Post by: RadioFreeSeaLab on October 28, 2007, 01:10:45 PM
http://www.cnnheadlienews.com/2007/US/10/25/fire.mecha/index.html
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ORANGE COUNTY, California (CNN) -- Radical Hispanic separatist organization MEChA ("Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan") is taking responsibility for setting the wildfires in California, confimed Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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Firefighter Luke Perisin sets a backfire Wednesday against the Santiago Fire in Live Oak Canyon, California.
California officials received a letter earlier today containing photographs of individuals holding Molotov cocktails, then throwing them into dry brush. The faces of the individuals appeared to have been digitally distorted.
Also included was a rambling manifesto, stating that the reason for the act of arson was that "Aztl?n belongs to indigenous people, the Chicanas and Chicanos of Aztl?n. We are sovereign and not subject to a foreign culture."
Orange County Fire Battalion Chief Kris Concepcion told CNN that the pattern of wildfires definitely indicates arson.
"The reason we think it is [arson] is because we found multiple points of origin," Concepcion said. "... Our investigators have confirmed that this is, in fact, arson."
Concepcion said evidence indicated the arsonists wanted the fire to grow rapidly.
A $70,000 reward is being offered for any information leading to the arrest of those responsible for setting the fire. No suspects have been identified, though they are probably brown.
The state established a toll-free arson tip line at 800-540-7085. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said anyone convicted of arson would be dealt with harshly.
Concepcion said about 1,100 firefighters were working on controlling the blaze, which has destroyed at least 22 structures. The California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection said the fire was only 30 percent contained Thursday morning after being 50 percent contained the day before.
Concepcion said onshore winds Thursday morning should help firefighters "get the upper hand on this thing." Video Watch the Santiago flames rage ?
"For someone to even think about doing something as reprehensible as starting a fire where they knew the fire would grow as rapidly as it would -- traveling about three, 3 ? miles in about an hour -- is just really absolutely unconscionable," he said
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Firefighter Luke Perisin sets a backfire Wednesday against the Santiago Fire in Live Oak Canyon, California.
California officials received a letter earlier today containing photographs of individuals holding Molotov cocktails, then throwing them into dry brush. The faces of the individuals appeared to have been digitally distorted.
Also included was a rambling manifesto, stating that the reason for the act of arson was that "Aztl?n belongs to indigenous people, the Chicanas and Chicanos of Aztl?n. We are sovereign and not subject to a foreign culture."
Orange County Fire Battalion Chief Kris Concepcion told CNN that the pattern of wildfires definitely indicates arson.
"The reason we think it is [arson] is because we found multiple points of origin," Concepcion said. "... Our investigators have confirmed that this is, in fact, arson."
Concepcion said evidence indicated the arsonists wanted the fire to grow rapidly.
A $70,000 reward is being offered for any information leading to the arrest of those responsible for setting the fire. No suspects have been identified, though they are probably brown.
The state established a toll-free arson tip line at 800-540-7085. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said anyone convicted of arson would be dealt with harshly.
Concepcion said about 1,100 firefighters were working on controlling the blaze, which has destroyed at least 22 structures. The California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection said the fire was only 30 percent contained Thursday morning after being 50 percent contained the day before.
Concepcion said onshore winds Thursday morning should help firefighters "get the upper hand on this thing." Video Watch the Santiago flames rage ?
"For someone to even think about doing something as reprehensible as starting a fire where they knew the fire would grow as rapidly as it would -- traveling about three, 3 ? miles in about an hour -- is just really absolutely unconscionable," he said
Post by: CAnnoneer on October 28, 2007, 01:27:28 PM
Post by: RadioFreeSeaLab on October 28, 2007, 01:32:13 PM
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A $70,000 reward is being offered for any information leading to the arrest of those responsible for setting the fire. No suspects have been identified, though they are probably brown.
That part made me laugh.
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 28, 2007, 01:41:24 PM
Post by: Sindawe on October 28, 2007, 01:44:12 PM
Ch'rowling untermenchen petaQs!!! I'd suspected (though hoped I was wrong) that such would happen eventually. Would that the State of California set a nice bounty on MEChA-ist ears.
Post by: De Selby on October 28, 2007, 01:45:35 PM
Notice that while they're specific with widely reported facts, the supposed evidence for MeCha being behind the fires is a letter "received by California officials."
