Post by: Mabs2 on July 24, 2007, 03:31:17 PM
Pretty wacky article. But the things it points our do raise good questions.
The gravity statement is...just stupid though.
Figured I'd go along with the couple of conspiracy threads going about today and present ye all with this.
Post by: Parker Dean on July 24, 2007, 06:17:33 PM
Post by: drewtam on July 24, 2007, 06:37:56 PM
They didn't even try to site a source or some illogical backing. They just state it, and thats all there is. I wish I could do that.
"Radar guns are a myth. It is not possible to clock the speed of a car."
"Electricity and methane are a myth. You cannot bill me for what unnaturally shows up at my house."
...
Drew
Post by: cosine on July 24, 2007, 06:46:46 PM
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 24, 2007, 07:40:55 PM
"Electricity and methane are a myth. You cannot bill me for what unnaturally shows up at my house."
Works for me.
Post by: K Frame on July 24, 2007, 08:23:58 PM
That REALLY made my head hurt.
Jesus...
Post by: Antibubba on July 24, 2007, 10:43:10 PM
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Richard Hoagland
OK--that explains everything I need to know.
Post by: jeepmor on July 24, 2007, 11:13:42 PM
The ring can be attributed to a once molten state as it spun on it's axis in the sky. All the heavy and hard molten material would accumulate on the equator. After it cooled, this ring would contain a concentration of the hardest material of the shperes makeup, and erode the slowest.
The shape of the craters is indicative of the material the object is composed of. It's like a crystalline pattern. Ever see columns of basalt with 5-6 sides and near perfect geometry, same idea here. The material makeup could have a high concentration of Cobalt, Beryllium, Magnesium or any similar element with the rhomboidal or hexagonal type atomic pattern. This same geometry due to physical makeup of the moons material accounts for the horizons having some straight edges that are not as rounded as what is typically seen.
This thing is comprised of a heavy concentration of something like basalt that exhibits these angular characteristics. Nothing surprising at all, different yes, anomalous, yes, when compared to everything else we can see. Improbable, not at all.
Deathstar, well, let's hope not. Looks like liberal arts college students aren't the only ones smoking the good doobie. A spaceship, wow, good herb man.
Post by: Mabs2 on July 25, 2007, 02:51:04 AM
Whacko.
Agreed.Gravity is a function of mass, not spinning.\
Agreed.But the things he points out such as the odd silhouette, that tower thing, and the orbit...
All pretty strange despite the stupidity in the article.
PS: If you think this one is bad, look at some of the other articles.
Post by: HankB on July 25, 2007, 03:56:23 AM
* Quantized time. Time consists of particles - chronons - that circulate randomly. The apparent passage of time is caused by the number of chronons that pass you up. If you're in an accelerated frame, going close to the speed of light, fewer chronons pass you up, so time appears to slow down.
* Quantized friction. Friction consists of particles called frictions. Some materials - say, rubber - have a lot of frictions on the surface, while other materials - say, teflon - have fewer frictions on the surface, and are more slippery. Oil washes surface frictions away, providing a lubricating effect.
* The rings of Saturn are really a giant particle accelerator. A professor from the Ugandan Magneto Gravitic Atomic Wave Association (UMGAWA)** proved this, and proposed an expedition to take control of it so Uganda could start bombarding their enemies with fifty-kiloton protons.
** If you ever watched an old Johnny Weissmuller Tarzan movie, you'd remember hearing this word . . .
Post by: 280plus on July 25, 2007, 04:10:13 AM
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This is towering architecture that rises miles above the ground. Who built this?
Ok, it wasn't ME! 
Post by: AJ Dual on July 25, 2007, 04:54:28 AM
Essentially, what people like Richard Hoagland and his followers have is the normal human tendency to see shapes, faces, and regular patterns in things like clouds and rocks, but raised to a level that's pathological. It's the outer space version of toast with the face of Jesus on it up for sale on eBay...
The simplest explanation as to why there are no artifacts or a conspiracy is that if NASA had even the tiniest hint of any kind of artificial structures in our Solar System, they'd be screaming it from the rooftops so they could get the funding to explore them further. Despite how mired in the bureaucracy and technical minutiae all those scientists and engineers may be in the bowels of NASA, I'm pretty sure every last one of them got their start there because they had "the dream".
