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Title: Lawn Darts are ILLEGAL? I didn't get that memo!
Post by: sven on March 17, 2005, 05:35:58 PM


I must've been in a cave when this news came out!  Oh, wait... I was 13 years old.  But still, they BANNED metal lawn darts?  For the CHILDREN?  Sounds familiar, doesn't it!

Read on:

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/5053.html

http://www.thetoque.com/010821/lawndarts.htm

Gotta go find some pre-bans.
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Post by: kate on March 17, 2005, 05:40:32 PM
That's my picture, you wankster.
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Post by: sven on March 17, 2005, 05:50:06 PM
Credit to kate for googling that photo.  *cough*
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Post by: Sindawe on March 17, 2005, 06:17:48 PM
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"In 1988 the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) banned lawn darts," said CPSC Chairman Ann Brown. "That people would now blatantly disregard that ban is outrageous, and an insult to our authority."
GREAT GOOGLY-MOOGLY!!!  Americans have the audacity to insult the AU-THOR-ITY of the CPSC!  The Horror!  The Horror!

Ms. Brown needs to get a frelling life.
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Post by: wasrjoe on March 17, 2005, 06:25:45 PM
Respect my athoriteh!
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Post by: Taurus on March 17, 2005, 08:20:15 PM
A buddy made me lawn darts some years ago after the ban went into effect. I still have them. I still use them. These have similarities to the store bought, except these homemade ones are better balanced in my opinion.

Let the socialist pigs ban what they want from the markets. They're an incompetent bunch of lunatics. The CPSC is not the law of my private land. Whatever they try to take from me I will make, or find someone who can make it. Or I can still purchase used on Google. They can go to hell, and while there, give my burger a flip.
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Post by: brimic on March 17, 2005, 08:36:28 PM
I used to throw them at squirrels and chipmunks and cats. Cheesy
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Post by: SteveS on March 18, 2005, 10:10:03 AM
My parents still have a set of these.  I didn't realize they were off the market.  I better hang on to them.
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Post by: charby on March 18, 2005, 10:16:07 AM
Quote from: brimic
I used to throw them at squirrels and chipmunks and cats. Cheesy
Exactly...  I miss those things!
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Post by: bountyhunter on March 18, 2005, 01:25:54 PM
Kids tend to throw them straight up in the air... and ER's had a steady stream of kids arriving with "lawn dart lobotomies".

http://www.kidsource.com/cpsc/lawn.darts.html


WASHINGTON, D.C. - After a recent serious injury caused by a lawn dart, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission reissued its warning that lawn darts are banned and should be destroyed. Effective on December 19, 1988, CPSC banned the sale of all lawn darts in the United States. Pointed lawn darts, intended for use in an outdoor game, have been responsible for the deaths of three children. The most recent injury occurred last week in Elkhart, Ind., when a 7-year-old boy suffered a brain injury after a lawn dart pierced his skull.
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Post by: Monkeyleg on March 18, 2005, 01:51:07 PM
Aw, geeziz, bountyhunter. Looks like we're about to go 'round again. Wink

How many things should we ban for "the children?" Frankly, I'm surprised that baseball bats aren't banned yet.

I think that a big factor in whether an object is banned or not has to do with how long said object has been around. It's often been suggested, and I agreee, that if motorcycles were just being introduced to the market today, they'd be banned.
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Post by: wasrjoe on March 18, 2005, 03:16:25 PM
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Kids tend to throw them straight up in the air... and ER's had a steady stream of kids arriving with "lawn dart lobotomies".
Wow, the deaths of 3 children, that sure does sound dangerous! I hear children have a tendency to swing bats at each other, too. Musn't have anything that can be used incorrectly and cause danger about!
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Post by: JAlexander on March 18, 2005, 05:09:39 PM
Wimps.  When I was a lad we used to play dodge lawndarts.  And dodge bottlerockets, and...  Yeah, okay.  So we were bored, but we threw them more in a softball-like, underhand fashion, so likely the worst that would have happened was the loss of a leg.

