Post by: Patriot on October 11, 2007, 11:52:48 AM
I *love* how the Fox News shows a picture of all these dangerous-looking guns, then says
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The weapons found included a 9 mm assault rifle that the teenager's mother had recently bought for him, Castor said. Police also found about 30 air-powered guns, plus swords, knives, hand grenades, a bomb-making book, videos of the 1999 Columbine attack in Colorado and violence-filled notebooks. The weapons were plainly visible in the boy's bedroom, Castor said.
They found no ammunition for the most dangerous weapon, the assault rifle.
They found no ammunition for the most dangerous weapon, the assault rifle.
So he has ONE "real" gun (probably a Hi-Point carbine - how many other 9mm 'assault weapons' are there), a bunch of airsoft guns, cheap Chicom crap knives/swords, the anarchist cookbook, probably non-explosive grenade-shaped bb containers, and 'disturbed kiddo' paraphernalia. There probably wasn't even any real ammo.
Sounds like the kid is disturbed. This whole thing apparently came to light after he tried to talk some student into helping him (said student went straight to police). Allegations of confessing to police about planning a "Columbine-type" attack on a local public school. Article said he's charged with 'solicitation to commit terror.' I don't really have a problem with that. The 'weapon cache' and 'homeschooler' aspects are going to be hyped out of all proportion. That I do have a problem with.
Post by: Manedwolf on October 11, 2007, 12:02:06 PM
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on October 11, 2007, 12:53:24 PM
might be a good call after all.
Post by: Patriot on October 11, 2007, 01:08:02 PM
Article says one of the grenades was live. might be a good call after all.
might be a good call after all.Didn't say it wasn't.
I take issue with this:
and this:
and the fact that the news is making a big deal that he's homeschooled. What does that have to do with anything? You don't see "Black student goes on shooting spree" headlines about the Cleveland shooting.
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on October 11, 2007, 01:25:39 PM
The pics are silly though. And deliberately misleading. Most of those are probably airsoft, not even bb-guns.
Post by: yesitsloaded on October 11, 2007, 01:39:23 PM
Post by: Waitone on October 11, 2007, 01:43:57 PM
Post by: Manedwolf on October 11, 2007, 01:52:17 PM
It's illegal for kids to have airsoft...?
Post by: MechAg94 on October 11, 2007, 01:54:39 PM
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Authorities also found one working hand grenade and three others that were still being assembled.
This could just mean that the spring is loaded so the handle will fly off. They didn't actually say it would explode. These police departments always seem to be creative in their wording to make things sound worse than they are.It is great that they have a chance to talk or council the kid on his problems, but the "arsenal" is rediculous.
Post by: Manedwolf on October 11, 2007, 02:07:47 PM
WTF?
Post by: yesitsloaded on October 11, 2007, 02:36:54 PM
Post by: Boomhauer on October 11, 2007, 05:40:29 PM
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making a big deal that he's homeschooled. What does that have to do with anything
Well, don't you know? Every
Homeschooling is just plain evil, as evidenced by this article.
Post by: SteveS on October 11, 2007, 09:39:43 PM
and the fact that the news is making a big deal that he's homeschooled. What does that have to do with anything? You don't see "Black student goes on shooting spree" headlines about the Cleveland shooting.
I think you are being overly sensitive.
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The 14-year-old, who authorities said had felt bullied, was taken into custody after police raided his home in the Philadelphia suburbs on Wednesday evening. He had talked about mounting an attack on Plymouth Whitemarsh High School similar to the 1999 massacre at Colorado's Columbine High School, authorities said.
His educational background is going to be of interest if the above statement is true. Besides, articles about people frequently contain background info about them. If it is an adult, they say where they lived and worked. If it is a child, where they are a student.
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Well, don't you know? Every young slave valued child must be under government oppression in public school. Home schooling just doesn't teach them to worship and obey the government everything they need to know, in the right manner.
Homeschooling is just plain evil, as evidenced by this article.
Homeschooling is just plain evil, as evidenced by this article.
Darn right, comrade. This is the first step in the plan to outlaw homeschooling.
Post by: jefnvk on October 12, 2007, 06:39:39 AM
Anyone ever see these fusing devices on sale to the public?
Post by: Sylvilagus Aquaticus on October 12, 2007, 08:34:48 PM
The news is now saying that they're considering charges against the parents for letting him have the "massive arsenal" shown there, not just the hi-point.
It's illegal for kids to have airsoft...?
It's illegal for kids to have airsoft...?
It is in Plano, Frisco, and Garland, TX. For that matter, any 'realistic appearing toy gun'. That really stinks my cheese.
Regards,
Rabbit.
Post by: Manedwolf on October 12, 2007, 09:37:43 PM
Apparently, military surplus dewatted grenades are easy to rebuild, if you have blackpowder and the fusing device, according to the expert on Fox News Channel.
Anyone ever see these fusing devices on sale to the public?
Anyone ever see these fusing devices on sale to the public?
Would blackpowder have enough power to shatter even the prestressed shell of those? I'd think it'd just be a small cannon.
Post by: slzy on October 13, 2007, 08:47:17 AM
Post by: Barbara on October 13, 2007, 06:29:09 PM
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"Black student goes on shooting spree"
Eh, the kid was white. The school was majority black, but Asa Coon is white.
Post by: Gewehr98 on October 13, 2007, 07:10:38 PM
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Apparently, military surplus dewatted grenades are easy to rebuild, if you have blackpowder and the fusing device, according to the expert on Fox News Channel.
Anyone ever see these fusing devices on sale to the public?
Anyone ever see these fusing devices on sale to the public?
No, and I have a few of those dewatted grenades as desk paperweights in my office. The last time I saw the press releases, they said the kid needed cannon fuze or something similar to make his grenades work.
Looking at my own grenades with their bottoms machined out and fuzes gone, I believe it would take less work to go to the hardware store and buy some threaded pipe sections and end caps, then proceed from there. Throw some ball bearings or nails in there if you're looking for shrapnel effects. Now watch, we'll have to sign registration logs to buy plumbing supplies...
Post by: doczinn on October 13, 2007, 08:45:11 PM
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Asa Coon is white
And it's a damn lucky thing for Mr. Coon that he is!