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Title: Does anyone know Trump's position on Russia vs. Ukraine?
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 30, 2024, 08:14:07 PM
Seeing stories about Vlad the Impaler threatening nuclear war against the west if we don't leave him alone to annex Ukraine leaves me wondering what Trump might do if he gets reelected. Has he made any definitive statements on Russia vs. Ukraine?
Title: Re: Does anyone know Trump's position on Russia vs. Ukraine?
Post by: dogmush on March 30, 2024, 08:56:58 PM
The last definitive statement I saw from him was he wanted the fighting to stop, and he would negotiate a deal between Ukraine and Russia to make it stop.  Because it's Trump he set some ridiculous time frame he could end it in.

ETA: https://youtu.be/L07fMoafVh4?si=yJn-Wg7QEl0Exd0i

"I want everyone to stop dying. "
Title: Re: Does anyone know Trump's position on Russia vs. Ukraine?
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 30, 2024, 10:37:53 PM
Typical Trump non-answer. Thanks.

G-d, how I wish there could be a genuinely viable third-party candidate.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Trump's position on Russia vs. Ukraine?
Post by: Bogie on March 31, 2024, 02:00:00 AM
I figure he'd have a chance...
 
Companies hire management consultants to tell them what they don't want to hear.
 
Vlad has destroyed a lot of Russia's military might. And they're in quagmire status in Ukraine. It would be to everyone's best interest to cut losses on both sides.
 
But then again, there's the crazy... Vlad wants the USSR's "Florida" back.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Trump's position on Russia vs. Ukraine?
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 31, 2024, 02:05:09 AM
I figure he'd have a chance...
 

Who would have a chance ... to do what?

Explica me, por favor.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Trump's position on Russia vs. Ukraine?
Post by: HankB on March 31, 2024, 12:19:59 PM
Well, Russia didn't attack Ukraine until after Trump left office . . .

Come to think of it, Hamas didn't attack Israel until after Trump left office and Biden restored the US $$$ flowing to Gaza Hamas either.

Speculation? Trump might supply longer ranged missiles to Ukraine - long enough to hit Russian infrastructure (e.g., non-nuclear power plants) inside Russia proper, the way the Russkies are hitting Ukraine now. Even Vlad - and whoever else has some authority in Mother Russia - might see that being subjected to that kind of "tit for tat" response is more of a downside than continuing the invasion is worth.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Trump's position on Russia vs. Ukraine?
Post by: Ben on March 31, 2024, 12:38:33 PM
My absolutely amateur and lacking in knowledge opinion is that Trump really doesn't give much of a crap about either Russia or Ukraine, and will attempt a solution that helps, or at least doesn't hurt, the US, and that both Russia and Ukraine will be displeased with. Possibly getting Ukraine to concede some Russian held Eastern territory where the Ukrainian population has historically been pro-Russian, and to get Russia to pull out and give up on the rest.

Who benefits from the natural gas and other energy products from whom after that will be anybody's guess.