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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: WLJ on September 06, 2022, 10:58:57 AM
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First trailer dropped for the Netflix production of All Quiet on the Western Front
Looks decent but I have a nagging fear they will drop some woke stuff in there somewhere. Hope I'm wrong in that fear.
Glad to see the First getting some recognition again with this and other recent movies. Wonder if the Great War series had anything to with sparking people's interest again because I don't remember hardy anything based in the First for quite a while, since maybe the 70s, and in the last few years there's been a bunch. I mean there were a few here and there but in the last few years have seen an upsurge,
All Quiet on the Western Front | Official Teaser | Netflix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFqgmaO15x4
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The imperialist corporate empire wants to send our most motivated warriors to die overseas. I'm not liking that war propaganda movies are coming out. Not that I haven't consumed them over the years myself. If Hellywood is promoting something you best beware.
It will probably be spectacular and get good reviews like recent Top Gun.
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The imperialist corporate empire wants to send our most motivated warriors to die overseas. I'm not liking that war propaganda movies are coming out. Not that I haven't consumed them over the years myself. If Hellywood is promoting something you best beware.
It will probably be spectacular and get good reviews like recent Top Gun.
Interestingly, the one Ron linked above appears to be told from the German side of the story, through the eyes of a German infantryman. I doubt it will be laden with strident nationalism and a call to arms like Stoltz Der Nation American Sniper was, or the variety of John Wayne WWII movies, or similar fodder.
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You do know All Quiet on the Western Front is a book written by a German veteran in 1928?
I've read it but it's been awhile.
There's been a few movies based on it made over the years.
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Might be a good movie to see made today since a lot of flashy movies have implied the WWI Germans were Nazis. Might be an opportunity for some to learn a little more history.
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Woke stuff I expect to see:
Germany is fighting for the liberation of colonies oppressed by Great Britain and France.
French Senegalese fighting for the French are kept in chains until liberated by the Germans.
The German high command is made up of strong xzymn of color.
The English mansplain everything.
Jews aren't just evil, they're ULTRA evil.
Germany is fighting against Israel for the establishment of a Palestinian state.
Orange Man Bad!
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Somewhat related: comparing All Quiet on the Western Front with Storm of Steel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwp7jXWSCrA
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I'll be Goddamned...
They actually have the rifles correct in some of the close ups.
Actual Gew98s.
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Another remake - seems they struggle to come up with anything new.
We'll see how it compares to the 1979 version that starred John-Boy Walton and Lt.Cmdr McHale, which I actually thought was pretty good.
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I've seen both versions.
I thought both were very good.
I'm not bummed about this being a remake. If they do it correctly, modern CGI should help them present the battlefield in ways never before possible in the 1930s and only moving towards possible in the 1970s when the second one was filmed.
The fact that they actually have the rifles represented correctly, instead of handing them anything they can find, gives me hope that they're actually taking care with how the story comes together.
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Wonder if they’ll include the group pooping scene.
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You do know All Quiet on the Western Front is a book written by a German veteran in 1928?
I've read it but it's been awhile.
There's been a few movies based on it made over the years.
I'm leery of war propaganda in general, particularly when TPTB are stoking the public to suffer or die for abstract concepts like "freedom" and "democracy" in foreign lands. Particularly when a direct obvious national concern doesn't exist.
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The imperialist corporate empire wants to send our most motivated warriors to die overseas. I'm not liking that war propaganda movies are coming out. Not that I haven't consumed them over the years myself. If Hellywood is promoting something you best beware.
I think the book is anti-war.
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I think the book is anti-war.
Read it to the 2 younger kids last year. I’d say that’s accurate.
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I'll wait for the reviews and the impact, maybe this will be a positive thing. Obviously, that's a book I skipped. Probably because it was anti-war ironically.
Sending our bravest and most loyal to country to die for the machinations of GAE will leave us with a nation of even more soy bois than we currently suffer under.
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I'll wait for the reviews and the impact, maybe this will be a positive thing. Obviously, that's a book I skipped. Probably because it was anti-war ironically.
Sending our bravest and most loyal to country to die for the machinations of GAE will leave us with a nation of even more soy bois than we currently suffer under.
