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Title: The Great Global Warming Swindle
Post by: Harold Tuttle on April 14, 2007, 07:17:09 PM
The Great Global Warming Swindle:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4499562022478442170

The Great Global Warming Swindle

The response to the film, The Great Global Warming Swindle, has been overwhelming, and overwhelmingly positive. As Channel Four reported in Broadcast magazine, they were inundated with phone calls following the first transmission. They calculated that the calls were 6 to 1 in favour of the film. It would be nice to claim that this was due to the film itself, but in fact the explosion of interest happened before the film went out.

The coverage of the theory of man made global warming, on TV, radio and in the press, has been, broadly speaking, fawning and uncritical. In Britain, hours and hours of programmes have been broadcast by the BBC on the subject. All of it uncritical, much of it scientifically absurd. The very fact that a serious documentary dared to challenge the orthodoxy was itself news.

Why? Why have journalists been so craven or biased? How has a theory which lacks really solid supporting evidence become an undisputable fact? What of the impressive, much talked about scientific consensus which is meant to forestall any awkward questions?

The film made a humble stab at suggesting some lines of enquiry. When the theory of man made global warming finally dies, as we believe it will, there are many important questions to be asked. About the relationship between science, the media and the rest of us. But also about scientists and science. The scare over man made global warming may prove to be the first great example in the modern Western world, when science was betrayed by scientists themselves.

We had not intended to establish an official web-site for the film. But such is the demand for more information that we have no alternative. Over the coming days and weeks we will add more information, more links, more analysis, in the hope that the site may provide some focus for those who are still able to think independently and critically on this subject.

We thank the thousands of people who have sent encouraging messages of support and to the many scientists who have helped us.

http://www.greatglobalwarmingswindle.co.uk/
Title: Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle
Post by: mountainclmbr on April 16, 2007, 05:32:07 AM
Didn't they get the memo? The debate is over.
Title: Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle
Post by: El Tejon on April 16, 2007, 05:46:12 AM
I prefer "Trojan Horse to Establish Socialism" to Swindle.
Title: Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle
Post by: mountainclmbr on April 16, 2007, 06:00:34 AM
If I recall the sequence of events properly, the Kyoto "fix" was proposed before the UN contract for the computer models was awarded. And the computer model contract was awarded to the company that produced SW that showed the greatest warming due to CO2.

The great power of socialism can even fix problems that don't exist.
Title: Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle
Post by: Harold Tuttle on April 16, 2007, 12:03:23 PM
funny thing

there was a global warming back in the 1100s
and no one knew they had to rescue the polar bears

They must of saved themselves!

imagine that
Title: Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle
Post by: MechAg94 on April 20, 2007, 07:35:10 AM
Al Gore invented the Polar Bear!  Smiley
Title: Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle
Post by: armchair warrior on April 20, 2007, 09:40:28 AM
I thought he invented the ManPigBear. laugh
Title: Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle
Post by: allmons on April 21, 2007, 03:57:21 AM
Well, Mr Gore may have invented Global Warming.
Title: Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle
Post by: MechAg94 on April 21, 2007, 04:29:04 PM
Well, that is just going full circle isn't it.  I guess Global Cooling and the New Ice Age were already taken. 
Title: Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle
Post by: Bob F. on April 22, 2007, 05:18:13 PM
Did Y'all see today's (Sunday) "Mallard Fillmore"? Went to the website but couldn't find it for y'all. Sorry.

Mallard for President!!

Bob
Title: Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle
Post by: gaston_45 on April 22, 2007, 09:13:49 PM
Here ya go Bob.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/mallard.asp
Title: Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle
Post by: Sergeant Bob on April 23, 2007, 04:40:31 AM
I knew it was Bush's fault!
Title: Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle
Post by: Desertdog on April 23, 2007, 07:43:27 AM
It just occured to me: What is the alternative to "Global Warming"?

The alternative to growing old is to die young.

So it seems, at least to me, the alternative to "Global Warming" is Global Cooling, also known as an "Ice Age".

Between these two choices, give me the Global Warming.
Title: Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle
Post by: red headed stranger on April 27, 2007, 06:29:10 AM
It is so hard to explain to some people that correlation does not equal causation. 

Climate change has happened many times before. It will continue happen.  I guess people who love big government have to prove they have a solution for everything. 
Title: Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle
Post by: MechAg94 on April 27, 2007, 07:49:10 AM
It doesn't matter what happened before.  It is happening now so it must be our fault because we have power over nature and everything and we can destroy the world if we aren't careful and...........   smiley
Title: Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle
Post by: El Tejon on April 27, 2007, 08:36:54 AM
Could not prove it in Indiana today--cold and rainy and it's April 30th!!!

Al Gore must not get to Indiana much or he would understand how full of crap he is.
Title: Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle
Post by: Sergeant Bob on April 27, 2007, 03:05:20 PM
Could not prove it in Indiana today--cold and rainy and it's April 30th!!!

Al Gore must not get to Indiana much or he would understand how full of crap he is.
April 30th? Man, you guys take that new daylight savings thing way too seriously!
Up here in Michigan its only April 27th!
Title: Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle
Post by: DustinD on April 28, 2007, 03:39:51 AM
Didn't the same thing happen over "nuclear winter?"
Title: Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle
Post by: mr.v. on April 29, 2007, 09:00:13 PM
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Wow...I'd have thought that kind of talk would be banned in Britain...
Title: Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle
Post by: El Tejon on April 30, 2007, 06:57:05 AM
Memo to self:  stop posting and talking on phone.
Title: Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle
Post by: Lennyjoe on May 07, 2007, 05:57:25 PM
Heard on CNN today that folks are blaming the tornado in Kansas on global warming.  rolleyes
Title: Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle
Post by: wacki on May 07, 2007, 10:24:04 PM
That documentary is a joke. 

It claims volcanoes produce more CO2.  Well, they don't:
http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/volcanowatch/2007/07_02_15.html

One of their key witnesses was tricked and taken out of context:
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/03/swindled-carl-wunsch-responds/

I could go on.  There are countless debunkings of this on the web.  It's kind of sad nobody in this thread has questioned the validity of this movie.
Title: Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle
Post by: Perd Hapley on May 08, 2007, 03:07:30 AM
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It's kind of sad nobody in this thread has questioned the validity of this movie.
It's a short thread.  I think it was questioned in another of our many threads on the topic. 
Title: Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle
Post by: wacki on May 08, 2007, 04:44:57 AM
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It's kind of sad nobody in this thread has questioned the validity of this movie.
It's a short thread.  I think it was questioned in another of our many threads on the topic. 

Good, if the opinions of the firearm community are going to be taken seriously we should make sure the majority of our members can at least understand the basic highschool-level and easily google-able science.  You can argue the almost completely unanimous worldwide scientific community is wrong, but many of the arguments made in that documentary are so flawed it's not even funny.
Title: Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle
Post by: Perd Hapley on May 08, 2007, 05:02:35 AM
Hmm.  This was the only other thread I could find where we actually discussed that program, and it was even shorter.  Oops. 

http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=6354.0

But we've had plenty of rousing debate about climate change in other threads.  Just look up Desertdog and scan his posts.  It seems to be his favorite topic. 
Title: Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle
Post by: Iain on May 08, 2007, 07:43:25 AM
http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=6257.25

It gets mentioned in there too.

Around here we've mostly been pretending it's Christmas Day for the last month or so.