Post by: lone_gunman on August 07, 2007, 07:11:03 AM
Who all was banned from THR?
Post by: Ex-MA Hole on August 07, 2007, 07:13:13 AM
http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=8136.0
Oh, did you go anywhere good?
Post by: AJ Dual on August 07, 2007, 08:38:16 AM
Post by: K Frame on August 07, 2007, 08:47:44 AM
Post by: charby on August 07, 2007, 09:34:08 AM
Would someone please give that poor guy an Excedrin?
Or a double vodka martini
Post by: longeyes on August 07, 2007, 09:39:56 AM
Post by: 280plus on August 07, 2007, 09:54:23 AM
Would someone please give that poor guy an Excedrin?
Really, I get a headache just looking at him... 
Post by: jnojr on August 07, 2007, 10:53:46 AM
Go figure.
Post by: The Rabbi on August 07, 2007, 01:03:23 PM
Would someone please give that poor guy an Excedrin?
Or a double vodka martini
Post by: BakerMikeRomeo on August 07, 2007, 01:05:50 PM
Oddly enough, I'm not banned...[snip]
"Mostly Harmless"
~BakerMike
Post by: Balog on August 07, 2007, 01:30:36 PM
Post by: pacodelahoya on August 07, 2007, 01:41:34 PM
Longeyes, I was a looooooong time lurker at THR, and I would like to tell you that your posts were one of the reasons I kept coming back, and finally joined. Thank you for all the years of wisdom.
Post by: Standing Wolf on August 07, 2007, 01:43:28 PM
Wow. Something's awry.
I've made a point of looking for your posts for quite some while. You've seemed to have a lucid, succinct way of putting things.
Post by: Len Budney on August 07, 2007, 01:48:19 PM
Post by: Ron on August 07, 2007, 02:34:46 PM
Like I said in an earlier thread we both have been there from the beginning. It just seems odd they canned him. I haven't been in THR a lot lately so I don't know if he was rantin an ravin or what, weird.
My thoughts on him have nothing to do with any positions he has taken. He was just one of the regulars who I have grown accustomed to seeing there.
Sorry Len, don't recall your posts so I cannot mount a defense for you.
Post by: Paddy on August 07, 2007, 02:51:44 PM
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 07, 2007, 02:59:43 PM
Post by: Paddy on August 07, 2007, 03:06:10 PM
Post by: pacodelahoya on August 07, 2007, 03:17:50 PM
Post by: K Frame on August 07, 2007, 03:24:27 PM
Both of you.
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 07, 2007, 03:26:48 PM
Post by: Ron on August 07, 2007, 03:32:03 PM
If the rules were broke then fine I understand.
I suspect some of the drama in longeyes posts is due to the fact that he has been a regular poster on THR since Dec 25 2002. When I went to see if his posts were deleted as he mistakenly claimed, I noticed he signed up the same day I did. I am member 785 so he is probably one of the first thousand people to sign up there. As a reference I believe that was around the first week THR was up.
Whatever, I just would hope if I get dumped someone would bother to let me know why.
Post by: wooderson on August 07, 2007, 03:34:09 PM
I'm really hoping it was the last post where I talked (joked) about my desire for a child-free gun show shopping experience. I was only contacted by a moderator once (unfairly, in my belief) and edited my posts to fit her requests, and that was months ago. (my username was 'wooderson' as well if anyone's curious who I am or what my posts were, I doubt I was a well-known figure, etc.)
Post by: roo_ster on August 07, 2007, 04:48:29 PM
Post by: K Frame on August 07, 2007, 06:47:58 PM
As far as I know, no one has been banned here since Blackburn, and that's been months.
I've shut down a few posts, perhaps a couple prematurely, but as far as I know I'm the only admin other than possibly Oleg to have done so since the new friends section was added.
I know numerous posts have been let go that would very likely have drawn stern warnings or even bans on other forums.
Other than that, I'd have to say that, by and large, the monkeys still run this zoo, so to speak.
Post by: Ron on August 07, 2007, 06:56:29 PM
I have no issues with this place or THR
For whatever reason I just don't spend as much time at THR as compared to years ago. The DU type trolling in the L&P may have something to do with it, the schism among otherwise natural allies the Iraq war has fostered may be another reason.
