Post by: Balog on February 13, 2008, 05:41:20 PM
Any thoughts? Think it'll work?
Post by: Sergeant Bob on February 13, 2008, 06:47:05 PM
Maybe "Mike Schmuckabee" or something.
Post by: Regolith on February 13, 2008, 10:39:41 PM
Post by: Tecumseh on February 13, 2008, 11:50:00 PM
If all works out this little idea will cost Huckabee and McCain the election. Then we will have a POTUS who actually gives a damn about the Bill of Rights.
We can only hope and pray.
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 14, 2008, 02:17:46 AM
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I wonder how Ron Paul will fit into this, any ideas?
As dinner theater?
Post by: LAK on February 14, 2008, 02:34:38 AM
Dinner theatre ... yes, I could handle that.Watching the ATF brought to heel, the IRS. Sounds like a small army of public servants and one private making lots of facial contortions, snarling and scurrying around looking for real jobs. If that would not be entertaining enough; plenty of shouting, hand gesturing and perhaps even pounding fists at the "U.N." as they get their eviction notice from U.S. soil. And that's just some highlights.
Yes, I could handle some dinner theatre.
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Post by: Bigjake on February 14, 2008, 03:02:52 AM
So I heard an interview on the radio the other day with Mike "Slick Hucky" Huckabee. Apparently his goal in staying in the race is to keep McCain from reaching the majority of delegates necessary to assure victory, thus forcing it to go to the convention. He thinks that in an atmosphere devoid of all the liberal "moderate" types, he'd pimp smack mcdaddy.
Any thoughts? Think it'll work?
Any thoughts? Think it'll work?
That would be friggin awesome, but I don't think the Huckster is that smart and I don't see McCain getting shutout, though that would be awesome.
Post by: Manedwolf on February 14, 2008, 04:02:20 AM
I wonder how Ron Paul will fit into this, any ideas?
Comic relief. With a drum hit and canned laughter.
Post by: Jamisjockey on February 14, 2008, 04:04:20 AM
I wonder how Ron Paul will fit into this, any ideas?
If all works out this little idea will cost Huckabee and McCain the election. Then we will have a POTUS who actually gives a damn about the Bill of Rights.
We can only hope and pray.
If all works out this little idea will cost Huckabee and McCain the election. Then we will have a POTUS who actually gives a damn about the Bill of Rights.
We can only hope and pray.
Okay so who are you supporting in this mess? Your post sounds like you're supporting Paul....your sig says Col. Momar Obama for Supreme Leader....
IMHO, I think Dr. Paul is hanging in there for one of two reasons:
1) to snag a Veep spot.
2) to maintain momentum and support as a third party candidate.
Post by: trapperready on February 14, 2008, 05:12:41 AM
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Okay so who are you supporting in this mess? Your post sounds like you're supporting Paul....your sig says Col. Momar Obama for Supreme Leader....
Another example of the Paulites pretending to be clever.
Post by: roo_ster on February 14, 2008, 05:32:55 AM
If Huck & Paul get the nomination tossed into the smoke-filled back rooms, I say, "Yea!" I wouldn't bet on it, as the gOP leadership is falling in line and bending over for McCain.
Post by: James Fitzer on February 14, 2008, 06:57:48 AM
Post by: seeker_two on February 14, 2008, 07:54:13 AM
For the last seven years we have had something much less than dinner theatre.
Dinner theatre ... yes, I could handle that.Watching the ATF brought to heel, the IRS. Sounds like a small army of public servants and one private making lots of facial contortions, snarling and scurrying around looking for real jobs. If that would not be entertaining enough; plenty of shouting, hand gesturing and perhaps even pounding fists at the "U.N." as they get their eviction notice from U.S. soil. And that's just some highlights.
Yes, I could handle some dinner theatre.
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http://searchronpaul.com
http://ussliberty.org/oldindex.html
http://www.gtr5.com
http://ssunitedstates.org
Dinner theatre ... yes, I could handle that.Watching the ATF brought to heel, the IRS. Sounds like a small army of public servants and one private making lots of facial contortions, snarling and scurrying around looking for real jobs. If that would not be entertaining enough; plenty of shouting, hand gesturing and perhaps even pounding fists at the "U.N." as they get their eviction notice from U.S. soil. And that's just some highlights.
Yes, I could handle some dinner theatre.
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http://searchronpaul.com
http://ussliberty.org/oldindex.html
http://www.gtr5.com
http://ssunitedstates.org
Make that a table for two.....
