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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: MillCreek on May 26, 2023, 11:14:50 PM
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https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/05/26/1178225715/can-multivitamins-improve-memory-a-new-study-shows-intriguing-results
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0002916523489046?via%3Dihub
https://alz-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/alz.12767
The positive effects were minimal. I have often thought that the majority of vitamins and supplements were not all that beneficial and just led to you producing expensive urine. Having said that, I have taken a multivitamin for decades because my diet is not always what it should be. I now take the Centrum silver for men equivalent from either Costco or Walmart, depending on what store I go to first when I need a new bottle.
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https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/05/26/1178225715/can-multivitamins-improve-memory-a-new-study-shows-intriguing-results
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0002916523489046?via%3Dihub
https://alz-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/alz.12767
The positive effects were minimal. I have often thought that the majority of vitamins and supplements were not all that beneficial and just led to you producing expensive urine. Having said that, I have taken a multivitamin for decades because my diet is not always what it should be. I now take the Centrum silver for men equivalent from either Costco or Walmart, depending on what store I go to first when I need a new bottle.
I think many vitamins and supplements have some beneficial effects - but there are a lot of hucksters making ridiculously extravagant claims out there that are so much baloney. In particular, I regard huge mega doses of even some common supplements as not just unhelpful, but potentially harmful.
I have my doubts about the guy with all the commercials on the Fox news channel who's selling freeze dried fruit and vegetable capsules as diet supplements. They don't sound bad at all, but despite the testimonials in his commercials, I'm not convinced they're as miraculous as claimed.
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Multi vitamins may slightly improve memory and slow mental decline
Too late for most of us.
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Too late for most of us.
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Really. Call me when the literature says it will reverse mental decline and sign me up!
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Not to mention also that what is recommended today may be discouraged tomorrow based on newer research. For years I took Vitamin E supplements as an antioxidant and 81 mg. aspirin as a primary preventative for heart disease. This was consistent with primary care recommendations at the time, especially for someone with lipid issues as I have. Now of course, years later, neither of these is recommended any longer, the Vitamin E due to prostate cancer and stroke risk and the aspirin due to GI bleeding risk and stroke risk. Who knows what recommendations and warnings will come out of future research.
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Not to mention also that what is recommended today may be discouraged tomorrow based on newer research. For years I took Vitamin E supplements as an antioxidant and 81 mg. aspirin as a primary preventative for heart disease. This was consistent with primary care recommendations at the time, especially for someone with lipid issues as I have. Now of course, years later, neither of these is recommended any longer, the Vitamin E due to prostate cancer and stroke risk and the aspirin due to GI bleeding risk and stroke risk. Who knows what recommendations and warnings will come out of future research.
With all the back and forth over the years regarding various supplements and whatnot to improve health or prevent detrimental health effects, I can't help but wonder if my kraut old man with the 8th grade education had it right when he always said, "Just eat a well-balanced diet, and don't overdo it". He DID make it to 94.
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Not to dive too deep in this thread but…
Consider “whole food nutrition” and the work of people like dr Royal Lee. Most “vitamins” are just synthetic and lack the nutrient complexes and cofactors to allow them to be used properly.
The junk vitamin craze started about 100 years ago. Real nutrition comes from real food.
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https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/05/26/1178225715/can-multivitamins-improve-memory-a-new-study-shows-intriguing-results
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0002916523489046?via%3Dihub
https://alz-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/alz.12767
The positive effects were minimal. I have often thought that the majority of vitamins and supplements were not all that beneficial and just led to you producing expensive urine. Having said that, I have taken a multivitamin for decades because my diet is not always what it should be. I now take the Centrum silver for men equivalent from either Costco or Walmart, depending on what store I go to first when I need a new bottle.
So do I. The one thing I noticed a long time ago was that those "over 50" multivitamins usually do not have "iron" in them which you need for your red blood cells. I use the generic "adult" formula from WalFart as it does have the iron.
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I stopped taking multivitamins, but I have forgotten why. Or maybe I never took them at all. I don't remember.
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I stopped taking multivitamins, but I have forgotten why. Or maybe I never took them at all. I don't remember.
They say your memory is the second thing to go. Can't remember what the first is.
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Vitamins and supplements work great, knowing which ones to take is very difficult.
I but my vitamins/supplements from vitamin shop/sprouts/whole foods ( all three local shops gave up yammering at me for open carry too, I kept on smiling and saying OK and doing it again )
I never use multi vitamins or major brands you see on TV.
My current regimen is DHEA and pregnenolone , D3, tongkat ali,fenugreek, saw palmetto , E, tribuplex, Solgar brand Bcomplex 100. Flaxseed powder
I plan on adding creatine and trying an experiment with N.A.C and glycine , and I need to also find a new source for the special nutritional yeast I like....
I got into higher carb last year, to wean myself off the sugar cravings I ate a lot of Quest bars and cookies .
except for bananas and larabars - zero sugar .. I drink water/black coffee or black tea.
lately I've been going more and more keto/carnivore diet - I am planning on going full carnivore for a month or two
I was bordering on 190 at Christmas now I'm roughly 170 5'8
These things do work, but finding good info is exceedingly difficult , especially around vitamins supplements - Andrew Huberman yt channel good place to start
https://youtu.be/Bll8oVpo23o
Stanford neuro scientist
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I used to take a multi-vitamin because I tend not to eat enough, even though I do eat mostly healthy food, but it started upsetting my stomach, so I dropped it. But a couple years ago the doc suggested I try to elevate both Vitamin D3 and B vitamin levels. Although blood tests showed both levels were "within normal ranges" they were on the low end of the scale. Did some research of my own first and read that higher levels can assist with a couple issues I deal with (joint and skin related). Started taking supplements for both and bloodwork shows the levels are now closer to the higher end of the normal ranges. And I FEEL better than I felt before starting them - less joint pain, more energy, lessening of skin complications, less fatigue - or less extreme fatigue anyway. And the added benefit of feeling less inclined to throat punch everyone who pisses me off.
Maybe it's a placebo effect, but as long as I feel better, who cares?
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A few years back, periodic Vitamin D testing became popular in the Seattle area due to the relative lack of sunlight and all the pasty white people of Northern Europe and Scandinavian heritage. I myself, being a pasty white person of Celtic heritage and who stays out of the sun lest I burn to a crisp, qualified. My Vitamin D levels were were on the very low end of normal and my internist recommended that I take a supplement.
So I now take an Equate multivitamin/mineral supplement for men 50+ and 5000 IU of vitamin D daily. For the past month, I have also been taking a calcium supplement to encourage the fractures from the motorcycle crash to heal up, but I will probably stop that in a month.
Edited to add: I found my latest receipts for the supplements: 7 cents per day for the Equate multivitamin/mineral and 3 cents per day for the Vitamin D. Cheap insurance, I guess.
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The positive effects were minimal. I have often thought that the majority of vitamins and supplements were not all that beneficial and just led to you producing expensive urine. Having said that, I have taken a multivitamin for decades because my diet is not always what it should be.
I concur, but I take a multivitamin and a few other supplements for my heart disease (can't hurt approach, may help) because like most Americans, I don't eat a well-balanced diet every day and there are micronutrients that your body needs to run efficiently.