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Title: I just pulled a stupid *now with pics*
Post by: mgdavis on December 09, 2007, 11:34:35 AM
Cut a sandwich with my pocket knife, then went to wipe the mayo off with a napkin. Had the blade turned a bit, cut the heck out of my left pointer finger. Lots o' blood, had pressure and elevation going for 30 min or so but it's still going. I'm probably going to have to go home from work, dripping blood on patients is frowned upon.

The cut's at least a quarter inch deep, doesn't hurt too bad at least. I'm kind of mad at myself, I haven't done anything like this in quite a while.

CRK&T M21-04.
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid
Post by: K Frame on December 09, 2007, 11:54:24 AM
Have any corn starch or flour?

Put about 1/4 to 1/2 of an inch in the bottom of a dish and push your finger into it nice and hard.

The starch will gelatinize and help seal the wound temporarily.
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid
Post by: Balog on December 09, 2007, 12:01:15 PM
That seems somehow.... unsanitary.
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid
Post by: K Frame on December 09, 2007, 12:10:19 PM
Flour or cornstarch coming out of a sack is quite sanitary.
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid
Post by: Balog on December 09, 2007, 12:18:20 PM
But wouldn't having food type material imbedded into the wound foster infection?
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid
Post by: mgdavis on December 09, 2007, 12:42:19 PM
Well, my coworker talked me into walking down to the Emergency Department. First time I've been a patient at a hospital since shortly after I was born. By the time I made it down there I was working on pretty embarrassed, especially because it wasn't doing more than just oozing when I unwrapped it. If I'd been at home I would have just used a butterfly closure and a bandaid, I didn't get much more than that as it was.
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid
Post by: member1313 on December 09, 2007, 12:47:15 PM
This reminds me of when I was playing with an Exact-O knife blade in middle school, and went to carve something into a desk. I used the wrong side of the blade, and pushing the razor into my pointer finger almost to the bone.

Fun.
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid
Post by: mgdavis on December 09, 2007, 12:50:12 PM
On the plus side, it was a dang good sammich. grin
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid
Post by: Fly320s on December 09, 2007, 12:58:53 PM
Let me get this straight.

You cut yourself while at work in a hospital, yet you didn't seek medical attention because you were embarrased?

What would you say to a patient who did that?  police
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid
Post by: grislyatoms on December 09, 2007, 01:00:24 PM
On the plus side, it was a dang good sammich. grin

I hope so, if cutting the bejeebus out of yourself is part of the recipe. grin

Ahh yeah, X-Acto blades. I stuck one into my finger one time trying to clean the molding flash off a metal figurine. Opened up the knuckle pretty well and it bled like crazy.
We had a drunk guy here at the hospital try to lance an abscess in his mouth with an X-Acto blade. I didn't see it but heard about it. Apparently, he did a good number on himself before he decided to come on in. shocked
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid
Post by: K Frame on December 09, 2007, 01:19:32 PM
But wouldn't having food type material imbedded into the wound foster infection?

We're talking purified starch -- carbohydrates -- and some protein, not a ham sandwich.

Essentially what you're doing is making your own ersatz gelfoam (gelatin based).

I would not want to, however, spread the cut wide and force the material deeply into the wound, and that's not what I was suggesting.

Pressing your finger straight down into the flour will cause a little of it to be packed into the upper surface layer of the wound, but the blood will gelatinize that layer very quickly, essentially forming a seal that will help hold blood and and keep more of the flour from being forced into the wound.

In essence, if it's bleeding heavily enough, you make your own compaction dressing.

Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid
Post by: K Frame on December 09, 2007, 01:22:58 PM
Don't feel bad, MG. One of the women I work with used to be a nurse.

She was at work one day when they were still using replacable-blade scalpels.

As she was changing the blade, it slipped and put a VICIOUS gash across her palm and partially severed the one tendon in her thumb. She said the rush of blood was as if someone had dropped an IV.
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid
Post by: The Viking on December 09, 2007, 01:42:05 PM
Don't feel bad, MG. One of the women I work with used to be a nurse.

She was at work one day when they were still using replacable-blade scalpels.

As she was changing the blade, it slipped and put a VICIOUS gash across her palm and partially severed the one tendon in her thumb. She said the rush of blood was as if someone had dropped an IV.
I work at a slaughterhouse, so there is often someone who cuts himself. One guy managed to do it seven times. One time he blamed me, after he cut himself on the inside of his lower left arm. I was standing on his right side. No one believed him laugh. Poor guy was terribly frightened of needles and such grin. Too bad he needed to be stitched back together on all occasions grin.

