Post by: RadioFreeSeaLab on September 25, 2007, 07:54:40 AM
Canned. Not a moment too soon.
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police officer whose berating of a motorist in south St. Louis County was captured on video is out of a job.
Aldermen in the tiny town St. George voted this week to fire Sergeant James Kuehnlein.
Brett Darrow, 20, had a video recorder inside his car. He was at a commuter lot near I-55 in the early hours of September 7th when the officer approached the car.
In a video that got wide viewership on the Internet, Kuehnlein is heard taunting and threatening Darrow, sometimes shouting and using profanity.
Darrow says he's pleased with the decision to fire the officer.
An attorney for Kuehnlein says he is still weighing his options.
Aldermen in the tiny town St. George voted this week to fire Sergeant James Kuehnlein.
Brett Darrow, 20, had a video recorder inside his car. He was at a commuter lot near I-55 in the early hours of September 7th when the officer approached the car.
In a video that got wide viewership on the Internet, Kuehnlein is heard taunting and threatening Darrow, sometimes shouting and using profanity.
Darrow says he's pleased with the decision to fire the officer.
An attorney for Kuehnlein says he is still weighing his options.
Post by: Gewehr98 on September 25, 2007, 08:01:10 AM
I'll bet our camera hero keeps a low profile for a while, lest the unemployed cop takes his firing personal and all.
Post by: brimic on September 25, 2007, 08:15:02 AM
In Milwaukee, its almost impossible to fire a bad cop unless he gets convicted of a felony, and even then he keeps his salary and benefits up until he moment he is convicted.
Post by: HankB on September 25, 2007, 10:12:11 AM
Curious what options the now-unemployed cop has, short of suing the city...
Sue the city? On what basis - rightful termination? Perhaps he'll soon be checking shopper's receipts as they leave Wal-Mart . . .
Post by: StopTheGrays on September 25, 2007, 11:24:35 AM
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The "I'll make something up!" Cop has been fired
My first thought was "Huh. I wonder which one?". http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=8894.0
or
http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=8695.0
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 25, 2007, 12:22:17 PM
Post by: K Frame on September 25, 2007, 12:37:12 PM
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 25, 2007, 12:49:24 PM
Post by: K Frame on September 25, 2007, 04:38:21 PM
What you posted was unsubstantiated hearsay.
I did your work for you and posted the proof.
Lazy boy.
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 25, 2007, 05:13:31 PM
Post by: K Frame on September 25, 2007, 08:02:29 PM
Yeah, cause APS is a refereed journal.
Yep, and you've just been assessed a 10 second sloth and indolence penalty.
Post by: Antibubba on September 25, 2007, 08:39:21 PM
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An attorney for Kuehnlein says he is still weighing his options.
I wonder if running the car in a closed garage is one of them?
Post by: SteveS on September 26, 2007, 04:08:46 AM
Curious what options the now-unemployed cop has, short of suing the city...
Sue the city? On what basis - rightful termination? That was my first thought, but I don't know the particulars of his employment contract. He certainly deserves to be fired.
Post by: BrokenPaw on September 26, 2007, 05:29:05 AM
Yeah, cause APS is a refereed journal.
Yep, and you've just been assessed a 10 second sloth and indolence penalty.
Post by: jeepmor on September 26, 2007, 05:36:14 AM
Post by: K Frame on September 26, 2007, 05:37:09 AM
Does your wife know about us yet, or are you still too scared to tell her?
Post by: BrokenPaw on September 26, 2007, 07:30:35 AM
You and I were bickering like an old married couple.
Does your wife know about us yet, or are you still too scared to tell her?
I keep hoping she won't notice. It's much simpler than explaining the existence of someone even more intractable than I am. Does your wife know about us yet, or are you still too scared to tell her?
Post by: Werewolf on September 26, 2007, 09:27:46 AM
That fired cop's buds could - and if the cops there are as bad as some posters in other threads say they are - make the kid's life miserable.
An uncle of mine got caught bangin' the Cleburne, TX, Chief of Police's wife. He lasted about 4 months before he just packed up and moved out. Traffic tickets galore, harassed in bars by off duty cops, threatening calls all night long, kids harassed in school. All added up to just leaving.
This all happened back in the early 60's. Can't imagine what it'd be like now.
Post by: GigaBuist on September 26, 2007, 11:32:28 AM
Post by: HankB on September 26, 2007, 11:50:27 AM
Looks like the cop's buddies are hanging around on Darrow's dead end road now: http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/19/1988.asp
If the story and its implications are on the level, it looks like a more general housecleaning of the department is in order.
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on September 26, 2007, 12:05:04 PM
Post by: RadioFreeSeaLab on September 26, 2007, 12:10:59 PM
Looks like the cop's buddies are hanging around on Darrow's dead end road now: http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/19/1988.asp
That guy needs to watch his back, seriously.
Post by: Tallpine on September 26, 2007, 02:25:23 PM
Post by: Mabs2 on September 26, 2007, 05:20:27 PM
Whoops, I see it now.
Good jorb.
Post by: ilbob on September 26, 2007, 05:38:35 PM
If I were that 20 yr old kid serious consideration would be given to getting the heck out of Dodge.
That fired cop's buds could - and if the cops there are as bad as some posters in other threads say they are - make the kid's life miserable.
An uncle of mine got caught bangin' the Cleburne, TX, Chief of Police's wife. He lasted about 4 months before he just packed up and moved out. Traffic tickets galore, harassed in bars by off duty cops, threatening calls all night long, kids harassed in school. All added up to just leaving.
This all happened back in the early 60's. Can't imagine what it'd be like now.
