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Title: Another Gun Off the Streets!
Post by: Ben on August 22, 2022, 02:58:55 PM
The Canadian cops seem to have a passion for a very liberal definition of "gun" when talking about getting dangerous weapons off the street. BB guns, airsoft guns, toy guns, boomerangs, slingshots, and this:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FaxmOlNXEAEhL2z?format=jpg&name=small)

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/08/22/lets-all-give-thanks-to-the-toronto-police-for-getting-this-dangerous-weapon-off-the-streets-photo/
Title: Re: Another Gun Off the Streets!
Post by: WLJ on August 22, 2022, 03:33:32 PM
Obviously another one of those ghost guns I keep hearing about committing all those murders. Trigger is even stuck in the full auto fire position
Title: Re: Another Gun Off the Streets!
Post by: Devonai on August 22, 2022, 08:31:56 PM
Put it on Gunbroker, some idiot will bid $500 for it.
Title: Re: Another Gun Off the Streets!
Post by: WLJ on August 22, 2022, 09:12:27 PM
Put it on Gunbroker, some idiot will bid $500 for it.

Put a Nazi Waffenamt mark on it $5,000
Title: Re: Another Gun Off the Streets!
Post by: HankB on August 22, 2022, 09:30:06 PM
Put a Nazi nazi Waffenamt mark on it $5,000
Add the initials A.H. $10,000
Title: Re: Another Gun Off the Streets!
Post by: 230RN on August 23, 2022, 08:20:21 AM
You suppose they could get a forensically valuable test bullet out of it and match it up to some crime bullet?

Kinda looks like an RG-22, but I'm willing to be corrected.  I have a broken one around somewhere I was saving for a gun buyback.  I learned too late there was a buyback in Denver not too long ago,  Drat.

This one's missing the ejector rod:

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/mgm-content/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2018/09/14/8885727_02_rg_rohm_22_short_revolver_640.jpg)

I beat the living crap out of mine, including shooting cut-down long and long rifle rounds out of it. It broke, I assume, from hydrogen embrittlement because I chrome plated it.


Here it is... told you I beat the crap out of it (but learned a lot):

Title: Re: Another Gun Off the Streets!
Post by: dogmush on August 23, 2022, 01:57:46 PM
If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say it's one of the old H&R .32's.  The very upright hammer spur is pretty distinctive, as is the shape of the frame between the cylinder and the grip.

I found this one, which is an "American Double Action" and even appears to have broken the trigger in the same way as the OP gun.  The crown on the grips looks the same as well.

(https://images.ehive.com/accounts/3492/objects/images/1mvogjq_qn8_m.jpg)

Source: https://ehive.com/collections/3492/objects/42289/hr-arms-the-american-double-action-revolver

Another couple pics on this thread: https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/threads/the-american-double-action-32-s-w-ctge.86416/

The OP is pretty messed up though, so I am also willing to be corrected.
Title: Re: Another Gun Off the Streets!
Post by: 230RN on August 23, 2022, 08:30:00 PM
You're right about the hammer spur. Good show!
Title: Re: Another Gun Off the Streets!
Post by: WLJ on August 23, 2022, 08:35:36 PM
You're all wrong, I just checked the MSM guide to guns and it's clearly a Glock 7. You know, a porcelain gun made in Germany that doesn't show up on airport X-ray machines and it costs more than what you make in a month!"
Title: Re: Another Gun Off the Streets!
Post by: Bogie on August 23, 2022, 10:07:10 PM
What kind of cap gun is it? And how many weeks was it sitting on a reef?
Title: Re: Another Gun Off the Streets!
Post by: Boomhauer on August 23, 2022, 10:08:35 PM
Hey that’s SpongeBob’s piece
Title: Re: Another Gun Off the Streets!
Post by: HankB on August 24, 2022, 06:44:16 AM
I was thinking a starter pistol of some sort, but I think dogmush nailed it.