Though there's been some more nasty accidents. One guy almost killed himself when he slipped and made a nice, long gash, running along most of his arm...one guy cut some tendons in his hand, after finding a knife in a drain that was plugged...
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid
Post by: Thor on December 09, 2007, 01:46:14 PM
I use superglue. shocked  I DID learn to check for tendon damage before doing that. Cut into my thumb with a hacksaw (The piece I was cutting on sheared before I realized it). I was tempted to superglue it, but something told me not to do that. Turns out I cut both tendons in my thumb. I have used it on other cuts that probably would have required a suture or three.
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid
Post by: BobR on December 09, 2007, 07:32:59 PM
Superglue and duct tape. As long as the finger still flexes and extends, that is all it takes. The last time I sliced myself was with a brand new Shun knife as I was distracted while removing some fat from a brisket. That cut oozed for about 3 days, probably should have had stitches, but why? It healed very nicely, no scarring, no loss of function. I did change out the superglue daily. Just peeled off the old and put on some new. Probably didn't need to do that either.

bob
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid
Post by: mgdavis on December 10, 2007, 02:05:43 PM
I ended up leaving work, I didn't want to bleed on any patients. I oozed blood under one of the Tegaderms, and it was looking pretty nasty:


When I got home I peeled everything off so I could just throw Bandaids on it. When I got the Surgi-foam and Steri-strips off it looked like this:


It looks like it should heal well, I just hope it doesn't interfere with using the bike's clutch.
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid *now with pics*
Post by: Brad Johnson on December 10, 2007, 02:08:43 PM
Ya big whiner. Why I've had worse cuts on my eyeball!  Heck, there was this one time I was using a wood chipper...

 laugh

Brad
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid *now with pics*
Post by: mgdavis on December 10, 2007, 02:18:32 PM
It's really deep, I swear.  cheesy

I never did get a good look at it before I checked myself in, every time I tried it would just start dripping blood again. After doing compression & elevation for a good 30 minutes with not much effect I started thinking about how bad it *might* have been, then my co-worker talked me into getting it checked out pretty easily. I really wish I'd been at home, I just would have done bandaids to start with.
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid *now with pics*
Post by: Paddy on December 10, 2007, 02:26:42 PM
That's it?  No tendons or arteries cut?  No chunks of flesh separated from your body?  No stitches, even?

Did I ever tell ya bout the time I cut the end of my thumb off closing a liner lock folder?   SWMBO was yammering at me while I was putting up some Christmas stuff for her, and I closed the blade fast and hard.  The inside serrated part of the blade took the end of my thumb, almost to the bone, clean off.   I didn't figure that out until about an hour later, when it wouldn't stop bleeding.
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid *now with pics*
Post by: Werewolf on December 10, 2007, 02:48:45 PM
30 minutes for small cuts like that and no clotting.

You've got bigger problems than those cuts. Been taking a lot of aspirin or other anti-coagulants lately? If no you might wanna run that 30 minute thing past a doctor because a cut like that ought to be done with bleeding within just a few minutes - especially with pressure applied.
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid *now with pics*
Post by: Thor on December 10, 2007, 04:22:21 PM
That's why I quit going to sick bay for cuts. By the time they finally got to me, most of them had started healing. Electrical tape, duct tape, superglue, band aids, and maybe a splint to keep me from moving it and I'm done. I'd be inclined to agree with Werewolf on the bleeding issue, but I'm no medical professional.
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid *now with pics*
Post by: Mabs2 on December 10, 2007, 05:46:59 PM
pix or it didn't- er, oh yea.
Neat.
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid *now with pics*
Post by: mfree on December 10, 2007, 06:06:32 PM
Ahh, you've not cut your finger until it's deep enough to spurt. BTDT, got the stitches *and* the "how lucky you are" speech because I cut straight down behind the kuckle of my left index finger, to the bone, and hit NOTHING but an artery.

Deepest I took care of on my own was one where I was hogging out the base of a plastic nose cone and the cheap plastic xacto knife I was using snapped and I zipped the base of the blade in a nice arc along the side of my finger. Pressure, tape, curse words, all OK in about 5 days.