Man.  I just told my wife that story and she gave me the Look.  

I'm gonna go look for some now.

James
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Post by: Fly320s on March 19, 2005, 03:21:32 AM
JAlexander,

Did you ever play the game where two people threw knives, or other sharp and pointy things, near each other's feet?

You start out with your feet about shoulder width apart.  One person throws a knive to make it stick in the ground next to his opponents foot.  If successful, the "recipient" must move his feet a little wider apart.  The winner is the first one to make his opponent fall over or unable to spread his feet any more.

Ah, life before video games.  I still have all my fingers and toes, though shocked
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Post by: yesterdaysyouth on March 19, 2005, 04:31:25 AM
i played lawn darts all the time...  never managed to kill anyone... not even a puncture wound...

we also had bottle rocket fights all the time too, still do... Tongue
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Post by: Cool Hand Luke 22:36 on March 19, 2005, 06:48:58 AM
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Pointed lawn darts, intended for use in an outdoor game, have been responsible for the deaths of three children. The most recent injury occurred last week in Elkhart, Ind., when a 7-year-old boy suffered a brain injury after a lawn dart pierced his skull.
Three, wow, I didn't realize that it was such a huge number.

And how many kids are killed each year from riding in canoes, the most dangerous watercraft of all.
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Post by: Antibubba on March 19, 2005, 08:11:21 AM
I heard they're going to bring them back.  The manufacturer is going to build an internal lock into them, and you won't be able to buy more than one set a month. Wink
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Post by: Schuey2002 on March 19, 2005, 09:31:36 AM
Here's the perfect t-shirt to wear to that next CPSC convention. Cheesy

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Post by: brimic on March 19, 2005, 12:32:29 PM
Quote from: JAlexander
When I was a lad we used to play dodge lawndarts.
LOL. If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a lawndart.
Dodge, dive, duck, dip, dodge.
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Post by: Cyanide_357 on March 19, 2005, 01:20:50 PM
Lol.. I had one of those land on my head when I was in 1st or 2nd grade.  The Real metal ones too... Just proves I'm hard headed.  Was some blood though.. that really freaked me out.  Coudn't have done too much damage.. I'm in my 2nd year of college (studying computers) with a 3.9 gpa.  I will admit that I haven't gotten into the deep math yet... and I have some more years to go...

Cyanide
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Post by: DustinD on March 19, 2005, 03:57:39 PM
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"That people would now blatantly disregard that ban is outrageous, and an insult to our authority."
My god those people are full of themselves! They must take that as a serious blow to democracy.
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Post by: One of Many on March 19, 2005, 05:05:24 PM
Mumbly Pegs.  That is the sound of the name my dad told me, when I saw some men in a park throwing knives back and forth at each other, so that they would stick in the ground near their feet.  That was close to 50 years ago.

If anyone was to try that in a public park today, they would be arrested, and probably sent to jail for a long time.
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Post by: Justin on March 21, 2005, 09:40:58 AM
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"That people would now blatantly disregard that ban is outrageous, and an insult to our authority."
Ah...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA *gasp* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...wheeeeeee...*giggle*

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Kids tend to throw them straight up in the air... and ER's had a steady stream of kids arriving with "lawn dart lobotomies".
So, you're saying that this is a self-correcting problem then?

As a child, we used to throw lawn darts onto the street in the evening to try and make them spark.
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Post by: Harold Tuttle on March 21, 2005, 10:15:29 AM
but you can still buy them in ENGLAND?

http://www.nickys-nursery.co.uk/seeds/pages/garden-games14.htm

Lawn Darts May Be Illegal, But The Game Still Sticks
http://www.thetoque.com/010821/lawndarts.htm
MARK'S BACKYARD-- Americans, tired of living in a nanny state, are demonstrating their unwillingness to conform to national safety standards by engaging in dangerous recreational activities, some of which are banned in many states.