Glad they got it off the streets - with a new barrel, frame, hammer, trigger, grips, and internals, who knows what havoc it could cause.
Title: Re: Another Gun Off the Streets!
Post by: K Frame on August 24, 2022, 12:20:31 PM
Dogmush is 100% correct on the identification.

I knew exactly what it was the second I saw it. I've had several over the years.

In an era of cheap guns, these were pretty near the bottom. They were in direct competition with the Iver Johnson, F&W, and other solid frame double action revolvers for the title of "how cheap can we make a gun that will shoot a marginally effective cartridge?"

The answer?

CHEAP.

According to one source I just found, they were made from 1905 until 1942.

I had NO clue they were made that late. I had thought they crapped out as a model right after WW II.
Title: Re: Another Gun Off the Streets!
Post by: HankB on August 24, 2022, 01:25:36 PM
. . . . According to one source I just found, they were made from 1905 until 1942.

I had NO clue they were made that late. I had thought they crapped out as a model right after WW II.
Ummm . . . did you mean maybe you thought they crapped out right after WWI?
Title: Re: Another Gun Off the Streets!
Post by: HeroHog on August 24, 2022, 01:33:48 PM
For comparison, here is my aunt's Katrina soaked H&R .32 that I cut up before trashing it:

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fherohog.com%2Fimages%2Fguns%2F2013042502.jpg&hash=039801db23fb84e06a725db0a6e6f0829e492dff)
Title: Re: Another Gun Off the Streets!
Post by: 230RN on August 24, 2022, 01:43:00 PM
The difference between last date made and date finally sold may have given you the impression they crapped out after the war.  And during the war, there were a lot of potential buyers visiting other countries.

HeroHog, that is one effyude gun.
Title: Re: Another Gun Off the Streets!
Post by: K Frame on August 24, 2022, 08:07:08 PM
Ummm . . . did you mean maybe you thought they crapped out right after WWI?

Whoops, yes. World War I.
Title: Re: Another Gun Off the Streets!
Post by: K Frame on August 24, 2022, 08:09:30 PM
The difference between last date made and date finally sold may have given you the impression they crapped out after the war.  And during the war, there were a lot of potential buyers visiting other countries.

HeroHog, that is one effyude gun.

According to the source I saw, it said that the model was manufactured until 1942.

As in, rolling off the production lines and going to stores.

1942 was the death knell for a lot of American products, firearms and other items, as industry transitioned to a war footing.
Title: Re: Another Gun Off the Streets!
Post by: K Frame on August 24, 2022, 08:11:05 PM
For comparison, here is my aunt's Katrina soaked H&R .32 that I cut up before trashing it:

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fherohog.com%2Fimages%2Fguns%2F2013042502.jpg&hash=039801db23fb84e06a725db0a6e6f0829e492dff)

That one is a much later model -- it's chambered for .32 S&W Long. I don't think H&R started making .32 Longs until the late 1940s or early 1950s, if not later.
Title: Re: Another Gun Off the Streets!
Post by: HeroHog on August 24, 2022, 08:49:41 PM
She had it in a faux sheep skin lined soft pistol "case" which was submerged in the brackish water that flooded New Orleans and left in there FOR YEARS until I learned of it and got involved.

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fherohog.com%2Fimages%2Fguns%2FKatrinaH%2526R32_02.jpg&hash=996b92a9a379608a1ae9ef73a1b61a27ab1518cf)
Title: Re: Another Gun Off the Streets!
Post by: HankB on August 24, 2022, 11:34:48 PM
She had it in a faux sheep skin lined soft pistol "case" which was submerged in the brackish water that flooded New Orleans and left in there FOR YEARS until I learned of it and got involved.

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fherohog.com%2Fimages%2Fguns%2FKatrinaH%2526R32_02.jpg&hash=996b92a9a379608a1ae9ef73a1b61a27ab1518cf)
Perfect candidate for a "gun buy back" event.
Title: Re: Another Gun Off the Streets!
Post by: HeroHog on August 25, 2022, 08:32:23 PM
If it weren't for the fact it was loaded and ya couldn't empty it, I would have agreed with you.