Post by: Sindawe on June 09, 2007, 07:05:09 AM
Any others who lucid dream, have you noted such side effects? No necessarily mechanical failures, but non-lucid dreams changing in nature?
Post by: Brad Johnson on June 09, 2007, 08:08:55 AM
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Post by: brimic on June 09, 2007, 08:09:20 AM
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Guns misfire or jam at inopportune moments
I don't think that I have experienced lucid dreaming, but in the dreams that I can remember, guns usually don't work, or I don't have ammo for them:(Post by: meinbruder on June 09, 2007, 08:44:36 AM
The mechanical failures are supposed to represent ones fears; loss of control, loss of abilities, loss of technology one takes for granted. My biggie was loss of mobility; I couldnt run away from threats or lift weapons for defense. Once I could steer the dreams I became Rambo. :)
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Post by: brimic on June 09, 2007, 11:08:42 AM
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mechanical failures are supposed to represent ones fears; loss of control, loss of abilities, loss of technology one takes for granted. My biggie was loss of mobility; I couldnt run away from threats or lift weapons for defense. Once I could steer the dreams I became Rambo. 
The creepiest dream I ever had may or may not have been lucid, it was the same nightmare theme- dark faceless figures trying to hunt me down. I remember that I couldn't get a gun or get one to work, as usual, and this time instead of running, I made a conscious decision to take them on with a large hunting knife. The actual stabbing the human-like figures in the chest and pulling the knife out and stabbign again really gave me the willies. Post by: Nick1911 on June 09, 2007, 12:24:41 PM
I remember there use to be some researchers studying it... Have there been any significant advances in the last 5 years?
Post by: Mabs2 on June 09, 2007, 12:46:49 PM
I don't have many dreams nowadays. The few I have are either downright silly, or incredibly long, detailed, and interesting. Like watching a novel in my head. I've had a few dreams that made me wake up in the morning and just go "wow" for about ten minutes.
Unfortunately, the dreams were mostly feelings and emotions and other more tangible things that I can't seem to recall now.
Post by: Moondoggie on June 09, 2007, 02:24:30 PM
I've never been able to "steer" any dreams, as far as I know. Interesting concept.
Some of my dreams are fairly easy to interpret....closely related to significant events in my life.
Strangely, I've never had a dream that was in any way akin to an...uhm, well, "adult fantasy". There have been dreams that included some normal-type intimacy, but no "fantasy" stuff.
I only have one recurring nightmare. A sister that I haven't spoken to for 25 yrs (and have no plans to speak to) gets a court order requiring me to donate a kidney to save her life. In some of them I put a round of .45 acp into one of my kidneys to put the kabosh on that plan. Yeah, we have "issues".
Post by: MattC on June 09, 2007, 05:32:51 PM
When I was a kid, I told my parents about some dream or another, and they were both surprised by the detail. Apparently neither of them dream in color, touch, taste, or smell.
I've begun wondering if the reason I always feel tired when I wake up is that I don't fully reach REM sleep, and this is why I remember my dreams so vividly. I also wake up just about every morning, alarm or no, while still dreaming. The exceptions occur when I am completely exhausted from a lack of previous sleep before I fall asleep.
Post by: Mabs2 on June 09, 2007, 06:40:04 PM
Like every dream I have, I don't go around smelling just air like normal, or feeling normal room temperatures. But when it's cold or smelly in the room/place I do notice and remember it.
My dreams are usually so realistic that I'll actually believe they took place before I put everything together (can take a few minutes in bed or a few hours of the morning).
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I only have one recurring nightmare. A sister that I haven't spoken to for 25 yrs (and have no plans to speak to) gets a court order requiring me to donate a kidney to save her life. In some of them I put a round of .45 acp into one of my kidneys to put the kabosh on that plan. Yeah, we have "issues".
I think that's a pretty hardcore dream.
Post by: roo_ster on June 09, 2007, 06:51:33 PM
Also, if I was super-exhausted, I would not dream of diddly or at least not remember diddly.
Ever since I got married & had kids, I have not had near as much/many such dreams. I am not exactly sure why: diet, stress, just so much more happening per unit of time. Another possibility is that I have taken the command to "discipline my mind*" to heart...and bed. Such discipline the subject of many Christian sermons & studies. There are some things that tell what you truly value. On what do you spend money? How is your time doled out? What do you think about?
Dreaming about myself in a singular role, in some Walter Mitty-esque scenario or in a more-real scenario where I am in danger defend myself with deadly force is not something a man married with kids ought to be doing.
Then again, it might be lack of some B-vitamin or exercise or sleep.
Post by: meinbruder on June 09, 2007, 07:59:38 PM
I remember there use to be some researchers studying it... Have there been any significant advances in the last 5 years?
