Post by: Manedwolf on August 29, 2008, 11:40:20 AM
"Because the conservatives actually have jobs and businesses, and have to go to work."
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 29, 2008, 12:49:16 PM
Post by: MicroBalrog on August 29, 2008, 02:11:58 PM
"So why did Obama get 80,000 people in a stadium on a weekday, and McCain will be lucky to get 10,000?"
"Because the conservatives actually have jobs and businesses, and have to go to work."
"Because the conservatives actually have jobs and businesses, and have to go to work."
Weak and useless argument. If you can't be excited enough about your candidate to take a day off from work to see him, that says a [ilot[/i] about your candidate.
Post by: MrRezister on August 29, 2008, 02:32:20 PM
Post by: Ben on August 29, 2008, 03:12:57 PM
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Weak and useless argument. If you can't be excited enough about your candidate to take a day off from work to see him, that says a [ilot[/i] about your candidate.
No matter how much I liked a candidate or how great they were, I would never take a day off of work just to go see them speak in person when I can take the day off to go fishing and then watch the speech on TV that night.
I work hard and my days off are precious. If I didn't work and had lots of time on my hand, then sure, I might go see them.
Post by: MicroBalrog on August 29, 2008, 03:14:37 PM
Post by: Manedwolf on August 29, 2008, 03:15:04 PM
"So why did Obama get 80,000 people in a stadium on a weekday, and McCain will be lucky to get 10,000?"
"Because the conservatives actually have jobs and businesses, and have to go to work."
"Because the conservatives actually have jobs and businesses, and have to go to work."
Weak and useless argument. If you can't be excited enough about your candidate to take a day off from work to see him, that says a [ilot[/i] about your candidate.
Yes. It says it's someone I might hire via my vote, not someone I worship.
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 29, 2008, 03:16:16 PM
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Weak and useless argument. If you can't be excited enough about your candidate to take a day off from work to see him, that says a [ilot[/i] about your candidate.
No matter how much I liked a candidate or how great they were, I would never take a day off of work just to go see them speak in person when I can take the day off to go fishing and then watch the speech on TV that night.
I work hard and my days off are precious. If I didn't work and had lots of time on my hand, then sure, I might go see them.
Both good points, actually.
Post by: MicroBalrog on August 29, 2008, 03:21:08 PM
"So why did Obama get 80,000 people in a stadium on a weekday, and McCain will be lucky to get 10,000?"
"Because the conservatives actually have jobs and businesses, and have to go to work."
"Because the conservatives actually have jobs and businesses, and have to go to work."
Weak and useless argument. If you can't be excited enough about your candidate to take a day off from work to see him, that says a [ilot[/i] about your candidate.
Yes. It says it's someone I might hire via my vote, not someone I worship.
Exactly. But there are some people who elicit popular enthusiasm and do get people to turn out for them. Some of these people are really bad people (like Hitler or Napoleon), others are just not on our side (like Obama), but yet it is possible for people to have an Obamalike appeal and be friends of liberty.
Consider in this cue the popular enthusiasm regarding Andrew Jackson (Obama has nothing on him, there were actually riots in celebration of him being elected), or Lincoln, or (in other countries) people like Ghandi.
Enthusiasm is nothing but a tool.
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 29, 2008, 03:23:40 PM
Post by: Antibubba on August 29, 2008, 07:15:24 PM
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That's your personal view, but I think out of America's 150 million Republicans, it should be possible to recruit 70,000 people to go see a really awesome candidate - if we had a really awesome candidate.
I sometimes wonder if you're really in Israel, Boris.
Post by: RevDisk on August 30, 2008, 08:02:22 PM
Microbalrog said:
I sometimes wonder if you're really in Israel, Boris.
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That's your personal view, but I think out of America's 150 million Republicans, it should be possible to recruit 70,000 people to go see a really awesome candidate - if we had a really awesome candidate.
I sometimes wonder if you're really in Israel, Boris.
Na, he was born American. Just hasn't had time to come back home.
Dude, would YOU immediately go home if you could eye up young ladies with M4's or Uzis?
Post by: MicroBalrog on August 31, 2008, 03:47:40 AM
Microbalrog said:
I sometimes wonder if you're really in Israel, Boris.
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That's your personal view, but I think out of America's 150 million Republicans, it should be possible to recruit 70,000 people to go see a really awesome candidate - if we had a really awesome candidate.
I sometimes wonder if you're really in Israel, Boris.
Anti, I thank you very much for your compliment.
Post by: K Frame on August 31, 2008, 03:51:07 PM
Hopefully what it said won't come true in a couple of months.
Post by: roo_ster on August 31, 2008, 04:51:49 PM
The idea of thousands of folks hollering in unison or in favor of one human just wigs me out.
My feeling is not limited to politics. Concerts and other mass events can also give me the creeps.
It is not whatever phobia is connected to interacting with people or large groups. Large groups milling around doing their own thing (like at , say, the beach) does not induce the heebie-jeebies.
I have had to deal with such groups in the past for various reasons and I have functioned fine. A little self-discipline saw to that.
Post by: MechAg94 on August 31, 2008, 05:23:16 PM
Remember Dan's Bake Sale that Rush put on back in the 90's? That event attracted a whole boat load of people for no real reason at all (wiki says 80,000).