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: WLJ on July 20, 2022, 12:57:42 PM
And, of course, there's probably more than one video on YouTube of "I Want My MTV," (includes the word "fa**ot). Neither words were censored on the videos I saw.

Do remember seeing the new and improved ver with that edited out.
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: K Frame on July 20, 2022, 03:27:05 PM
"I recently watched a WWII documentary that mentioned a black dog named ni**er. "

Guy Gibson's pet lab.

I heard Money for Nothing this morning on I Heart Radio.

It also includes the phrase "banging on the bongos like a chimpanzee."

Horribly homophobic AND racist.
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 20, 2022, 03:48:30 PM
"I recently watched a WWII documentary that mentioned a black dog named ni**er. "

Guy Gibson's pet lab.



The very same.
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: Bogie on July 20, 2022, 03:53:39 PM
Money for Nothing was supposed to have an Archie Bunker character in it... A "working man."
 
Shows what they think of us.
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: Tuco on July 20, 2022, 04:02:08 PM
What really surprises me is that there hasn't been an absolute eruption over Blazing Saddles.
If that was supposed to be a fart joke, well played. Well played.
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: JTHunter on July 20, 2022, 04:40:10 PM
I've watched it on TV where they routinely edit out the "n-word" and other unwoke language.

I'm surprised you can still sometimes catch Aaron McGruder's comic strip based animated show The Boondocks on TV. The Uncle Ruckus in particular . . .  :rofl:

A couple of months ago, "GRIT-TV" was airing the John Wayne movie, "The Sands of Iwo Jima".  In it, there is a line where 2 men are talking about where a bottle of sake had come from.  Wayne's character was supposed to have said "He probably got it off a dead Jap."
GRIT bleeped out "Jap".
  :facepalm:
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: Big Hairy Bee on July 20, 2022, 05:09:27 PM
Lot of that stuff on YouTube, but I guess that may be harder to police. I recently watched a WWII documentary that mentioned a black dog named ni**er.

The squadron dog/mascot in the classic movie The Dam Busters.

Also used in the original Magnum PI "Did You See the Sunrise" episode.  I have the DVDs--I don't know if the streaming options use it.(https://static.tvmaze.com/uploads/images/large_landscape/27/69876.jpg)

Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 20, 2022, 06:38:46 PM
The squadron dog/mascot in the classic movie The Dam Busters.

Also used in the original Magnum PI "Did You See the Sunrise" episode.  I have the DVDs--I don't know if the streaming options use it.(https://static.tvmaze.com/uploads/images/large_landscape/27/69876.jpg)

I was under the impression the dog really existed, and was actually so named.

The  Battle of Britain also has a black lab, owned by Michael Caine's character.
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: Big Hairy Bee on July 20, 2022, 07:38:10 PM
I was under the impression the dog really existed, and was actually so named.

The  Battle of Britain also has a black lab, owned by Michael Caine's character.

I didn't mean to imply the dog wasn't real.  I'm sure it was as the film was true to actual events.  I just remember when rewatching the movie a while back I didn't recall the dog's name.  Excellent movie, one of Peter Jackson's favorites (which he mentions remaking), and George Lucas' inspiration for the Death Star attack in Star Wars.
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: K Frame on July 21, 2022, 08:42:44 AM
"I was under the impression the dog really existed, and was actually so named."

The dog was real.

And, the dog has been cancelled, both on its gravestone AND by the BBC in a remake of The Dam Busters.

Ain't this some *expletive deleted*it.


(https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/07/ac-comp-dog-3.jpg?w=2640)
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 21, 2022, 12:52:16 PM
It's about time we dealt with these racist dogs.
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: WLJ on July 21, 2022, 12:57:08 PM
Dog can't be racist, it's black.
Wait a minute, it does have a white spot.
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: Andiron on July 21, 2022, 07:51:20 PM
A couple of months ago, "GRIT-TV" was airing the John Wayne movie, "The Sands of Iwo Jima".  In it, there is a line where 2 men are talking about where a bottle of sake had come from.  Wayne's character was supposed to have said "He probably got it off a dead Jap."
GRIT bleeped out "Jap".
  :facepalm:

I caught an ass chewing/censoring for using that same word in a discussion thread about an Arisaka type 99 every bit of 20 years ago on TFL.  Stupid *expletive deleted*ing PC culture is nothing new.

 Same dipshit mod didn't understand the disambiguation of nip/nippon.
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: 230RN on July 21, 2022, 09:30:19 PM
Which just like a lot of things in the lib world was faked.