Your moderating has been fine, no self deprecation necessary.
If there is a weird vibe I think it was in L&P and to a lesser extent GGD @THR
Post by: K Frame on August 07, 2007, 07:05:01 PM
Just laying out things as I see them.
I have, however, been getting wind of some possible changes that could result in signficiant differences in how things are moderated here. That, however, should affect no one currently here.
Post by: longeyes on August 07, 2007, 07:27:18 PM
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If longeyes is the great guy you all seem to think he is, then don't you think someone has jacked his screen-name? Whoever is using "longeyes" around here has really tried to make himself a martyr, but only succeeded in sounding like a drama queen. But then, I'm always disgusted when people debut on APS by complaining that they were victimized on THR.
Fistful, you really, really misunderstand. My world hasn't come crashing down because I was driven out of Paradise with a cryptic one-liner. I'd really backed off on posting at THR because I saw a climatic change in the place over the last several months. It was obvious to me that the walls were closing in. Certain topics I considered important, not only in the matter of gun rights but in the matter of this nation's survival, had become unwelcome. I got the message and absented myself from L&P and hung out, in the main, with the semi-auto guys.
I'm no drama queen and no "victim." And there are no deep, dark secrets you don't know. You know what I know. Maybe my "sin" was just being direct? I am just someone who is here to alert the THR membership that something just may be rotten in Denmark. After seven years and seven thousand posts I think I've earned the right to offer a modest appraisal of "the State of the Forum." THR was a great place to hang out, and it was, without doubt, a great education. I learned a lot and sharpened my thinking and my writing. No regrets. I only hope its best days aren't behind it.
Godspeed to all.
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 07, 2007, 08:24:46 PM
Post by: Ron on August 07, 2007, 08:48:59 PM
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But all the talk of "rewriting history" and comparisons to the USSR seem really overboard to me.
That was over the top and weakened my position
Post by: Jamisjockey on August 08, 2007, 03:18:36 AM
The guy was engaged in blackburn style posting, and I called a mall ninja a mall ninja. I managed to get myself reinstated.
Post by: Ex-MA Hole on August 08, 2007, 03:40:10 AM
I don't see too many posts that have been closed without discussion amongst the mods. There have been posts that mod A wanted closed, and mod B said to hang on. I have had people that I think need to be drawn and quartered, but other mods have told me to chill. We keep eachother in check, rather nicely I think.
Maybe one or two, but by and large, I think that y'all have a pretty free reign.
Post by: Standing Wolf on August 08, 2007, 03:53:52 AM
Divide and conquer has been an effective tactic since we walked on all fours half the time and fought our wars with rocks and sticks.
We'll soon be living in interesting times, I'm afraid.
Post by: silliman89 on August 08, 2007, 03:56:42 AM
Post by: The Rabbi on August 08, 2007, 04:08:59 AM
I think anyone who has a picture of a clubbed seal next to their name probably should be banned. Maybe it's profiling, but I just can't imagine anyone that tasteless and imature is ever going to have any positive contribution to discussion.
Gee, your first post and you've already managed to piss off people and reveal shallow thinking, if any at all.
In fact JamisJockey contributes plenty here, a hell of a lot more than you're likely to, sonny.
Post by: Jamisjockey on August 08, 2007, 04:22:22 AM
I think anyone who has a picture of a clubbed seal next to their name probably should be banned. Maybe it's profiling, but I just can't imagine anyone that tasteless and imature is ever going to have any positive contribution to discussion.
I think anyone without a picture next to thier name probably should be banned, as they obviously cannot figure out how this forum works
I'm pleased you find my avatar offensive, and that you find yourself so important that with your first post you can advocate banning a member with over fifteen-hundred posts.
All hail your importancenessiness!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Harold Tuttle on August 08, 2007, 04:22:42 AM
But i do think there needs to be limits
Walrus clubbing is right out.
Next thing you know, there an enraged tusked pinniped taking up half the bar,
and he's drunkenly asking your girlfriend if she knows where his bucket has disappeared to.
Its just not right.
http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2007/05/the_walrus_buck.html
Post by: Harold Tuttle on August 08, 2007, 04:28:53 AM
Post by: K Frame on August 08, 2007, 04:38:38 AM
Everyone else -- let's not make this the seal clubbing club thread.