Post by: Tecumseh on February 14, 2008, 08:12:30 AM
I wonder how Ron Paul will fit into this, any ideas?
If all works out this little idea will cost Huckabee and McCain the election. Then we will have a POTUS who actually gives a damn about the Bill of Rights.
We can only hope and pray.
If all works out this little idea will cost Huckabee and McCain the election. Then we will have a POTUS who actually gives a damn about the Bill of Rights.
We can only hope and pray.
Okay so who are you supporting in this mess? Your post sounds like you're supporting Paul....your sig says Col. Momar Obama for Supreme Leader....
IMHO, I think Dr. Paul is hanging in there for one of two reasons:
1) to snag a Veep spot.
2) to maintain momentum and support as a third party candidate.
A quickthinking Ron Paul supporter snagged that domain name for the cause. I find it humorous. Who is Col. Momar Obama?
I doubt Ron Paul would take the VP spot from these fascists and statists. I also dont think he plans to run as an independent, though I will write him in anyway.
Post by: Bogie on February 14, 2008, 09:00:15 AM
If they get $$$ for their campaign stuff, they essentially _keep_ it after they quit. It doesn't go to some national organization. It stays with them, in case they ever want to run again. And they can use on fact-finding stuff... Like to Vegas...
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on February 14, 2008, 09:02:57 AM
I think ego and the desire for fame and importance are the biggest reasons that Huckabee is staying in the race.
Perhaps at first he was angling for the Veep job, but I think he's making himself too much of a thorn in McCain's side by staying in the race. McCain is not the forgiving type.
I also think that Huckabee is advancing his own political fortunes. If he stays in the race to the bitter end, he can go back to his supports and spout more of his populist drivel. "See? I tried to win the race, I tried really really really hard. But those dastardly rich powerful establishment people just wouldn't let an outsider win. It's all about keeping the common man down, don't ya see? That's why all of you need me,someone who is willing to fight for the common man, even if it's a losing fight."
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on February 14, 2008, 09:03:45 AM
Well, personally, I think the guys are in it for the money.
If they get $$$ for their campaign stuff, they essentially _keep_ it after they quit. It doesn't go to some national organization. It stays with them, in case they ever want to run again. And they can use on fact-finding stuff... Like to Vegas...
Huckabee doesn't have any campaign money. He's run his entire race on a shoestring budget, and there won't be much left when its over.
If they get $$$ for their campaign stuff, they essentially _keep_ it after they quit. It doesn't go to some national organization. It stays with them, in case they ever want to run again. And they can use on fact-finding stuff... Like to Vegas...
Post by: Marvin Dao on February 14, 2008, 02:15:48 PM
Post by: Bogie on February 14, 2008, 03:14:18 PM
I don't trust ANYONE in politics.
Post by: lupinus on February 16, 2008, 05:24:53 PM
Say what you like about Huckabee, I like him. And you damn sure can't say he'd be a worse nominee then McCain.
Post by: Regolith on February 16, 2008, 09:03:15 PM
we can only hope that works.
Say what you like about Huckabee, I like him. And you damn sure can't say he'd be a worse nominee then McCain.
Say what you like about Huckabee, I like him. And you damn sure can't say he'd be a worse nominee then McCain.
At least McCain hasn't suggested that we change the US constitution "to fit God's standards."
Sorry, I don't like the idea of having a theocrat in office.
Post by: Bigjake on February 17, 2008, 03:03:34 AM
we can only hope that works.
Say what you like about Huckabee, I like him. And you damn sure can't say he'd be a worse nominee then McCain.
Say what you like about Huckabee, I like him. And you damn sure can't say he'd be a worse nominee then McCain.
At least McCain hasn't suggested that we change the US constitution "to fit God's standards."
Sorry, I don't like the idea of having a theocrat in office.
If Huckabee's invisible friend in the sky is an avid 2A supporter, I'm all for it. I bet God would repeal the NFA of 34, the GCA of 68, and the 86 Ban.....
Post by: Sergeant Bob on February 17, 2008, 04:37:52 AM
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Look man... I'm not here to debate with you. I just find it laughable how you jump into threads to stir up trouble. Your pseudo-intellectual verbal vomitus isn't impressive, and I'm getting tired of reading somewhat interesting threads only to have a complete "WTF" moment when I reach your post.