Here is a website that some members might find of interest. http://www.dreamviews.com/ As I learned to control dreams as a child I never gave it much thought that it would be of any research significance. Mostly my reaction was of the gee, you cant do that? variety. My Dad talks about laying awake at night and contemplating life and conflicts with family or acquaintances, I think he is lucid dreaming and doesnt know it. Oddly, he never wakes up tired or groggy but very content for no apparent reason. Im beginning to do the same thing and I know its the dreams at work in my sub-conscious.
Moondoggie mentioned adult dreams, I remember once romancing a mermaid, at her place and one cant do that in real life, only in a dream.
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Post by: Gewehr98 on June 09, 2007, 09:00:53 PM
Now that I'm having REM sleep again, sometimes they're just plain scary - full color, Smell-O-Vision, and I'm always friggin' barefoot when I'm maneuvering in the dreams.
The week after I got my new Darth Vader Device (CPAP) I had a doozy, my two stepsons had talked me into full-sleeve tattoos on each arm, and they were 3-D dragon scales, metallic silver-blue and real as all get-out. We were joking about how they would tear you up if you rubbed against the scales the wrong direction. I don't take anything stronger than Vitamin M (Motrin), so even I was amazed.
I've never had dreams that loud and clear. Now they're happening almost every night. I would imagine the brainwaves would settle down once "REM rebound" tapered off...
Post by: S. Williamson on June 09, 2007, 09:21:45 PM
What worries me is when, in the dream, I lose control/lucidity/whatever and I don't realize it. I've woken up questioning my sanity on a couple of occasions...
Post by: zahc on June 09, 2007, 10:35:13 PM
Post by: Iain on June 10, 2007, 01:06:32 AM
In recent years those second sleep dreams have been really vivid and actually upsetting. The dreams I had in the immediate aftermath of a relationship break-up a few years back messed with head. I've begun to learn to control them, and I remember them for a while.
This morning was awesome, it involved myself and some old friends recapturing a talking human-sized tyrannosaur with human feet. Someone (a mere extra) got their head bit off in glorious technicolour.
Post by: vernal45 on June 10, 2007, 02:10:36 AM
Post by: S. Williamson on June 10, 2007, 11:46:20 AM
From that point on, (literally) use your imagination. It's your subconscious mind creating a situation and environment--your imagination can "tweak" it in any possible way (and since it isn't reality, all the impossible ways, too).
I've kayaked away from charging T-Rexes in upstate Sasketchewan, visited Pluto, made myself impervious to bullets, flown at will, even reversed a "falling dream" to where I was rushing upward.
It's a lot of fun if you want it to be.
Wierdest thing for me, though, is that I cannot read books. I've had lucid dreams where I've got a huge book sitting right in front of me, but I can't read a single letter on the pages.
Signs and everything else come out fine, but not books.
Post by: Modifiedbrowning on June 10, 2007, 05:11:09 PM
Post by: Mabs2 on June 10, 2007, 06:03:35 PM
Post by: Nick1911 on June 10, 2007, 06:30:35 PM
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Wow, I have the same thing. Every other day or so I'll experience something that I can swear I've dreamed before...but I don't remember the dream until the event is happening. Little silly crap, like my dad talking to someone across the room and unknowingly setting a can directly on top of a coin. I was sitting at the table, and as soon as he started talking I started going "this is familiar..." then he set the can down and bam...weird stuff.
I do this as well. I don't it's some kind of Deja Vu, but I recall seeing the same sequence in my dream at some point.
Post by: wmenorr67 on June 10, 2007, 06:50:27 PM
Post by: S. Williamson on June 10, 2007, 10:34:01 PM
Same's happened here, but always, always with benign stuff. I "remember" scenery from dreams when I see it in waking life. The flow of a conversation, and so on.
I wonder if anyone with a photographic memory can try lucidly dreaming, and see if they can accurately predict something.
Post by: LadySmith on June 11, 2007, 02:59:21 AM
I had my first lucid dream a couple of weeks ago. All I did was change a TV channel by thinking about it.
Post by: client32 on June 11, 2007, 04:40:21 AM
As far as side effects in the real life, I don't know that I've experienced anything like you have described. I guess I have been able to tell the difference between a lucid dream and real life. Now the realistic dreams I have had that weren't lucid are a different story.
Post by: Mabs2 on June 11, 2007, 05:01:57 AM
Same's happened here, but always, always with benign stuff. I "remember" scenery from dreams when I see it in waking life. The flow of a conversation, and so on.
Yes, exactly. That's a better way of putting it. Weird stuff.
Post by: Chris on June 12, 2007, 04:30:44 AM
Oh, as for the gun thing, every time I have a dream with one of my guns jamming, misfiring, etc. I take it as a subconscious reminder to put in some range time, clean and lube the guns, and get new ammo in the mags that I now know function fine. not exactly a good scientific response to a dream, but there are a lot worse things I could do...