I'm sure to a man, everyone at NASA would think it unbelievably cool if we really did find "something"& (Emphasis on REALLY)
And if there really was a conspiracy, why release the photos for these "experts" to discover the details of ancient alien engineering in the first place?
Post by: K Frame on July 25, 2007, 04:59:03 AM
Maybe the same people who built these towers...
Post by: Ron on July 25, 2007, 05:24:56 AM
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2007-034
Post by: AJ Dual on July 25, 2007, 08:37:57 AM
I'm surprised they didn't mention the hexagonal storm at Saturn's north pole.
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2007-034
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2007-034
DUH! That's an upper facet of the still-functional mothership hiding just below the Saturnian cloud-deck...
Post by: m1911owner on July 25, 2007, 08:53:25 AM
Post by: Brad Johnson on July 25, 2007, 09:38:54 AM
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http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/column.php?id=99123
Pretty wacky article. But the things it points our do raise good questions.
Pretty wacky article. But the things it points our do raise good questions.
I think the guy is on something a little stronger than regular old eveyday air.
Brad
Post by: MechAg94 on July 25, 2007, 10:07:11 AM
Sounds like he just got through reading Mutineer's Moon by David Weber.
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"Now, Commander, I shall try to explain what is happening."
"You can start," MacIntyre interrupted, determined to be more than a passive listener, "by explaining how you people managed to build a base this size on our moon without us noticing."
"We built no base, Commander."
MacIntyre's green eyes narrowed in irritation.
"Well somebody sure as hell did," he growled.
"You are suffering under a misapprehension, Commander. This is not a base 'on' your moon. It is your moon."
"You can start," MacIntyre interrupted, determined to be more than a passive listener, "by explaining how you people managed to build a base this size on our moon without us noticing."
"We built no base, Commander."
MacIntyre's green eyes narrowed in irritation.
"Well somebody sure as hell did," he growled.
"You are suffering under a misapprehension, Commander. This is not a base 'on' your moon. It is your moon."
Post by: Nick1911 on July 25, 2007, 11:36:27 AM
I'm surprised they didn't mention the hexagonal storm at Saturn's north pole.
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2007-034
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2007-034
OK. That is really cool.
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 25, 2007, 01:06:42 PM
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Gravity is a function of mass, not spinning.
Did these guys really say that gravity comes from spin? Wow. Anyway, gravity and spin are myths and unnatural.
Post by: Iapetus on July 25, 2007, 01:43:53 PM
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 25, 2007, 02:23:58 PM
Post by: DJJ on July 25, 2007, 06:28:22 PM
Post by: K Frame on July 25, 2007, 08:36:55 PM
I could swear I was told way back in elementary school that spinning generates gravity. I didn't buy it back then (having ridden on the merry-go-round), and I know now it's wrong, but I KNOW I heard it.
Spinning can, I believe, create artificial gravity, but in order for that to work on a round planet you'd have to be inside the planet so that you weren't flung into space (assuming that the planet has no gravity).
Post by: mtnbkr on July 26, 2007, 05:49:11 AM
I could swear I was told way back in elementary school that spinning generates gravity. I didn't buy it back then (having ridden on the merry-go-round), and I know now it's wrong, but I KNOW I heard it.
Spinning can, I believe, create artificial gravity, but in order for that to work on a round planet you'd have to be inside the planet so that you weren't flung into space (assuming that the planet has no gravity).
What he said. Mass is the source of gravity, but because spacecraft don't have much mass, they create the illusion of gravity via centrifugal force (assuming you're inside the craft).
Chris
Post by: AJ Dual on July 26, 2007, 05:55:17 AM
Post by: K Frame on July 26, 2007, 06:03:46 AM
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! WHAT THE HELL WAS IT?
It's been driving me nuts since I posted that note last night!
Post by: Sergeant Bob on July 26, 2007, 06:10:57 AM
Dammit... I saw a movie just recently that used spinning sections of a space ship to simulate gravity...
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! WHAT THE HELL WAS IT?
It's been driving me nuts since I posted that note last night!
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! WHAT THE HELL WAS IT?
It's been driving me nuts since I posted that note last night!
2010?
Post by: K Frame on July 26, 2007, 06:12:35 AM
2010?
YES!
God, thank you. It was driving me insane!
