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Title: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: charby on July 30, 2007, 08:00:21 AM
From http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=8066.0

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She gets a McMansion.
I get a boat.
May (insert chosen diety here) save my soul.....

I'm thinking he needs this



Donzi 43 ZR

Probably set you back $400K
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: grislyatoms on July 30, 2007, 08:07:35 AM
http://www.vikingyachts.com/models/pages/overview.asp?numIdVal=64C

My dream retirement...seriously. One of Grandad's friends had one very similar, a couple slips over from Grandad's boat.

I'd live on it in S. Fla., the Carribean, or the Gulf of Mexico and charter it out.

I've got enough wheel time to qualify for a six pack license, but I can't prove it/may be outdated. I haven't looked into commercial charter licensing in a long time.
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: K Frame on July 30, 2007, 08:09:35 AM
She gets the massive house, but this is all he'll be allowed to get...

Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: grislyatoms on July 30, 2007, 08:14:09 AM
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She gets the massive house, but this is all he'll be allowed to get...

 laugh
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: Manedwolf on July 30, 2007, 08:17:13 AM
Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen's private yacht. One of these?



The stern hangar holds a smaller yacht and a submarine. It's over 400 feet long.

Octopus cost Allen over US$200 million and has permanent crew of 60, including several former Navy Seals. It has two helicopters, seven boats, a 10 man submarine and a remote controlled vehicle for crawling on the Ocean floor. The submarine has the capacity to sleep eight for up to two weeks underwater.
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on July 30, 2007, 08:24:31 AM
Now that is how you overcompensate!
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: onions! on July 30, 2007, 08:27:11 AM
I'd take a 20-24 ft pontoon over a yacht most any day.
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: Tallpine on July 30, 2007, 09:21:29 AM
A Scottish lugger  cool
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: The Viking on July 30, 2007, 09:38:49 AM

A longboat! grin
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: El Tejon on July 30, 2007, 10:52:47 AM
How about a Dragon Boat so he can go out with all his friends? grin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Boat_Festival
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: K Frame on July 30, 2007, 11:10:24 AM

A longboat! grin


Dang! Now that SCREAMS class!

You could hire your APS friends to row you up and down the Chesapeake, Jamis!

And when you die, who needs a funeral plot, you have your long boat for a viking cremation!
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: roo_ster on July 30, 2007, 11:34:54 AM

A longboat! grin


Dang! Now that SCREAMS class!

You could hire your APS friends to row you up and down the Chesapeake, Jamis!

And when you die, who needs a funeral plot, you have your long boat for a viking cremation!
I'm in, as long as we get to raid poorly-defended French coastal towns.
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: K Frame on July 30, 2007, 11:38:13 AM
Well, we don't have any French coastal towns, so we'll have to substitute Maryland coastal towns.
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: The Viking on July 30, 2007, 11:45:01 AM
Well, we don't have any French coastal towns, so we'll have to substitute Maryland coastal towns.
I'm in. Though it should be possible to sail it over the Atlantic ocean. We can't let the french get away can we?
And I've decided that I'm going to build myself a longboat, and having it as my funeral pyre. Stocked with weapons and food of course. And my still living enemies, chained down, to serve me as slaves in the next world grin cheesy.
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: K Frame on July 30, 2007, 11:45:51 AM
Well, we don't have any French coastal towns, so we'll have to substitute Maryland coastal towns.
I'm in. Though it should be possible to sail it over the Atlantic ocean. We can't let the french get away can we?

I can't take that much time off of work.

Can I just fly into London and you guys come up the Thames and pick me up at Heathrow or Gatwick?
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: BrokenPaw on July 30, 2007, 11:48:11 AM
Well, we don't have any French coastal towns, so we'll have to substitute Maryland coastal towns.
New Orleans has a French Quarter and convenient access by (and for) water.  Wouldn't that count?  grin

-BP
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: The Viking on July 30, 2007, 11:50:47 AM
Well, we don't have any French coastal towns, so we'll have to substitute Maryland coastal towns.
I'm in. Though it should be possible to sail it over the Atlantic ocean. We can't let the french get away can we?