James Fitzer to Tecumse
Look man... I'm not here to debate with you. I just find it laughable how you jump into threads to stir up trouble. Your pseudo-intellectual verbal vomitus isn't impressive, and I'm getting tired of reading somewhat interesting threads only to have a complete "WTF" moment when I reach your post.
James Fitzer to Tecumse
Jake, if you're going to copy a quote from someone's signature, you should copy the entire quote. Tecumseh
Post by: lupinus on February 17, 2008, 10:14:47 AM
we can only hope that works.
Say what you like about Huckabee, I like him. And you damn sure can't say he'd be a worse nominee then McCain.
Say what you like about Huckabee, I like him. And you damn sure can't say he'd be a worse nominee then McCain.
At least McCain hasn't suggested that we change the US constitution "to fit God's standards."
Sorry, I don't like the idea of having a theocrat in office.
Post by: Regolith on February 18, 2008, 05:23:27 PM
If anything, the founding fathers were more religious then Huckabee. And just what has he proposed that you don't agree with? I don't care to hear you don't like his reason, I want to hear jsut what he wants done you disagree with.
Many founding fathers, in fact, WEREN'T more religious than Huckabee. Take Jefferson, for example, who was a Deist (they believed in god, but not the Christian version). Many, like Jefferson, wanted to keep the Church and State completely separate (hence the 1st Amendment). James Madison, writer of most of the constitution, also believed they should be kept separate, and fought and won against a proposed Virginia legislative act that would have levied a tax for the general support of Christian churches.
And most religious leaders at the time were beginning to believe they didn't need government to regulate religious laws, and that they could achieve their goals without government help. As Isaac Backus, a Baptist leader at the time put it, "Christ's kingdom is not of this world."
Finally, the fact that there were so many religious factions in America at the time, most of whom had fled England due to the Anglican Church's dominance, made having a religious government completely untenable. After all, whose version of the Bible should they have enforced, the Quakers? The Protestants? Catholics? Baptists? Anglicans?
For this reason, the Founders meant the Constitution to be Secular in nature. They made references to god, but not to a specific god of any one denomination. Thus, having Huckabee "fix" the constitution to fit his Baptist ideals is completely counter to what the Founders had in mind.
As for the specific goals of Huckabee? His anti-gay marriage proposals and stances doesn't particularly sit well with me (the government has no business regulating what two adults do in their bedroom, and frankly I don't see a need for them to regulate marriage in the first place), and neither does his professed belief that creationism should be taught in science classes.
Post by: Tecumseh on February 18, 2008, 09:24:56 PM
we can only hope that works.
Say what you like about Huckabee, I like him. And you damn sure can't say he'd be a worse nominee then McCain.
Say what you like about Huckabee, I like him. And you damn sure can't say he'd be a worse nominee then McCain.
At least McCain hasn't suggested that we change the US constitution "to fit God's standards."
Sorry, I don't like the idea of having a theocrat in office.
Post by: Strings on February 19, 2008, 11:25:41 AM
I don't care what the Founding Fathers worshiped: it's entirely beside the point.
Huckabee has said he wants to "bring the Constitution more in line with the Bible", or some such. Since I don't follow the Bible, that makes me a touch nervous. Now, if someone could please explain what, PRECISELY, he means by that, I might even vote for him...
Post by: Balog on February 19, 2008, 12:02:25 PM
Post by: charby on February 19, 2008, 12:29:07 PM
I believe he's proposing some kind of no gay marriage and no abortion type amendments.
And to be fair he should also propose a concubine amendment also.
Post by: Strings on February 19, 2008, 01:08:40 PM
The whole "gay marriage" thing is starting to piss me off, actually. So long as the people involved are adults, and enter into things of their own free will, the government should keep their noses out of it. I have yet to hear a decent argument against gay marriage that didn't involve some form of religious view...
So, thank you for explaining why I can't (in good faith) vote for Huck.
Post by: Balog on February 19, 2008, 01:37:44 PM
Post by: keeleon on February 19, 2008, 01:41:08 PM
So the question I have, is why don't both sides just accept that, and let the "gays" come up with a new word? I say it is completely irrelevant to the law. If they want to commit to each other, then they should have all the same rights that a normal marriage has, tax benefits, wills, property rights. Just call it something else so the ridiculous religious fanatics no longer have anything to complain about.
Post by: seeker_two on February 20, 2008, 07:30:54 AM
I believe he's proposing some kind of no gay marriage and no abortion type amendments.
And to be fair he should also propose a concubine amendment also.
I'd vote for that just from a public safety aspect......one wife is more than any man can handle...