The most popular of these activities is lawn darts, a menacing suburban yard sport that was made illegal several years ago because of the "dangerous risks" players took with the equipment. Pointed lawn darts had been responsible for the deaths of several very stupid people.

"In 1988 the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) banned lawn darts," said CPSC Chairman Ann Brown. "That people would now blatantly disregard that ban is outrageous, and an insult to our authority."
Mark Bailey thinks the government should "let its hair down" on this issue, and let responsible people have their fun.
"I'm allowed to own a gun, but I'm not allowed to play with lawn darts," said Mark sarcastically. "Just because some idiot once tried to catch a lawn dart in his teeth, it's been spoiled for the rest of us."

Mark and his buddy Justin have been defiantly playing the metal-spiked sport for months, and on several occasions have invited friends over to their "secret location" to play in the backyard. "We're thinking of starting our own league," added Mark.

The FBI is interested in any information about illegal lawn darts clubs. Said FBI spokesperson Allan Rice: "We are certainly concerned when American citizens openly disregard toy bans. For the safety of Americans, we would, if needed, use force to suppress these dangerous activities."

Mark thinks that America is just getting soft and "mamby-pamby".

"When I was nine, I drank the fluid out of a Magic 8-Ball," said Mark. "Where was the CPSC for me then? Huh?"
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Post by: DustinD on March 21, 2005, 11:44:45 AM
The FBI is interested in any information about illegal lawn darts clubs. Said FBI spokesperson Allan Rice: "We are certainly concerned when American citizens openly disregard toy bans. For the safety of Americans, we would, if needed, use force to suppress these dangerous activities."

Those guys seriously need a major budget cut. Going after banned toys...
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Post by: wasrjoe on March 21, 2005, 11:48:35 AM
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The FBI is interested in any information about illegal lawn darts clubs. Said FBI spokesperson Allan Rice: "We are certainly concerned when American citizens openly disregard toy bans. For the safety of Americans, we would, if needed, use force to suppress these dangerous activities."
Holy sh... er, wow. That's the scariest thing I've read in some time. And I'm not much of a tin foil user.
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Post by: Harold Tuttle on March 21, 2005, 03:42:41 PM
re check the link
its a canadian humor site

CANADA'S SOURCE FOR LAWN DARTS HUMOUR, PARODY, AND SATIRE
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Post by: wasrjoe on March 21, 2005, 06:34:43 PM
Damn, I've been had! Oh well, not the first time. Now the story is actually funny instead of frightening.

And I didn't know lawn darts were popular enough to merit their own humor, parody and satire website...
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Post by: hkOrion on March 24, 2005, 01:07:05 PM
Quote:   I heard they're going to bring them back.  The manufacturer is going to build an internal lock into them, and you won't be able to buy more than one set a month.

either that or make them 'smart' lawndarts.  Only you can pick them up and throw them, or anyone else you program them with.  Otherwise they don't work....
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Post by: grampster on March 24, 2005, 01:39:03 PM
Mumbly Peg.