I can't take that much time off of work.

Can I just fly into London and you guys come up the Thames and pick me up at Heathrow or Gatwick?
It seems like I don't have any friends here who are interested in celebrating the old ways of pillaging, looting and sacrificing 9 horses, dogs, humans etc. every ninth year. Though there is a replica longboat not very far from here. Its totally capable of sailing too. Can't be too hard to get it to the british shores grin cheesy
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: K Frame on July 30, 2007, 11:54:10 AM
"New Orleans"

Yeah, that will work, I guess...

How many boxes of plastic beads can we fit into a long boat?

I can just hear us now...

SHOW US YOUR OARS AND WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME BEADS!
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: The Viking on July 30, 2007, 11:59:59 AM
Here is a picture of the ship I talked about. I believe its still located not more than maybe 10 miles from me.
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: Jamisjockey on July 30, 2007, 12:29:42 PM
Well, we don't have any French coastal towns, so we'll have to substitute Maryland coastal towns.
DC.  Nobody has guns according to the mayor....


I was eyeballing something like this


Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 30, 2007, 01:08:35 PM
SHOW US YOUR OARS AND WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME BEADS!


I think it's "Show us your orbs..."
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: Thor on July 30, 2007, 02:43:39 PM
I don't think a common pontoon boat would fare too well on the Chesapeake Bay. However, in MN, I would take one of those over most boats. Just make sure it can handle a REALLY BIG engine!!!
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: Stickjockey on July 30, 2007, 03:28:23 PM
Here ya go, Jam-

http://www.projectboats.com/whiskeysub.html
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: Jamisjockey on July 30, 2007, 03:53:21 PM

Now that's just freakin cool
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: Harold Tuttle on July 30, 2007, 04:01:29 PM


This is a buddy's fishing boat...
She is a 57 foot Spencer Sizzler

http://www.marlinmag.com/boats/boats/spencer-57-8964.html

http://www.spenceryachtsinc.com/

Length:  57'

Beam:  16' 10"

Draft:  4' 5"

Displacement:  58,000 lbs

Headroom (Average):  6' 5"

Fuel Capacity:  1450 Gal

Water Capacity:  250 Gal

State Rooms:  3 (Including Crew Accommodations)

Sleeping Capacity:  6 Persons

Engines:  Twin 1550 hp Caterpillar Diesel C30

Cruise Speed:  41 Knots / 66 kmh @ 2100 rpm / 112 gph

Max Speed:  44 Knots / 70 kmh @ 2350 rpm / 112 gph
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: MillCreek on July 30, 2007, 04:05:36 PM
So if you had Paul Allen's yacht, I wonder if it would be legal to put a 25 mm. Bushmaster cannon or two on it, if it is flagged in a foreign country.  Something like that, I suspect piracy would be a serious concern, if you go sailing about in SE Asia, or off the East African coast.  At the very least, I hope they would have several small arms, and the personnel who know how to use them.
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: Stickjockey on July 30, 2007, 04:08:28 PM
Millcreek, that just gives me all sorts of evil ideas.

Pirate hunting, anyone?
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: Jamisjockey on July 30, 2007, 04:59:59 PM


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This is a buddy's fishing boat...
She is a 57 foot Spencer Sizzler

I would commit unnatural prison acts for such a boat....but its not in the plan. I'd like the ability to be able to tow it down to my Dad's, OBX, VAbeach, Ocean city, or just put in here on the Potomac and cruise with the familia.  Also, once the FIL moves to Louisiana, I sure as hell ain't leaving it home if we go there for a week or two....

