Post by: roo_ster on November 23, 2007, 11:37:55 AM
Quote from: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=495495&in_page_id=1879
Had Toni Vernelli gone ahead with her pregnancy ten years ago, she would know at first hand what it is like to cradle her own baby, to have a pair of innocent eyes gazing up at her with unconditional love, to feel a little hand slipping into hers - and a voice calling her Mummy.
But the very thought makes her shudder with horror.
Because when Toni terminated her pregnancy, she did so in the firm belief she was helping to save the planet.
Incredibly, so determined was she that the terrible "mistake" of pregnancy should never happen again, that she begged the doctor who performed the abortion to sterilise her at the same time.
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At the age of 27 this young woman at the height of her reproductive years was sterilised to "protect the planet".
But the very thought makes her shudder with horror.
Because when Toni terminated her pregnancy, she did so in the firm belief she was helping to save the planet.
Incredibly, so determined was she that the terrible "mistake" of pregnancy should never happen again, that she begged the doctor who performed the abortion to sterilise her at the same time.
...
At the age of 27 this young woman at the height of her reproductive years was sterilised to "protect the planet".
It couldn't have happened to a better candidate. I am reminded of James Taranto's idea of the "Roe Effect," where liberals become fewer relative to conservatives over time becasue so many potential liberals get aborted.
Truly, it is stuff like this that makes environmentalism look like a substitute for religion.
Post by: Len Budney on November 23, 2007, 11:54:55 AM
Truly, it is stuff like this that makes environmentalism look like a substitute for religion.
Yup. Liberals going natural selection one better.
--Len.
Post by: lee n. field on November 23, 2007, 12:43:24 PM
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It couldn't have happened to a better candidate. I am reminded of James Taranto's idea of the "Roe Effect," where liberals become fewer relative to conservatives over time becasue so many potential liberals get aborted.
Leftism is a slow motion death cult.
Post by: drewtam on November 23, 2007, 01:13:07 PM
Post by: Iain on November 23, 2007, 01:57:00 PM
Seriously, sometimes a whole lot of hateful nonsense appears here.
Post by: Stand_watie on November 23, 2007, 03:04:20 PM
Cos liberalism is not just a mental disorder, it's also a genetic one.
Seriously, sometimes a whole lot of hateful nonsense appears here.
Seriously, sometimes a whole lot of hateful nonsense appears here.
Regarding denigration of leftist philosophy?
Couldn't disagree with you more if that's your feeling.
Regarding cavalier attitudes towards the taking of human life (regardless of the human's parentage)?
Couldn't agree with you more if that's your feeling.
Post by: roo_ster on November 23, 2007, 03:11:39 PM
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It couldn't have happened to a better candidate.
Just to be clear, I am referring to the sterilization, not the abortion. I suspect the sterilization prevented more abortions in enviro-nutter's future.Post by: Thor on November 23, 2007, 03:19:43 PM
The following definitions are what I see the REAL meaning of "liberal":
....favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
....favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, esp. as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.
....favoring or permitting freedom of action, esp. with respect to matters of personal belief or expression: a liberal policy toward dissident artists and writers.
....of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies.
....free from prejudice or bigotry; tolerant: a liberal attitude toward foreigners.
....open-minded or tolerant, esp. free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.
....characterized by generosity and willingness to give in large amounts: a liberal donor.
....given freely or abundantly; generous: a liberal donation.
....not strict or rigorous; free; not literal: a liberal interpretation of a rule.
....of, pertaining to, or befitting a freeman.
Post by: Sergeant Bob on November 23, 2007, 04:03:57 PM
I really HATE how the word, "Liberal" has been hijacked. Our founding fathers were "Liberals".
The following definitions are what I see the REAL meaning of "liberal":
....of, pertaining to, or befitting a freeman.
The following definitions are what I see the REAL meaning of "liberal":
....of, pertaining to, or befitting a freeman.
And "gay" means "happy".
Post by: roo_ster on November 23, 2007, 04:07:53 PM
Friday, November 23, 2007
Not with a bang but a whimper [Mark Steyn]
By the way, regarding that English lady who sterilized herself to save the planet, I wouldn't mind betting that voluntary, environmentally responsible, civilizational self-extinction catches on big time as the logical end-point of western progressivism. Even a smart guy like Lord May, (one of Australia's most eminent scientists, former advisor to the British Government, etc), finds the fall in global fertility encouraging without appreciating that this trend is not evenly distributed, and that it's precisely those groups that profess to care most about the environment - Western Europeans, Canadians, Vermonters, San Franciscans - that are self-liquidating the fastest. If you've ever seen the trash in small Yemeni villages or even in Bedouin encampments, the environment doesn't seem to be a big priority. But they'll be the ones left to man the Greenpeace offices.