Post by: Matt King on August 08, 2007, 05:51:01 AM
I am the libertarian poster that used to post in L&P, and enjoyed polite debate. When I first heard that L&P was shut down, I was disappointed. I was even more disappointed when I heard how many people were banned. I still dont understand why Budney, Manedwolf, and longeyes were all banned. I always had the impression that they were decent and respectful members.
I have decided to register here, because I too have noticed the change in the air over at THR. It just hasnt felt right recently. Methinks I will be spending less and less time over at THR.
See you around.
Post by: Matt King on August 08, 2007, 06:11:18 AM
Post by: roo_ster on August 08, 2007, 06:53:15 AM
Perhaps it was less to do about the subject matter than the tone/attitude of the posters?
Post by: longeyes on August 08, 2007, 08:26:35 AM
Post by: K Frame on August 08, 2007, 08:36:49 AM
It's your business why you were banned.
It's not your business why someone else was banned unless that individual chooses to share the reason with you.
Post by: AJ Dual on August 08, 2007, 08:37:36 AM
One of the major problems IMHO is the inconsistency of the Moderating. For example, threads about civil liberties will be shut down, while threads about Illegal Immigration will be left to go on and on.
One would assume that moderators have lives outside THR, so a thread might grow to several pages of acrimony before pruning, providing a false sense of approval or "legitimacy" the topic or tone did not have.
I haven't been on THR as much as I used to for other reasons, and I generally only spent time in L&P on SCOTUS/Parker Vs. D.C. and CCW and RKBA issues concerning Wisconsin, so I'm not really able to provide an informed opinion about what's happening on THR right now.
Although, that I see among the names of the banned those who I believe I recognize as long-time THR contributors, and members claiming to be banned after only one moderator warning, (with which they claimed to comply) makes me somewhat apprehensive.
Although, just what I'm concerned about exactly, I don't know.
Post by: Jamisjockey on August 08, 2007, 08:45:10 AM
I suggest a public posting of all who were banned along with a succinct statement of why. Let's have some transparency in this peaceable kingdom.
I would suggest that this just die. Seriously. It's Olegs forum to run as seen fit. The moderators answer only to god, so how can you question them, either?
But seriously.......
I think that there is no need for that. The mods dismantled L&P and a group of posters as they saw fit. I personally think that they allow some morons to run amuk, while taking down people who disagree a little too loudly....but its thier board to run as they see fit. The 1st amendment doesnt' apply. Its a private board run by private citizens. Don't like it? I'm sure the DU forums have room for a few more....
Post by: Joe Demko on August 08, 2007, 08:58:14 AM
Post by: Jamisjockey on August 08, 2007, 09:09:59 AM
I propose a moratorium on posting how many posts you've made as some kind of measure of your value as a member. G_nk_d, the most hated man on the internet, could rack up hundreds of posts in a day; yet I'm pretty sure all of you would likely agree his presence was not an asset to any board.
Thanks for comparing me to gunkid.
Post by: longeyes on August 08, 2007, 09:12:15 AM
Post by: Joe Demko on August 08, 2007, 10:00:27 AM
I've no idea why you got clubbed like a baby seal.
My collection of warnings, reprimands, upbraidings, etc. far surpasses my gun collection in both numbers and variety. I'm a member of the minority at THR (i.e. I am not a conservative, Xian, GOP-voting, Bush-loving, Iraq War-supporting gun owner) so almost every Hell & Pee thread I ever participated in meant I was in disagreement with most of the other participants. I didn't always express myself the way that the stake-holders in THR desire us to and, as a result, I got smacked down. I don't recall you being at the center of too many monkeyhouse shitfights.
With regard to comparing anybody to G_nk_d, don't read more into it than is there. How much you post is no gauge of your worth as a member. Remember C.R. Sam? He was as laconic as they come. He posted seldom and used telegraphic style when he did. Yet, that man could say more of value in a couple sentences than most do in whole pages.
Post by: K Frame on August 08, 2007, 10:04:49 AM
A request has been made, and it's up to Oleg as to whether or not he wants to do what the requestor has asked.