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Title: The New Hippocratic Oath
Post by: Ben on October 11, 2022, 07:07:47 PM
The oath that graduating medical students at University of Minnesota took:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1579904917761708034

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/10/11/medical-students-swear-oath-to-honor-past-traumas-rooted-in-white-supremacy-colonialism-and-the-gender-binary/
Title: Re: The New Hippocratic Oath
Post by: WLJ on October 11, 2022, 07:14:38 PM
Calling your doctor a Witch Doctor takes on a whole new meaning since he/she/it/I'm not a biologist/etc.. may very be one now
Title: Re: The New Hippocratic Oath
Post by: MechAg94 on October 11, 2022, 08:06:07 PM
I guess Christian groups who want to pray for healing will continue to be ridiculed and marginalized. 
Title: Re: The New Hippocratic Oath
Post by: Blakenzy on October 12, 2022, 11:53:54 AM
"honor all Indigenous ways of healing that have been historically marginalized by Western medicine"

Having an open mind is essential for science but somehow it seems that trying to put at least some of those "ways of healing" into practice would cost you your license  "Oh, you just wanted me to virtue signal, not ACTUALLY do what I swore" :lol:
Title: Re: The New Hippocratic Oath
Post by: ConstitutionCowboy on October 17, 2022, 10:09:31 AM
Sounds like the Hippocratic Oath is becoming the Hypowokocratic Oath.  ;/

Woody  :old:
Title: Re: The New Hippocratic Oath
Post by: 230RN on October 17, 2022, 01:50:24 PM
So it's just the new ones, right?

I used to say political correctness will ruin this country.

I was right.
Title: Re: The New Hippocratic Oath
Post by: Tuco on October 17, 2022, 05:05:25 PM
So if I go to a Minnesota barber for 2 dozen leeches and he says "No, you need a full letting" we're good?
Title: Re: The New Hippocratic Oath
Post by: WLJ on October 17, 2022, 05:12:55 PM
Let me guess, they all graduated first in their class
Title: Re: The New Hippocratic Oath
Post by: JTHunter on October 17, 2022, 11:18:20 PM
So it's just the new ones, right?

I used to say political correctness will ruin this country.

I was right.

Yup.  :facepalm:  =(
Title: Re: The New Hippocratic Oath
Post by: HankB on October 18, 2022, 06:59:44 AM
"honor all Indigenous ways of healing that have been historically marginalized by Western medicine"

Having an open mind is essential for science but somehow it seems that trying to put at least some of those "ways of healing" into practice would cost you your license  "Oh, you just wanted me to virtue signal, not ACTUALLY do what I swore" :lol:
Try to treat me with an indigenous way of healing that has been historically marginalized by Western medicine, and you can expect to be paid in pemmican, wampum, or glass beads  instead of Western funds.
Title: Re: The New Hippocratic Oath
Post by: 230RN on October 18, 2022, 12:00:45 PM

https://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2017/10/22/mercury-was-considered-a-cure-until-it-killed-you.html

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Mercury was considered a cure — until it killed you The metal was thought to be a miracle balm, purging the body of bile. A new book, Quackery, chronicles this and other bizarre medical misfires....

For hundreds of years, mercury-containing products claimed to heal a varied and strangely unrelated host of ailments. Melancholy, constipation, syphilis, influenza, parasites — you name it, and someone swore that mercury could fix it.

And it's fairly well established that Beethoven died at 57 yo from medicinal treatment with lead compounds.

Of course, "who knew?"

Indeed.  And "who knows" today what fads are in common medical practice?
Title: Re: The New Hippocratic Oath
Post by: MechAg94 on October 18, 2022, 07:19:25 PM
https://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2017/10/22/mercury-was-considered-a-cure-until-it-killed-you.html

And it's fairly well established that Beethoven died at 57 yo from medicinal treatment with lead compounds.

Of course, "who knew?"

Indeed.  And "who knows" today what fads are in common medical practice?
Don't worry, the food and pharmaceutical industry will fund research to let you know.   =)
Title: Re: The New Hippocratic Oath
Post by: Andiron on October 18, 2022, 08:33:07 PM
https://youtu.be/nR7_AGsEztg?t=97
Title: Re: The New Hippocratic Oath
Post by: 230RN on October 19, 2022, 08:19:26 AM
^  Hilarious. But too true.

Don't worry, the food and pharmaceutical industry will fund research to let you know.   =)

Very pointed.  I once smart-assed about how doctors were as prone to fad behavior as anyone else and I got a response that they were scientists so how could that be?

I pointed out that a long time ago, they used to wear their stethoscopes with the earpieces behind their necks and the chest pieces in one of their pockets, which seemed quite practical and handy.  The way they do it now is draped over their necks with the earpieces hanging down on one side and the chestpieces hanging down on the other, which seemed quite faddish and awkward to me.  I then remarked that a  medico who carried it the old way would be laughed out of the hospital.

Now maybe there are some thinly rational reasons for the new "fad," but to me it's still a fad.

And note the time-honored choice of seeking a second.... wait for it.... "opinion."
Title: Re: The New Hippocratic Oath
Post by: MillCreek on October 19, 2022, 09:45:38 AM
^^^Whenever we have a clinician do a photo op for publicity or the like, the corporate communications people always dig up a stethoscope for the photo.  Depending on your specialty, you may use a stethoscope several times a day or never, but it seems to be one of the badges of the profession.

Edited to add: and here is an example.  A general surgeon would rarely use a stethoscope

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