Hard to imagine someone going through the hell that was the trenches and not come out of it anti-war.
A few did as history showed, cough AH cough, though
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Hard to imagine someone going through the hell that was the trenches and not come out of it anti-war.
A few did as history showed, cough AH cough, though
Hatred born of vengeance and retribution is a powerful motivator.
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True. It sure didn't make Hitler anti-war.
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Hard to imagine someone going through the hell that was the trenches and not come out of it anti-war.
A few did as history showed, cough AH cough, though
Interestingly, it did not make C.S. Lewis into a pacifist.
https://markchanski.com/2013/05/28/c-s-lewis-on-pacifism-war-the-christian-soldier-2/
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Interestingly, it did not make C.S. Lewis into a pacifist.
https://markchanski.com/2013/05/28/c-s-lewis-on-pacifism-war-the-christian-soldier-2/
There is a big difference between a just war, particularly of war in defense of home and kin, and the perpetual clown show we've been subjected to, killing millions worldwide for reasons.
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There is a big difference between a just war, particularly of war in defense of home and kin, and the perpetual clown show we've been subjected to, killing millions worldwide for reasons.
Oh. OK
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Brutal. You were warned.
Don't recall ever seeing Saint-Chamond tanks in a movie
Allied Tanks & Flamethrowers in the Frontline | All Quiet on the Western Front War Scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fewueSTMBs
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Being Netflix you can almost guarantee naked gay men, blow jobs, and naked lesbian sex.
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Everything I've seen so far in the trailers and stills indicates that they put a LOT of time into researching the equipment and clothing. The St. Chamonds appear to be armed with the proper type of 75mm gun (a bit hard to determine, you have to look at the muzzle) and with the proper Hotchkiss machine guns.
The flame throwers also look correct for a French model. As I said earlier, the German rifles are correct for the time period, too.
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Being Netflix you can almost guarantee naked gay men, blow jobs, and naked lesbian sex.
I'm really hoping that this is one of the 1 in 500 netflix originals that they don't ruin with that gratuitous stuff. The previews seem really good and I want to watch it this week.
Edit: It appears this film was made in Germany, so Netflix may not have ruined it. I have noticed that even the German language Netflix productions appear to avoid going overly woke, as audiences there won't stand for it.
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Everything I've seen so far in the trailers and stills indicates that they put a LOT of time into researching the equipment and clothing. The St. Chamonds appear to be armed with the proper type of 75mm gun (a bit hard to determine, you have to look at the muzzle) and with the proper Hotchkiss machine guns.
The flame throwers also look correct for a French model. As I said earlier, the German rifles are correct for the time period, too.
Yeah, the attention to detail is so far looking incredible.
Hope the story does follow
In the YT comments
For people wondering how they rebuilt the french Saint-Chamond tank: They took BMP1 tanks and put a Saint-Chamond "body kit" on them. Actually well made in my opinion. Only the tracks give it away when you look closely.
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From the trailer with the tanks and flamethrowers, it would seem that nobody taught the extras proper manipulation of a bolt action rifle.
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Watched it the other night. Overall a good flick. A bit slow in parts, but worth watching. The plot deviates a bit from the book and the previous 2 films, but not in a bad way.
No "woke" messaging (other than "war is horrible"), no gay sex, or any of the other tropes one associates with Netflix.
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I watched it the day it was released, I echo above.
I read the book in HS, definitely anti war because it highlighted the horrors of the first world war.
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The Drinker Recommends... All Quiet On The Western Front
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSFlDpiJs8w
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It seems like most of the negative reviews I've seen on it are because it doesn't follow the book or the original movie. That's not a big negative to me as long as it's Peter Jackson LOTR different and not Amazon Rings of Power different.
I never saw the original movie, but read the book a long, long time ago. I actually just ordered the English language book in hardcover to reread, since it seems like a classic I should have on my "books that are worth having" dead tree bookshelf. I also ordered the German language book on Kindle. I would have got that as hardcover too, but holy hell, not for $60 used. I might have one of my cousins mail me a copy from Krautland.
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I just watched it. I thought it was very good.