I'd actually go with an Ocean myself


http://www.oceanyachtsinc.com/Fleet/Super_Sport/54_Super_Sport/index.html

That thing is bigger than my first apartment.  Pricetag over 1mil, makes it more expensive than the house we're about to buy.
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: RocketMan on July 30, 2007, 05:13:20 PM
Millcreek, that just gives me all sorts of evil ideas.

Pirate hunting, anyone?

That notion has come up a few times here in the past.  I like it.  It appeals to the jarhead in me.  grin
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on July 30, 2007, 05:39:55 PM
Doesn't anyone's idea of a dream boat include sails?  Or am I just freakish for think that a yacht is supposed to be wind powered?
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: Stickjockey on July 30, 2007, 06:21:50 PM
Oh, Headless. Don't even go there with me.


92' oak hull Baltic Trader schooner, built in 1900.

Now that's a bit o' heaven, that is.
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: Manedwolf on July 31, 2007, 05:04:46 AM
Millcreek, that just gives me all sorts of evil ideas.

Pirate hunting, anyone?

That notion has come up a few times here in the past.  I like it.  It appeals to the jarhead in me.  grin

Except that civilian vessels suck at taking any sort of small arms fire hits. They learned that in WWI when a couple of liners got into fights with each other (Carmania vs Cap Trafalgar) and ended up looking like Swiss cheese. Machine-gun fire along the waterline and it's going down.

Now, if you made a yacht out of a surplus armored minesweeper or patrol boat...  grin
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: RocketMan on July 31, 2007, 05:09:15 AM
Millcreek, that just gives me all sorts of evil ideas.

Pirate hunting, anyone?

That notion has come up a few times here in the past.  I like it.  It appeals to the jarhead in me.  grin

Except that civilian vessels suck at taking any sort of small arms fire hits. They learned that in WWII when a couple of liners got into fights and ended up looking like Swiss cheese. Machine-gun fire along the waterline and it's going down.

Now, if you made a yacht out of a surplus armored minesweeper or patrol boat...  grin

Not bad.  Keep the ideas coming.  This is doable.  We have the technology.   grin
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: Manedwolf on July 31, 2007, 05:23:28 AM
I'd still be in favor of taking the old S.S. United States out to that region as a shiny new sort of "Q-ship". She's in Philadelphia, just sitting there.

Fastest liner in the world still, designed and built in the US, almost 50 knots, nearly 1000 feet long, and since she was built in the 1950's as a Navy contingency troopship as well, she has an armored hull with anti-torpedo banding that would prevent damage from suicide ramming rafts.



Anyone got a few hundred million? It's disgraceful she's sitting there like that, she should be our Ship of State. If you're in Philly, drive by the harbor. So impressive that it doesn't even look real from a distance, more like a movie set. While modern cruise ships are uuuuuugly condos that float, this one is "wow" presence, even with her paint peeling.

Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: mtnbkr on July 31, 2007, 09:15:36 AM
Wish I had known about the ship when I was in Philly a few weeks ago.  That would've been worth a side trip.

JJ, if you get an blue water capable boat, WE ARE GOING SALTWATER FISHING.  Ya hear? Cheesy

Chris
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: K Frame on July 31, 2007, 09:20:38 AM
I don't think it's open for tours.
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: Manedwolf on July 31, 2007, 09:28:02 AM
I don't think it's open for tours.

No, but it's really hard to miss even driving by!



The lines of the ship are absolutely gorgeous. A bit of the old Iowa-class battleships to her, I think.


Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: K Frame on July 31, 2007, 09:31:52 AM
I just did a little tooling around on the ship foundation's website.

It was designed so that there was virtually nothing flammable used in its construction.

Built at that time, that means TONS and TONS of asbestos. Apparently even some of the carpets were asbestos fiber.
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: Manedwolf on July 31, 2007, 09:37:50 AM
Yup, all that's been stripped out to bare metal now. The superstructure is mostly aluminum, too, not steel, so she hasn't turned into a rustbucket.