And then there was the time I poked a finger while working on a motor and the reflex jerk managed to skin a few inches of the back of my right hand on a sharp bracket...
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid *now with pics*
Post by: 280plus on December 10, 2007, 06:20:47 PM
Real men use electrical tape and a piece of paper towel or napkin or something. I can't tell you how many times I've put myself back together with electrical tape. Just don't pull the tape too tight or your finger will start to turn purple.  grin
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid *now with pics*
Post by: member1313 on December 10, 2007, 07:42:50 PM
What--you don't like purple? It's a perfectly fine color.
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid *now with pics*
Post by: Bogie on December 10, 2007, 08:58:26 PM
For big wounds, a kotex is your friend. Looks a little weird walking around with tho...

For little slices, superglue rocks. If the slice was sharp. If it was a rip, just go in and let the nice torturer slice away...
 
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid *now with pics*
Post by: DustinD on December 10, 2007, 11:25:33 PM
I have started using superglue instead of band aids for some things. I should buy some of the medical grade stuff, because supposedly the normal stuff is toxic. I am just not sure as to how much.

Wouldn't kotex have anticoagulants in them? I am not a wuss, but any wound big enough for a tampon is going to cause me to seek medical attention.
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid *now with pics*
Post by: Matthew Carberry on December 11, 2007, 12:15:18 AM
Real men use electrical tape and a piece of paper towel or napkin or something. I can't tell you how many times I've put myself back together with electrical tape. Just don't pull the tape too tight or your finger will start to turn purple.  grin

This  grin
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid *now with pics*
Post by: TF_FH on December 11, 2007, 09:09:32 AM
I was out shooting with some friends once and a bullet hit something downrange that it shouldn't have.  Put a piece of the jacket right back into my friends nose.   shocked  He pulled it out and I broke out the paper towel and duct tape.  A few hours later we found him with a big smiley face band aid.  Freakin no real men left nowadays...  cheesy
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid *now with pics*
Post by: Matthew Carberry on December 11, 2007, 12:43:38 PM
I was out shooting with some friends once and a bullet hit something downrange that it shouldn't have.  Put a piece of the jacket right back into my friends nose.   shocked  He pulled it out and I broke out the paper towel and duct tape.  A few hours later we found him with a big smiley face band aid.  Freakin no real men left nowadays...  cheesy

When you pull off a bank shot like that, you're entitled to a "ta da!".  grin
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid *now with pics*
Post by: BridgeWalker on December 12, 2007, 07:16:24 AM
Deep cuts are no fun.  I've got this harmless little half-inch scar on the top of my foot.  Yeah, it's on top of a whole bunch of severed nerves.  Dropped a knife *through* my foot.  Turns out, it's not a good idea to leave a large, heavy, kitchen knife on the edge of a wet counter.  In my defense, I was pregnant at the time, or I would've been effective in the getting out of the way thing.   Always try to avoid any kind of injury with anything remotely resembling an exit wound...

I think the most fun part was that the ER parking lot was closed and the valet was goofing off, so I got to park about eight miles away and limp.  Yes, the hospital apologized profusely about that one and more or less begged me not to sue.  rolleyes
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid *now with pics*
Post by: mfree on December 12, 2007, 07:43:37 AM
Delta9,

Your story has reminded me of the anxiety I used to have about owning only stick-shift vehicles... I really need all four limbs to drive effectively. What do I do if I'm "missing" one?
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid *now with pics*
Post by: mgdavis on December 12, 2007, 08:18:18 AM
Delta9,

Your story has reminded me of the anxiety I used to have about owning only stick-shift vehicles... I really need all four limbs to drive effectively. What do I do if I'm "missing" one?

I wonder about that too. I've got a 5-speed in the truck, plus a motorcycle. If either foot is incapacitated I'm essentially SOL. I need the right hand too, I figure I could get by without the left hand though.  grin
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid *now with pics*
Post by: Typhoon on December 12, 2007, 08:31:03 AM
That happened to me.  I had a 1995 stick shift Mustang at the time I broke my foot.  The doc calls me up with the results of the MRI. Yep, its broken.  Come in TODAY for the cast, Ill fit you in whenever you can make it.  No weight on it at all for eight weeks.  Oh, by the way, what kind of car do you drive?

Whoops.  Thank goodness I had some pretty good friends.

When it came time to get a new car, what did I get?  Stick shift Mustang GT.
Title: Re: I just pulled a stupid *now with pics*
Post by: roo_ster on December 12, 2007, 09:51:39 AM
When I busted my ankle on a jump in the service, I was driving (still am) a 1997 Nissan Ext Cab Pickup, 5-sp.  First operation, I had someone drive me there & back.  The subsequent operations. I drove myself.  It wasn't pleasant, but only a few miles.  I tended to be pretty brisk on the shift.