If I had to bet now, I'd bet that "head lie" news was true to its name and completely made this story up. But I'll be waiting to see what credible information follows on this thead.
Post by: Sindawe on October 28, 2007, 01:50:03 PM
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I think it's natural to read from a source that calls itself "head lie" news with a healthy amount of skepticism.
ARRRGGHHH!!! Thats what I get for posting when most of my mind is focused on making "free-ware" work with Microsoft products.
: banghead :
Post by: RadioFreeSeaLab on October 28, 2007, 01:51:31 PM
Post by: De Selby on October 28, 2007, 03:27:37 PM
ooo. Good catch shootinstudent. I maybe have been had.
Happens to the best of us-and it's not like the basic story is completely unrealistic.
Post by: Manedwolf on October 28, 2007, 03:34:06 PM
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No suspects have been identified, though they are probably brown.
CNN would not write something like that. That sounds like something from Stormfront.
Post by: 280plus on October 28, 2007, 04:01:26 PM
Post by: RevDisk on October 28, 2007, 04:04:33 PM
ooo. Good catch shootinstudent. I maybe have been had.
The domain is registered to:
Bleachboy Heavy Manufacturing
701 Arbor Creek Way
Nashville, TN 37217-5053
US
(615) 260-4931
The owner of the server is Don Moore at bboy@bboy.net. The name and email have been verified.
Owner is running Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) PHP/4.4.1 mod_ssl/2.8.22 OpenSSL/0.9.7e. DNS is handled through DirectNIC. Also running myDNS (on SQL) and BbBoard software on the same server. Owner is actually a decent programmer too.
Post by: Mabs2 on October 28, 2007, 04:56:30 PM
Ch'rowling untermenchen petaQs!!! tlhIngan maH!
Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam!!
nuqDaq 'oH puchpa''e'
Post by: Manedwolf on October 28, 2007, 06:15:11 PM
Post by: CAnnoneer on October 28, 2007, 07:41:37 PM
Was that an attempt at Firefly Mandarin profanity...?
Nah. It is just Klingoni.
Post by: Mabs2 on October 28, 2007, 08:06:04 PM
Was that an attempt at Firefly Mandarin profanity...?
Wuh duh ma huh tah duh fong kwong duh wai shung.Dong ma?
Itadakimasu!
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 28, 2007, 08:06:38 PM
Whether they were responsible for all, some or none of the fires - it was a big mistake.
Oh, the mistake was mine.
Post by: Tallpine on October 29, 2007, 06:34:44 AM
Post by: StopTheGrays on October 29, 2007, 07:27:04 AM
So when do we invade Mexico
Mexico??? You mean South Cali.
Post by: Sergeant Bob on October 29, 2007, 07:45:58 AM
Post by: Finch on October 29, 2007, 08:23:02 AM
Mexico??? You mean South Cali.
Not much of a difference...
Post by: Manedwolf on October 29, 2007, 08:27:09 AM
While they may not have done this, and while it was a racist bad joke, MechA is still quite nearly a terrorist organization, and that guy who put up the article was stupid. That's a good way to end up with a Columbian necktie or the like.
Post by: longeyes on October 29, 2007, 08:49:22 AM
Plenty is wrong.
We are at war with Mexico. And from what I can see Mexico is winning.
Post by: Sergeant Bob on October 29, 2007, 08:56:55 AM
Doing a google on the name of the guy who put it up, MechA and La Raza and the like did notice, and were disseminating his name.
While they may not have done this, and while it was a racist bad joke, MechA is still quite nearly a terrorist organization, and that guy who put up the article was stupid. That's a good way to end up with a Columbian necktie or the like.
While they may not have done this, and while it was a racist bad joke, MechA is still quite nearly a terrorist organization, and that guy who put up the article was stupid. That's a good way to end up with a Columbian necktie or the like.
What name did you Google? I couldn't find anything saying MechA and La Raza were disseminating anyone's name.
As far as I could find, the Fire Chief and the fire fighter mentioned are real and mentioned only otherwise listed in legitimate news stories. This Don Moore (a very common name) comes up in just about everything except in relation to terrorist Mexican organizations.
Post by: Manedwolf on October 29, 2007, 09:03:34 AM
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What name did you Google?
The "Bleachboy Heavy Industries" that put it up.
Post by: Sergeant Bob on October 29, 2007, 09:28:42 AM
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What name did you Google?
The "Bleachboy Heavy Industries" that put it up.
Nothing found with that name either.