Armed Polite Society

Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Ben on July 23, 2007, 07:58:03 AM

Title: Walmart Starts its Own Intelligence Agency
Post by: Ben on July 23, 2007, 07:58:03 AM
Interesting.

---------------------------------
http://www.govexec.com/features/0707-15/0707-15buzz.htm

 IN EVERY ISSUE The Buzz
letters@govexec.com Government Executive July 15, 2007

/features/0707-15/0707-15buzz.htm
Private Spies

It turns out that Uncle Sam isn't the only one watching out for terrorists, enemy agents, saboteurs, bombers, kidnappers and dangerous trends. Sam Walton's folks are, too. The world's largest company has begun competing for spying talent.

Wal-Mart, with its 1.7 million em-ployees and more than 6,000 stores in 16 countries, is putting together its own corporate CIA, the Analytical Research Center, at company headquarters in tiny Bentonville, Ark. The center is part of the retailer's global security division, which is headed by former CIA and FBI officer Kenneth Senser. The center is led by David Harrison, formerly of the Border Patrol, Justice Department, 82nd Airborne and Army Special Operations.

Early this year, the center began advertising for threat analysts on Web sites for intelligence and law enforcement officers. On March 8, for example, Wal-Mart advertised on the site of the International Association of Crime Analysts. According to the job description, "threat analysts provide an objective perspective to assist key corporate leadership in critical decision-making involving corporate reputation and image, operations, safety and security concerns, and emerging world events."

Harrison's center will gather information about violence and threats against Wal-Mart and perform background checks on new employees. It no doubt also will mine the huge database of personal information the store maintains on all current and former employees, 47 million Sam's Club members, anyone who files a claim against the company or uses its pharmacies, as well as the vehicle identification numbers, license plate numbers and home addresses of those who get their oil changed at Wal-Mart.

The store also tracks those who buy propane tanks or more than three prepaid cell phones, Harrison told Government Security News in February.

Of Wal-Mart's data repository, he said: "If a [Joint Terrorism Task Force] comes to us and wants to look at it, I believe we would cooperate."
Title: Re: Walmart Starts its Own Intelligence Agency
Post by: K Frame on July 23, 2007, 08:03:53 AM
Starbucks will certainly soon follow.
Title: Re: Walmart Starts its Own Intelligence Agency
Post by: Paddy on July 23, 2007, 08:08:26 AM
Next they'll be doing black bag and wet operations.  They're trying to build/push through a store in our little town of 25,, even though we (well, most of us) don't want it and there's a WalMart just 12 miles up the road.
Title: Re: Walmart Starts its Own Intelligence Agency
Post by: grislyatoms on July 23, 2007, 08:15:01 AM
Lately, I have become more and more conscientious about leaving a paper trail in my daily transactions. This reinforces that, a bit.

No, I don't believe it's time for tin foil haberdashery, but there is the 4th amendment and I don't believe my day-to-day actions would interest any "intelligence" outfits, public or private, anyway.

CYA, and all that.
Title: Re: Walmart Starts its Own Intelligence Agency
Post by: Gewehr98 on July 23, 2007, 08:22:59 AM
Cool!

Wonder if they're still hiring?   grin

(Industrial espionage ain't just a military thing...)
Title: Re: Walmart Starts its Own Intelligence Agency
Post by: Paddy on July 23, 2007, 08:34:17 AM
It's virtually impossible to live in this society and not leave a paper trail. I would submit that more and more of our activities, by way of our transactions, are recorded every day.  Not for any nefarious purposes (yet), but the information is retrievable should anyone want it.
Title: Re: Walmart Starts its Own Intelligence Agency
Post by: Paddy on July 23, 2007, 08:35:38 AM
Quote
Cool!

Wonder if they're still hiring?
And you get one of those neat blue vests.  laugh
Title: Re: Walmart Starts its Own Intelligence Agency
Post by: K Frame on July 23, 2007, 08:59:49 AM
DING SPIES ARE DONE DING SPIES ARE DONE!
Title: Re: Walmart Starts its Own Intelligence Agency
Post by: Gewehr98 on July 23, 2007, 09:05:58 AM
I doubt you'd wear the blue vest.  Think along the lines of J.C. Penney's house security, sans the handheld radio.   grin 
Title: Re: Walmart Starts its Own Intelligence Agency
Post by: roo_ster on July 23, 2007, 09:07:06 AM
That sounds like interesting work.  If it is in Bentonville, it is even more attractive.

I did not see anything like this on the wal-mart external job posting site.
Title: Re: Walmart Starts its Own Intelligence Agency
Post by: charby on July 23, 2007, 09:46:53 AM
DING SPIES ARE DONE DING SPIES ARE DONE!