That fired cop's buds could - and if the cops there are as bad as some posters in other threads say they are - make the kid's life miserable.
An uncle of mine got caught bangin' the Cleburne, TX, Chief of Police's wife. He lasted about 4 months before he just packed up and moved out. Traffic tickets galore, harassed in bars by off duty cops, threatening calls all night long, kids harassed in school. All added up to just leaving.
This all happened back in the early 60's. Can't imagine what it'd be like now.
A guy here about 20-25 years ago got a whole series of speeding tickets while sitting at stop lights. Turned out he had filed a complaint against a local cop. His buddies did not approve of him complaining. Made the paper back when it actually reported real news, as opposed to printing regurgitated press releases.
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 26, 2007, 07:10:50 PM
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Good jorb.
Yeah, jorb are awesome.
Post by: Finch on September 26, 2007, 07:34:47 PM
and even then he keeps his salary and benefits up until he moment he is convicted.
Ummm, isn't that the way it is supposed to be. You know, the whole innocent until proven guilty thing. Not until accused -- until proven.
Post by: Mabs2 on September 27, 2007, 03:42:16 AM
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Good jorb.
Yeah, jorb are awesome.
Yae that's a good jorb thar, Homestar.
Post by: Mabs2 on September 27, 2007, 05:20:47 AM
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/19/1988.asp
Post by: RadioFreeSeaLab on September 27, 2007, 06:09:48 AM
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 27, 2007, 12:16:45 PM
Post by: DustinD on September 27, 2007, 12:49:44 PM
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Ummm, isn't that the way it is supposed to be. You know, the whole innocent until proven guilty thing. Not until accused -- until proven.
Some .gov jobs as well as licenses and such go away the moment you are arrested. Even if the charges are dropped shortly afterwards you are still screwed. I don't necessarily agree with it, but that is the way it is. Personally I don't think it should take a conviction to fire someone depending on the circumstances. In this case they know for a fact that he did several things wrong. Plus the standards for being fired should be a bit lower than being guilty of a felony.
Post by: Werewolf on September 27, 2007, 12:54:29 PM
The kid should be harassed. He's a wiener.
Sarcasm right?
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 27, 2007, 01:40:02 PM
The kid should be harassed. He's a wiener.
Sarcasm right?Kind of. The cop was definitely a bad apple. Glad he was fired. But the kid strikes me as another mouthy brat spoiling for a little attention.
Post by: 280plus on September 27, 2007, 02:15:30 PM
Me, "No, that's not necessary, just tell him he needs to lighten up a bit."
I ain't THAT stupid...
Post by: Balog on September 27, 2007, 02:35:49 PM
Post by: RevDisk on September 27, 2007, 05:59:50 PM
Kind of. The cop was definitely a bad apple. Glad he was fired. But the kid strikes me as another mouthy brat spoiling for a little attention.
I read the transcripts. He sounded a bit whiney at times, but he didn't appear (to me) as significantly mouthing off. 'Mouthy' brats are a bit annoying, but it is not illegal nor a threat to the general public.
An officer who knowingly said on video that he has no problem fabricating charges... Uh. Illegal and definitely a threat to the public. Not to meantion, his career was dead even if he wasn't fired. Any time he filled paperwork on any perp, any defense attorney that was at least half sober could get the charges tossed. Rightfully so. Integrity, my friends, integrity.
Post by: Paddy on September 27, 2007, 06:04:19 PM
Post by: RadioFreeSeaLab on September 27, 2007, 06:05:36 PM
Post by: Paddy on September 27, 2007, 06:08:58 PM
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 27, 2007, 06:39:07 PM
Kind of. The cop was definitely a bad apple. Glad he was fired. But the kid strikes me as another mouthy brat spoiling for a little attention.
I read the transcripts. He sounded a bit whiney at times, but he didn't appear (to me) as significantly mouthing off. 'Mouthy' brats are a bit annoying, but it is not illegal nor a threat to the general public.
Well, duh. I wasn't defending the cop. Again, duh. Kid just rubs me the wrong way is all. Lighten up, folks.
Post by: Phyphor on September 27, 2007, 07:00:55 PM
Most likely, the only thing he'll be "making up" will probably come with fries.
Post by: Bogie on September 27, 2007, 07:11:25 PM
Post by: Mabs2 on September 28, 2007, 05:31:53 AM
He doesn't deserve this.
Post by: Gewehr98 on September 28, 2007, 07:52:19 AM
As I said before, the kid had better make himself small - or get ready to move to a different town under a new identity.
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 28, 2007, 12:14:28 PM
Post by: Mabs2 on September 28, 2007, 05:04:41 PM
Let me clarify that I don't think this guy, or anyone else, deserves illegal harassment. Although I can see why it looked like I did.
It looked like you did because you are a jerkface, but we forgive you because you're a hilarious jerkface.So don't worry about it.
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 28, 2007, 06:08:21 PM
Post by: Phyphor on September 28, 2007, 07:11:17 PM
Post by: Mabs2 on September 29, 2007, 05:09:42 AM
Well you're a wiener, and I hope you are harassed by cops. A lot.
Yea!? Well I'm prettier than you!
Post by: Ben on September 30, 2007, 06:01:59 AM
Post by: Mabs2 on September 30, 2007, 06:09:21 AM
Complete thread tangent, but the jamisjockey quote in mbs357's sig line made me spit coffee.
That's what it's there for. Which reminds me, I haven't mailed off the blackmail notice. No wonder I haven't gotten any large sums of money injected into my bank account in the hopes of persuading me to remove a certain line of text...