BTW, here's one of my favorite pictures of all time. This is the ship's designer, William Francis Gibbs, who had been designing her for about 20 years as his personal dream. She was completely his baby, everything down to the hull shape with stabilizing planes and staggered screws that let her get to paint-peeling speeds.

"He would call each day the ship was at sea to check on her condition, and would be present at each arrival and departure."




Tribute to American ingenuity, I think. And a powerful picture. I think you can tell how he feels.
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: Harold Tuttle on July 31, 2007, 10:02:46 AM
so, when the SHTF,
we commandeer the SS United States, retrofit some big deck guns and go privateer...
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: charby on July 31, 2007, 10:08:55 AM
so, when the SHTF,
we commandeer the SS United States, retrofit some big deck guns and go privateer...

Arg...

Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: K Frame on July 31, 2007, 10:12:57 AM
Why did the Village People's "In the Navy" just pop into my mind?
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: Manedwolf on July 31, 2007, 10:16:04 AM
so, when the SHTF,
we commandeer the SS United States, retrofit some big deck guns and go privateer...

Though I want to see someone try to figure out how to properly start up 248,000 horsepower of eight oil-fueled high-pressure boilers and four turbines. You can't exactly just turn a key... Wink

"Sir, someone is stealing the Enterprise!"
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: Jamisjockey on July 31, 2007, 11:01:45 AM
Wish I had known about the ship when I was in Philly a few weeks ago.  That would've been worth a side trip.

JJ, if you get an blue water capable boat, WE ARE GOING SALTWATER FISHING.  Ya hear? Cheesy

Chris

Betchersweetass.
You going to Tennessee with me?  I found a VRBO house on the South Holston.  Artificals only IIRC, big fat 'bows and browns.  And drinking.  Lots of drinking.
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: K Frame on July 31, 2007, 11:06:10 AM
so, when the SHTF,
we commandeer the SS United States, retrofit some big deck guns and go privateer...

Though I want to see someone try to figure out how to properly start up 248,000 horsepower of eight oil-fueled high-pressure boilers and four turbines. You can't exactly just turn a key... Wink

"Sir, someone is stealing the Enterprise!"



Piece of cake.

Only you need about 50 people to pull the starting rope.
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: RadioFreeSeaLab on July 31, 2007, 11:07:33 AM
so, when the SHTF,
we commandeer the SS United States, retrofit some big deck guns and go privateer...
OK, you east coast guys take the United States, us west coast guys will storm the USS Midway museum and steam around to meet you.  I want the Midway for my personal playground please, thanks.

Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: charby on July 31, 2007, 11:17:19 AM
so, when the SHTF,
we commandeer the SS United States, retrofit some big deck guns and go privateer...

Though I want to see someone try to figure out how to properly start up 248,000 horsepower of eight oil-fueled high-pressure boilers and four turbines. You can't exactly just turn a key... Wink

"Sir, someone is stealing the Enterprise!"


So easy, get about 20 of us drunk as a skunk, a couple stellar whiskey dares and they will find us under steam/power headed to Caribbean for more rum.


Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: RadioFreeSeaLab on July 31, 2007, 11:19:44 AM


So easy, get about 20 of us drunk as a skunk, a couple stellar whiskey dares and they will find us under steam/power headed to Caribbean for more rum.

I'll meet you there with my Fearless Midway Crew. 
No, I was never in the Navy, but I want to stand on the bridge of that ship with a wench and a mug of rum.
Title: Re: Help JamisJockey pick out a boat.
Post by: charby on July 31, 2007, 11:21:49 AM


So easy, get about 20 of us drunk as a skunk, a couple stellar whiskey dares and they will find us under steam/power headed to Caribbean for more rum.

I'll meet you there with my Fearless Midway Crew. 
No, I was never in the Navy, but I want to stand on the bridge of that ship with a wench and a mug of rum.

I'll have to make sure to pack my jumper cables before heading to the bar