BAHHA AHAAA HA AHA AH AHA AHA

Title: Re: Walmart Starts its Own Intelligence Agency
Post by: Werewolf on July 23, 2007, 09:54:20 AM
Quote
The store also tracks those who buy propane tanks or more than three prepaid cell phones, Harrison told Government Security News in February.
Please. Just tell 'em to FORK OFF! When ever asked by a store where I am paying cash (99% of the time even for big ticket items) for my name, zip etc I just tell 'em that's none of their business. Sometimes they come up with some song and dance about warranties, returns or some other nonsense but again I just say - nunya.

No one has turned down my money yet...
Title: Re: Walmart Starts its Own Intelligence Agency
Post by: Firethorn on July 23, 2007, 10:22:06 AM
I have to say that I'm not surprised really.

Walmart is *HUGE*.  Along with this comes risks that parallel countries - by GDP Walmart is larger than some countries, roughly equal to that of Tonga. (244 billion in 2003)

There are huge expenses(threats) that can be avoided if you're paying attention, huge opportunities for profit if you're prepared, etc...  Especially when you're international.
Title: Re: Walmart Starts its Own Intelligence Agency
Post by: HankB on July 23, 2007, 11:05:13 AM
Wal-Mart wants spies?

I guess it isn't enough that most of their merchandise comes from Red China, now I guess they'll be hiring Chicoms, too!

(I'm old enough to remember when Wal-Mart ads used to proudly proclaim the numerous items they sold which were "Made in USA" . . . it's been a while.  sad )
Title: Re: Walmart Starts its Own Intelligence Agency
Post by: Tallpine on July 23, 2007, 11:09:44 AM
Quote
the Analytical Research Center, at company headquarters in tiny Bentonville, Ark.

ARC in Ark ....?   undecided
Title: Re: Walmart Starts its Own Intelligence Agency
Post by: crt360 on July 23, 2007, 12:07:51 PM
I didn't see anything about them keeping a record on those of us who just go there to buy ammo.  laugh
Title: Re: Walmart Starts its Own Intelligence Agency
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 23, 2007, 12:53:27 PM
When do they change their name to Blue Sun? 
Title: Re: Walmart Starts its Own Intelligence Agency
Post by: Standing Wolf on July 23, 2007, 04:59:32 PM
Well, yeah, but the "intelligence" product is Chinese.
Title: Re: Walmart Starts its Own Intelligence Agency
Post by: wmenorr67 on July 23, 2007, 07:55:53 PM
I am with Gewar.  How much does it pay.
Title: Re: Walmart Starts its Own Intelligence Agency
Post by: LadySmith on July 23, 2007, 10:00:09 PM
When do they change their name to Blue Sun? 
Oooh, good one.  laugh
Title: Re: Walmart Starts its Own Intelligence Agency
Post by: El Tejon on July 24, 2007, 02:48:09 AM
Hmmm, Walmart and intelligence, two words I thought I would not see together.

What kind of intelligence will they gather?  Info on tattoos, cigarettes and NASCAR?  Latest dirty oversized t-shirt with sleeves cut off trends?
Title: Re: Walmart Starts its Own Intelligence Agency
Post by: jeepmor on July 24, 2007, 03:26:07 AM
Sounds like the CIA and FBI short bus version of Intelligence.
Title: Re: Walmart Starts its Own Intelligence Agency
Post by: lee n. field on July 24, 2007, 03:26:33 AM
So, Walmart really is the Antichrist.  One of his minions, anyway.
Title: Re: Walmart Starts its Own Intelligence Agency
Post by: Tallpine on July 24, 2007, 05:30:42 AM
So, will we be able to go to the Service Desk and buy a background check on anyone we want for just $19.95 Huh?

 grin
Title: Re: Walmart Starts its Own Intelligence Agency
Post by: crt360 on July 24, 2007, 07:26:37 AM
[bouncing  smiley] "Wal-Mart, knocking down prices and your front door" [/bouncing  smiley]
Title: Re: Walmart Starts its Own Intelligence Agency
Post by: El Tejon on July 24, 2007, 07:28:47 AM
Yeah, but the Walmart SWAT team has an average age of 77. grin

*totters up on walker to front door* "Welcome to Walmart!"  *throws in flashbang*  "How can I help you?"
Title: Re: Walmart Starts its Own Intelligence Agency
Post by: Antibubba on July 24, 2007, 08:10:31 PM
See, I was looking for the hook--where is the profit motive in doing this.  and then I saw it:

Quote
Harrison's center will gather information about violence and threats against Wal-Mart and perform background checks on new employees. It no doubt also will mine the huge database of personal information the store maintains on all current and former employees, 47 million Sam's Club members, anyone who files a claim against the company or uses its pharmacies, as well as the vehicle identification numbers, license plate numbers and home addresses of those who get their oil changed at Wal-Mart.
 

I'll bet they've got buyers lined up for all that tasty info.  angry

And is it too cynical to not believe the DHS isn't providing some "incentives" for doing this?