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Title: Are they putting "Chips" in guns yet?
Post by: Tecumseh on February 01, 2008, 12:53:52 PM
http://www.hk-usa.com/wforum/viewtopic.php?t=1584

Kind of scary.
Title: Re: Are they putting "Chips" in guns yet?
Post by: Jamisjockey on February 01, 2008, 04:28:12 PM
screw it.
Title: Re: Are they putting "Chips" in guns yet?
Post by: Fly320s on February 01, 2008, 06:09:14 PM
I don't know if chips are standard, but it makes me want to check all of my guns.  Especially the HK.
Title: Re: Are they putting "Chips" in guns yet?
Post by: Regolith on February 01, 2008, 07:42:51 PM
Title: Re: Are they putting "Chips" in guns yet?
Post by: Paddy on February 01, 2008, 07:52:40 PM
Quote from: Fly320s on February 01, 2008, 05:09:14 PM
I don't know if chips are standard, but it makes me want to check all of my guns.  Especially the HK.

You own a gun you haven't completely stripped?
Title: Re: Are they putting "Chips" in guns yet?
Post by: Manedwolf on February 02, 2008, 03:47:58 AM
I think my P7 predates that. The chip would have to be the size of an old Atari cartridge.  cheesy
Title: Re: Are they putting "Chips" in guns yet?
Post by: Fly320s on February 02, 2008, 06:37:10 AM
Quote from: RileyMc on February 01, 2008, 06:52:40 PM
You own a gun you haven't completely stripped?
Yes, several.

I haven't stripped any of my revolvers because I don't know enough about them to be able to put them back together.  Haven't really felt a desire to learn, either.
Title: Re: Are they putting "Chips" in guns yet?
Post by: roo_ster on February 02, 2008, 07:40:56 AM
Frankly, revos don't need a complete strip-down, IMO.

Take off the stocks to get at the lockwork, go aftr it with pipecleaners & solvent, and you're done as far as necessary dis-assembly.

Title: Re: Are they putting "Chips" in guns yet?
Post by: Tuco on February 02, 2008, 12:27:22 PM
Anybody know enough about RFID to tell us how to turn them off?

Magnets?
degauss?
Boiling Water?
Ultrasonic?

Anybody?
Bueller?
Title: Re: Are they putting "Chips" in guns yet?
Post by: MechAg94 on February 02, 2008, 01:09:57 PM
EMP?
Title: Re: Are they putting "Chips" in guns yet?
Post by: Nick1911 on February 04, 2008, 08:45:57 AM
Quote from: Two Cold Soakers on February 02, 2008, 11:27:22 AM
Anybody know enough about RFID to tell us how to turn them off?

Magnets?
degauss?
Boiling Water?
Ultrasonic?

Anybody?
Bueller?


Microwave oven: 5-10 seconds.
Title: Re: Are they putting "Chips" in guns yet?
Post by: Tecumseh on February 04, 2008, 11:20:29 AM
Quote from: Nick1911 on February 04, 2008, 07:45:57 AM
Quote from: Two Cold Soakers on February 02, 2008, 11:27:22 AM
Anybody know enough about RFID to tell us how to turn them off?

Magnets?
degauss?
Boiling Water?
Ultrasonic?

Anybody?
Bueller?

  Make sure you unload the gun first. Wink 

And remove the rest of the metal parts from the gun.

Microwave oven: 5-10 seconds.
Title: Re: Are they putting "Chips" in guns yet?
Post by: Tuco on February 04, 2008, 01:04:44 PM
Two Cold Soakers auto reply....

Steve is unable to reply to this thread.  He was mysteriously shot in the stomach by his microwave oven.
There are no further details available at this time.
Title: Re: Are they putting "Chips" in guns yet?
Post by: HankB on February 05, 2008, 03:19:13 AM
A microchip will be as easy to remove/deactivate as the <expletive> lock on an S&W revolver.
Title: Re: Are they putting "Chips" in guns yet?
Post by: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on February 08, 2008, 12:09:57 PM
How to mess up a microchip? Get a nail punch and a hammer. Should be able to destroy any microchip known to man.
Title: Re: Are they putting "Chips" in guns yet?
Post by: Zed on February 09, 2008, 09:57:04 PM
Well, HK just lost any Interest I may have had.
Title: Re: Are they putting "Chips" in guns yet?
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 10, 2008, 07:16:33 AM
Like this? 

Title: Re: Are they putting "Chips" in guns yet?
Post by: LAK on February 14, 2008, 02:45:13 AM
Geronimo45,

Destroying a chip you can see is one thing - how about 100 or so duplicates imbedded inside a cast polymer frame?

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Title: Re: Are they putting "Chips" in guns yet?
Post by: Marnoot on February 14, 2008, 06:24:38 AM
Quote from: LAK on February 14, 2008, 01:45:13 AM
Geronimo45,

Destroying a chip you can see is one thing - how about 100 or so duplicates imbedded inside a cast polymer frame?

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Again, the microwave. Chuck the polymer frame in the ol' magic toaster for 10 seconds, and any chips will be fried.
Title: Re: Are they putting "Chips" in guns yet?
Post by: LAK on February 14, 2008, 10:20:59 PM
Certainly microwaving will wreck an RFIF chip etc; the question is, how much mw does it take to do anything bad to a polymer frame or other material.
Title: Re: Are they putting "Chips" in guns yet?
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 15, 2008, 02:04:47 PM
Guys, don't sweat it.  Just wrap your guns in tin foil.  Works for my noggin. 
Title: Re: Are they putting "Chips" in guns yet?
Post by: Fly320s on February 15, 2008, 03:02:34 PM
You need more layers.  Tighter layers.
Title: Re: Are they putting "Chips" in guns yet?
Post by: Chrontius on February 16, 2008, 12:52:44 PM
You know, piezo barbecue igniters produce a nice fat high-voltage spark...

Alternately, start sticking probes from a taser in interesting places on that chip.  Won't stay working long, with no real external sign of damage. 

But I think the people to answer this question are white-hat RFID hackers - the sort of people building keyless door locks and getting microchip implants for fun, or to do it first; the people sending letters to Mobil warning them Speedpass is easy to sniff, if anyone cared.
Title: Re: Are they putting "Chips" in guns yet?
Post by: Tecumseh on February 16, 2008, 02:52:55 PM
Quote from: fistful on February 15, 2008, 01:04:47 PM
Guys, don't sweat it.  Just wrap your guns in tin foil.  Works for my noggin. 
  At the Ron Paul campaign office we were handing out tinfoil along with instructions on how to prevent the CIA and the Bush administration from listening to your thoughts through your cell phones.
Title: Re: Are they putting "Chips" in guns yet?
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 17, 2008, 06:38:19 AM
You know it was the manufacturers of tin foil that torpedoed Paul's campaign, right?  I mean, they can't have the conspiracy ending all of a sudden.  It would ruin them.