Post by: Manedwolf on November 21, 2007, 04:58:05 AM
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PARIS, Nov. 21 Transit union leaders met with Frances state-owned rail operator and the government today in the opening round of negotiations that came on the eighth day of strikes, a day that was punctuated by arson fires along high-speed rail lines.
The national rail service, S.N.C.F., blamed the fires on a concerted act of sabotage and said there were several blazes along rail lines, including one that damaged 30 kilometers of a signal network.
S.N.C.F. also reported the deliberate shutting of signal switches and arson attacks on cables.
Dominique Bussereau, the state secretary of transport, denounced the fires as grave and reprehensible acts that appeared to be coordinated.
The national rail service, S.N.C.F., blamed the fires on a concerted act of sabotage and said there were several blazes along rail lines, including one that damaged 30 kilometers of a signal network.
S.N.C.F. also reported the deliberate shutting of signal switches and arson attacks on cables.
Dominique Bussereau, the state secretary of transport, denounced the fires as grave and reprehensible acts that appeared to be coordinated.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/22/world/europe/22france.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
The good news is that the people of France are getting disgusted with this strike. After a week of three-hour commutes to get a couple of miles, their image of socialism isn't so pretty anymore, and we could well see a much stronger free market incentive.
Post by: HankB on November 21, 2007, 05:38:57 AM
Why is it always the leftists who break other people's stuff, from this to overturning and setting fire to other peoples' cars?
You expect parasites who believe they have a "right" to the fruits of other people's labor to respect other people's property? 
Post by: Werewolf on November 21, 2007, 06:42:03 AM
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You expect parasites who believe they have a "right" to the fruits of other people's labor to respect other people's property?
+1
And - that is a quote worth remembering. Defines socialists and some others to a tee...
Post by: wooderson on November 21, 2007, 09:54:16 AM
Has manedwolf stopped beating his wife yet?
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Post by: gunsmith on November 24, 2007, 12:27:06 AM
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Why is it always the leftists who break other people's stuff, from this to overturning and setting fire to other peoples' cars?
Q why does it take a 30 Berkeley radicals to change a light bulb?
A (said in a huff, hands on hips) BECAUSE IT DOES!
Post by: gunsmith on November 24, 2007, 12:30:50 AM
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Why is it always the leftists who break other people's stuff, from this to overturning and setting fire to other peoples' cars?
A They are related to the leftist wacko's who stop electric buses and cable cars in the holy city of San Francisco to protest "the war for oil" (electric transport that don't use oil)
Post by: gunsmith on November 24, 2007, 12:32:21 AM
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Why is it always the leftists who break other people's stuff, from this to overturning and setting fire to other peoples' cars?
A because they are tired from setting disabled women on fire like they did last year?
Post by: geronimotwo on November 24, 2007, 04:59:47 AM
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They are related to the leftist wacko's who stop electric buses and cable cars in the holy city of San Francisco to protest "the war for oil" (electric transport that don't use oil)
yeah, electricity grows on trees!
considering the number of conspiracy theories out there, has anyone thought to mention that it could be the state (working to discredit the union), that has set these fires. i think both sides know that public opinion goes a long way towards ending a strike. but i guess in this case the media must be telling the truth, as they are "leftist's" after all.....
Post by: Laurent du Var on November 24, 2007, 05:48:33 AM
I live in the South and ride my Vespa all year long.
Strike this and strike that we need to get more money
from the gouvernment, we don't care where they take it from
we know it must be somewhere. Taking people hostage and destroying
property to fatten up their pension funds and stop working at 55.
They don't even believe it themselves anymore, after nine days it's over and they got zilch. Nada, Niente. For me striking railway emploiees and rioting arabs are the same. We had 26 years of crap weasel presidency. One president threw money out of the window when the economy was good and the other one just left the window open for his good buddies and to get some from the dough back for himself. Investigations were started on two counts against Chirac and that's just the tip of the Iceberg. As a mayor of Paris he had the occupants of the P?re Lachaise cemetary voting for him. I kid you not.
After 26 years of sucking the blood out of the public body the parasites actually believe they own the host.
Post by: gunsmith on November 25, 2007, 01:59:57 AM
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yeah, electricity grows on trees!
considering the number of conspiracy theories out there, has anyone thought to mention that it could be the state (working to discredit the union), that has set these fires. i think both sides know that public opinion goes a long way towards ending a strike. but i guess in this case the media must be telling the truth, as they are "leftist's" after all.....
considering the number of conspiracy theories out there, has anyone thought to mention that it could be the state (working to discredit the union), that has set these fires. i think both sides know that public opinion goes a long way towards ending a strike. but i guess in this case the media must be telling the truth, as they are "leftist's" after all.....
Some of San Francisco energy does in fact come from alt sources.
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has anyone thought to mention that it could be the state (working to discredit the union)
Only the same people who tell me that climate change is real because it was warm in Wyoming in July and now it is cold in Wyoming, oh & did you know that Cheney is from Wyoming?
This is also proof positive that building 7 was imploded.
Post by: geronimotwo on November 25, 2007, 02:13:56 AM
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Only the same people who tell me that climate change is real because it was warm in Wyoming in July and now it is cold in Wyoming, oh & did you know that Cheney is from Wyoming?
This is also proof positive that building 7 was imploded.
This is also proof positive that building 7 was imploded.
lol, but seriously, i never could understand how a labor group could do something like setting fires to get their point across. it would just turn public sentiment against them and make it that much harder to gain footing to get their demands.
Post by: MechAg94 on November 25, 2007, 06:29:40 AM
My Dad worked in a journeyman union that was pretty good and now gives him a pension, but he had some control over who worked for him on jobs. He would admit that he saw plenty of the entitlement attitude. His opinion was always that if he didn't make money for the company, they wouldn't be able to afford to pay him.
Post by: Manedwolf on November 25, 2007, 06:51:56 AM
As a mayor of Paris he had the occupants of the P?re Lachaise cemetary voting for him. I kid you not.
You mean they didn't bother with the massive group of voters down in the Catacombs? Mayor Daley of Chicago could have taught him a thing or two about how to get dead people to vote for you.
Post by: Sergeant Bob on November 25, 2007, 07:19:53 AM
His opinion was always that if he didn't make money for the company, they wouldn't be able to afford to pay him.
Thats an attitude which is sorely lacking in a lot of unions, and so very true.
Post by: MechAg94 on November 25, 2007, 04:59:20 PM
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Post by: ilbob on November 26, 2007, 05:47:48 AM
[considering the number of conspiracy theories out there, has anyone thought to mention that it could be the state (working to discredit the union), that has set these fires. i think both sides know that public opinion goes a long way towards ending a strike. but i guess in this case the media must be telling the truth, as they are "leftist's" after all.....
It would be near impossible for some government entity in France to do anything that was not immediately reported to the communists and unions. They all but own most of the government in France. That would tend to make it highly unlikely that the government set fire to its own rail lines. Not impossible, but nearly so. Sort of like the whack jobs that think Bush blew up the WTC. Considering that tens or maybe hundreds of thousands of people would have had to be in on it at some level, the chances of keeping such a wide ranging conspiracy quiet is close to nil.
Post by: K Frame on November 26, 2007, 06:08:20 AM
Post by: Sawdust on November 26, 2007, 10:00:10 AM
Investigations were started on two counts against Chirac and that's just the tip of the Iceberg. As a mayor of Paris he had the occupants of the P?re Lachaise cemetary voting for him. I kid you not.
P?re Lachaise is the coolest cemetary...major spooky place when the weather is overcast and drizzling.
Sawdust