I played Mumbly Peg when I was a kid.  We used to use those big fat black Boy Scout knives with several utility blades as well as a small blade and a large blade.  Not really good for balance or throwin'.  They called it mumbly peg because of what you talked like when a knife went a bit awry and hit you in the mouth, or you got hit in the leg and got gangarene and you wound up with........you got it ....a peg leg.  
When we got a bit older, we started looking for the bigger Buck knives with only one long blade.  They were pretty sharp too.  Better balance for throwing.  Didn't feel much when it sliced the skin between your toes, till later any way.  We also used to lay your hand down splay out your fingers and stab between them.  They guy who could do it the fastest before drawing blood, won.
A variation on knives was to take an old broom stick, cut the head off'n a 10 penny nail and drive it into the broom stick.  Sharpen it up and it made a good frog sticker or a replacement for a knife for mumbly peg.  Spear instead of knife.  We would get nekkid or wear a loin cloth made out of rags.  Great childhood.  Had a creek and a river nearby as well as the huge rail yard with the old giant steam engines....Sigh...We used to shoot rabbits and pheasants and squirrels with our shotguns when we were about 12 or so.  cook em over a fire.
People today are wimps.  Especially the socialists that want to make everything safe and warm and fuzzy.  Without danger, were is the excitement of life?  That's why all these kids are doing these terrible crimes.  They have no dangerous outlet to experience growing up.  It civilizes kids to be in a dangerous life.  Some don't make it.  Too bad.
I'm feeling a wave of nostalgia.  I'll shut up now.
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Post by: Fjolnirsson on March 24, 2005, 02:16:24 PM
huh. I never thought about it, but I guess I'm lucky not to have a criminal record. Back in the late 80's or so, my friends and I used to play mumbly peg. At the public park. In CA. with whichever knife we had on hand at the time. Most often a friend's switchblade.
I'll be darned.
Grampster, you're right. If all the danger is taken away, kids will find a way to make new danger.
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Post by: bountyhunter on March 24, 2005, 02:45:54 PM
"Aw, geeziz, bountyhunter. Looks like we're about to go 'round again. wink"

I'm not promoting a position, I was just saying why they were banned.  If you are pro lobotomy, I'm OK with that.  Just don't hit my dog with one... my wife paid $600 for that little sucker.
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Post by: bountyhunter on March 24, 2005, 02:47:56 PM
"Quote:   I heard they're going to bring them back.  The manufacturer is going to build an internal lock into them, and you won't be able to buy more than one set a month."

Hmmm....  I heard their sales were only going to be allowed in the red states because it had been scientifically proven that the people there have skulls so thick nothing can penetrate them.
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Post by: bountyhunter on March 24, 2005, 02:50:20 PM
"Kids tend to throw them straight up in the air... and ER's had a steady stream of kids arriving with "lawn dart lobotomies".


"So, you're saying that this is a self-correcting problem then?"




Well, it certainly is natural selection at work.   Darwin's work is never done......
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Post by: grampster on March 24, 2005, 03:29:24 PM
The thick skulls in the red states come from the residents slapping themselves in the head  and saying "I can't believe they did (said) that" after listening to or watching another ludicrous act or statement by a blue stater.

  Oh, wait a minute.  There is no such thing as a blue state.  All the states are red, its just that those on the dole or feeding at the gubmint trough tend to cluster heavily together in a few locations within what would ordinarily be a red state.

I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist the bait.  heh.
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Post by: Stand_watie on March 24, 2005, 04:40:02 PM
670 injuries a year!! Oh the humanity! Our kids will have to take up safer recreation. Like football. Or bicycle riding.

http://classaction.findlaw.com/recall/cpsc/files/1988feb/88008.html

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Lawn darts are an outdoor game in which the pointed darts are thrown through the air and then stick in the ground near a target. They pose puncture and other hazards of death and serious injury to children who are struck by them. An estimated 670 injuries a year from lawn darts are treated in U.S. hospital emergency rooms, and three-fourths of the victims are under age 15. Three children -- ages 4, 7, and 13 -- are known to have died in lawn dart-related incidents
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Post by: Penman on March 25, 2005, 12:11:27 PM
I thought only the black assault darts were banned...
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Post by: Risasi on March 26, 2005, 12:31:05 PM
Wow, this is a funny thread. I hate to admit it, but some friends and I have done the "bottle rocket in the wiffle bat" wars thing. And we even used to play catch with javelins. (Shh, don't tell my mom).

Probably the most asinine thing I've seen was my friends. Now I didn't do this as I thought it a bit too crazy. But they would go put on motorcycle helmets, and leather and makeshift "body armor", then they would shoot at each other with .22's. Headshots weren't allowed.  But I do have to confess to having some nail gun wars on some roofing jobs  when I was a kid...