In case you don't know what I'll referring to google how Disney got those shots of lemmings going over the cliff. They really did go over the cliff, Disney left out the little detail they were driven over the cliff.

Ah, your mother wears combat boots.

I've been aware of that for a long time.  Nevertheless, the lemmings expression has impact and meaning beyond the reality.

Like "your mother wears combat boots."

=D !

Terry

Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: kgbsquirrel on July 21, 2022, 10:01:17 PM
Ah, your mother wears combat boots.

I've been aware of that for a long time.  Nevertheless, the lemmings expression has impact and meaning beyond the reality.

Like "your mother wears combat boots."

=D !

Terry

I don't know, I think the actual reality of what happened to the lemmings is very appropriate to what is happening now: our culture is being driven off a cliff by other actors.
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: JTHunter on July 21, 2022, 11:24:20 PM
I caught an ass chewing/censoring for using that same word in a discussion thread about an Arisaka type 99 every bit of 20 years ago on TFL.  Stupid *expletive deleted*ing PC culture is nothing new.

Same dipshit mod didn't understand the disambiguation of nip/nippon.

Funny you should mention "nip".  Before he became such a star on "Happy Days" as Arnold, the restaurateur, Noriyuki "Pat" Morita (Mr. Miyagi of Karate Kid fame) had a comedy act and went by the name of the "Hip Nip".
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: Andiron on July 22, 2022, 10:36:53 PM
Funny you should mention "nip".  Before he became such a star on "Happy Days" as Arnold, the restaurateur, Noriyuki "Pat" Morita (Mr. Miyagi of Karate Kid fame) had a comedy act and went by the name of the "Hip Nip".

Guess it's okay when they say it..
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: 230RN on July 24, 2022, 07:33:49 AM
I had a finger wagged at me for saying "Jap" on line.  Maybe it's my age and recollections of the war and the atrocities, but I felt zero guilt about it.  The Japs had a history of attacking without warning.

Terry
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: Ben on July 24, 2022, 07:40:15 AM
https://youtu.be/OYOzUHnPJvU
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: 230RN on July 24, 2022, 09:38:01 AM
https://youtu.be/OYOzUHnPJvU

=D

Tsk-tsk.  A drive by link.  And from a mod, yet.  Oh, wait, "mod" is not the correct nomenclature.  I mean "Moderator."

:rofl:

(No 'ffense, jes' pokin' atcha.)

 :police:
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: Bogie on July 24, 2022, 10:33:39 AM
Mods and Rockers
 
https://youtu.be/8K5AgYw97cY
 
An obscure band called The High Numbers, which seems to have been preferred by Mods

https://youtu.be/-INQ63rnpLQ

https://youtu.be/FahLlyyIP3Q

Can you see the real me?
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: Angel Eyes on July 24, 2022, 09:53:12 PM
Mods and Rockers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jeu3iH0R_GM
 
Quote
Can you see the real me?

More like a Substitute.
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: Angel Eyes on July 24, 2022, 10:09:34 PM
Cleese is interviewed by The Babylon Bee:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASgZUd7Aelc

A conclave of the cancelled.
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 24, 2022, 10:18:39 PM
I had a finger wagged at me for saying "Jap" on line.  Maybe it's my age and recollections of the war and the atrocities, but I felt zero guilt about it.  The Japs had a history of attacking without warning.

Terry

Jap is a bad word, for some reason. Brit seems to be acceptable.  ;/
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: Andiron on July 24, 2022, 10:40:56 PM
Jap is a bad word, for some reason. Brit seems to be acceptable.  ;/

Speak for yourself, Yank  :P
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: 230RN on July 25, 2022, 01:53:01 AM
The Rape of Nanking
Unit 731
Bataan Death March

Capture that stuff including the references before it all goes away in the name of political correctness.
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: Bogie on July 25, 2022, 02:05:31 AM
I grew up in Harrodsburg, Kentucky.
 
https://kynghistory.ky.gov/Our-History/History-of-the-Guard/Pages/Harrodsburg-Tankers.

https://www.harrodsburgherald.com/2020/04/09/honoring-the-sacrifice-of-the-harrodsburg-tankers/

Sometimes the old guys would talk. They seemed old to me then, at least.
Title: Re: And just like that, John Cleese was canceled...
Post by: 230RN on July 28, 2022, 08:48:23 PM
Your first link doesn't work.  I wonder why.  Was it too critical of some group?

Like I said, capture that stuff before it becomes cleansed and purified.

Oh,pardon.  Just paranoia talking.  Pronably just a link error.