Not with a bang but a whimper [Mark Steyn]
By the way, regarding that English lady who sterilized herself to save the planet, I wouldn't mind betting that voluntary, environmentally responsible, civilizational self-extinction catches on big time as the logical end-point of western progressivism. Even a smart guy like Lord May, (one of Australia's most eminent scientists, former advisor to the British Government, etc), finds the fall in global fertility encouraging without appreciating that this trend is not evenly distributed, and that it's precisely those groups that profess to care most about the environment - Western Europeans, Canadians, Vermonters, San Franciscans - that are self-liquidating the fastest. If you've ever seen the trash in small Yemeni villages or even in Bedouin encampments, the environment doesn't seem to be a big priority. But they'll be the ones left to man the Greenpeace offices.
Post by: Fly320s on November 24, 2007, 06:14:14 AM
There are too many Al Gore types who say one thing, "Global Warming Climate Change!! Stop burning fossil fuel," but do something diametrically opposite, "I live in a giant mansion that uses more fossil fuel in a month than your house does in a year. And I fly on private jets."
I can't stand the hypocrits. At least this lady has the guts to do what she is telling others to do.
Post by: geronimotwo on November 24, 2007, 06:46:29 AM
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At least this lady has the guts to do what she is telling others to do
. +1
of course in a democracy you gotta have the "go ye forth and populate the earth" idealism. otherwise you're dead in the water.
personally, i beleive that over population will take its toll on our resources. every day that the populace grows brings us closer to a non-selfsustaining environment.
Post by: El Tejon on November 24, 2007, 07:43:59 AM
Hip, hip, hooray! I want to take out large billboards in San Fransico, Boston, New York City, D.C., L.A., inter alia and encourage that is hip to be sterilized!
"Shoot blanks for the Earth!"
"Mother Earth does not need your ovaries"
Something like that. Let the Left exterminate themselves. How wonderful! Let's hop it catches on with the young hipster Leftists.
Post by: Scout26 on November 24, 2007, 09:34:21 AM
Post by: Antibubba on November 24, 2007, 11:07:18 AM
Good on ya, Toni!
Post by: Silver Bullet on November 24, 2007, 07:36:53 PM
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I really HATE how the word, "Liberal" has been hijacked. Our founding fathers were "Liberals".
Absolutely correct. Many of today's Democrats are socialists hiding behind a facade of liberalism. They wish they could be like the classical liberals of yesteryear.For that matter, so are many Republicans.
Post by: jeepmor on November 25, 2007, 04:33:58 AM
Post by: Manedwolf on November 26, 2007, 04:42:42 AM
It's for the planet, dude! Go for it!
Post by: K Frame on November 26, 2007, 05:05:48 AM
"Of course, the environmental impact of elective surgery is quite significant (energy, plastics, hazardous medical waste, etc.). It was clearly too much of an inconvenience to just not f-k anyone."
Post by: roo_ster on November 26, 2007, 05:38:14 AM
But, then you have a Conflict of Lefty Pieties: Enviro-Nuttery vs Hump Everything with a Pulse.
Almost as interesting a Conflict of Lefty Pieties as the hunting of whales with .50BMG-chambered rifles by indians vs the Save the Whalers
Post by: Creeping Incrementalism on November 26, 2007, 07:04:39 AM
I propose placing these on the Berkeley campus, and anywhere this sort of whacko gets their start. Also anywhere emo sorts gather.
It's for the planet, dude! Go for it!
It's for the planet, dude! Go for it!
How about we stick them below the oak trees by Memorial Stadium.
And actually, when I was at Berkeley, students suiciding in spectacular ways wasn't that big a deal. It was like, "Hey did you hear that someone jumped to his death from [such and such 6-story] Hall last semester." "No." "Me neither".
Post by: geronimotwo on November 26, 2007, 11:24:40 AM
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Hip, hip, hooray! I want to take out large billboards in San Fransico, Boston, New York City, D.C., L.A., inter alia and encourage that is hip to be sterilized!
this was actually done in oakland ca. there was a billboard promoting sterilization where they (i have forgotten the orgs name.) would pay $800 for a woman to have herself sterilized. of course there was a big stink, as someone felt that it took advantage of the high (ha) amount of drug users in the area who would then take the money to get a fix.
Post by: Antibubba on November 27, 2007, 06:55:03 AM
Funny those people didn't jump forward to adopt all the crack babies.
Post by: Brad Johnson on November 27, 2007, 07:36:07 AM
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she begged the doctor who performed the abortion to sterilise her at the same time.
Maybe the rest of the environuts will follow her example.
Brad
Post by: Manedwolf on November 27, 2007, 10:13:37 AM
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Hip, hip, hooray! I want to take out large billboards in San Fransico, Boston, New York City, D.C., L.A., inter alia and encourage that is hip to be sterilized!
this was actually done in oakland ca. there was a billboard promoting sterilization where they (i have forgotten the orgs name.) would pay $800 for a woman to have herself sterilized. of course there was a big stink, as someone felt that it took advantage of the high (ha) amount of drug users in the area who would then take the money to get a fix.
And sterilized drug users is a problem?