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 26, 2007, 02:49:15 PM
Post by: DJJ on July 26, 2007, 05:03:34 PM
Post by: K Frame on July 26, 2007, 05:04:52 PM
I should clarify: I could swear I was told that Earth's spinning is what generates its gravity. Which is wrong. I would swear it was in a "filmstrip" in about the 3rd grade.
Did the same filmstrip tell you that earthquakes were caused by giants bowling underground?
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 26, 2007, 05:17:46 PM
Post by: K Frame on July 26, 2007, 05:21:47 PM
Have they consulted the rods of Ra?
You don't consult the Rods of Ra...
THEY share with you what THEY want you to know, when THEY want you to know it.
And not a moment before!
Post by: Brad Johnson on July 26, 2007, 06:09:03 PM
Brad
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 26, 2007, 07:27:15 PM
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Post by: Perd Hapley on July 26, 2007, 07:40:17 PM
Post by: HankB on July 27, 2007, 04:01:43 AM
. . . Did the same filmstrip tell you that earthquakes were caused by giants bowling underground?
At one time - somewhere around second grade - I thought you got thunder when the angels were bowling. I mentioned this to one of my teachers, and she was not amused.
She was even less amused when I referred to snow as "God's Dandruff."
That's when I learned that nuns have no sense of humor.
Post by: K Frame on July 27, 2007, 04:51:31 AM
Post by: Phyphor on July 27, 2007, 11:59:14 AM
What gun for Dahak?
Post by: K Frame on July 28, 2007, 05:36:16 AM
Is that anything like Whalers on the Moon?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=M4kYZnnhRqo
Post by: AJ Dual on July 28, 2007, 07:45:52 AM
Although one's gut reaction is to think this is a Martian version of that huge sinkhole in Mexico that's so huge that base jumpers can sky-dive inside of it, and it's over 100 stories deep.
Its proximity to some of the gigantic extinct shield volcanoes suggests some sort of lava tube or cave with a collapsed roof.
http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2007/121/mars-dark-hole.htm
Post by: MechAg94 on July 28, 2007, 11:00:33 AM
Post by: K Frame on July 28, 2007, 04:25:44 PM
It's the great stone face's belly button.
Post by: MechAg94 on July 30, 2007, 10:42:51 AM
http://www.buddytv.com/articles/south-park/top-10-best-tv-moments-of-2006-2718.aspx
Mexican Space Program (MASA) Sends Whale to the Moon
Easily one of the funniest South Park episodes ever.
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Easily the most ridiculous moment on television this year. The short explanation: Fooled by technicians at a Sea World-type park, the boys are convinced that one of the trained Orca whales is an alien who needs to be sent to its home planet. The boys steal the whale from the park, take it to Mexico, where Mexico's shoddy space program agrees to send the whale into space for a couple hundred bucks. And then they do.
There are lots of little parody items mixed in as well. When they break in to steal the whale, all the kids are in black face, except for Token (the only black kid) who is wearing white face. 
Made fun of animal rights groups as well.http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/south_park/videos/season_9/index.jhtml
on the 3rd row down.
Post by: Jamisjockey on July 30, 2007, 02:49:05 PM
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/column.php?id=99123
Pretty wacky article. But the things it points our do raise good questions.
The gravity statement is...just stupid though.
Figured I'd go along with the couple of conspiracy threads going about today and present ye all with this.
Pretty wacky article. But the things it points our do raise good questions.
The gravity statement is...just stupid though.
Figured I'd go along with the couple of conspiracy threads going about today and present ye all with this.
Where can I get some of that *expletive deleted*it he's smokin? Man, its gotta be good.
Post by: AJ Dual on July 31, 2007, 05:44:58 AM
http://www.buddytv.com/articles/south-park/top-10-best-tv-moments-of-2006-2718.aspx
Mexican Space Program (MASA) Sends Whale to the Moon
Mexican Space Program (MASA) Sends Whale to the Moon
I just realized it might be a minor homage to "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy", where the whale is brought into existence by the Infinite Improbability Drive, and goes, "SPLAT!", just as he's wondering if "The ground would be his friend&"
So I think I'll retract my prior theory about the "Mars Hole", and I now say it's most likely a whale impact crater.
Post by: Strings on August 01, 2007, 01:23:59 AM
Short trip backwards. And Sergent Bob is NOT God...
