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Title: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: MrsSmith on January 13, 2012, 06:47:27 PM
I'm doing an informal survey to learn more about what women carry and use, for market research. If your wife, girlfriend, significant other, mother, sister, daughter, or all of the above carry a gun or use a gun, please tell me what it is and what caliber. For example:

M&P 9mm for competition
Bodyguard .380 for concealed carry
Custom AR15 .223 for fun

If you have more than one woman in your life who has guns, or one woman with multiple guns, list them all please. ESPECIALLY what they carry concealed. If you're concerned about putting this out there in a public forum, send me a pm and I'll keep it completely confidential.

For my fellow females here, shoot me a PM if you want privacy from the boys. :)

Thanks!
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: Jamisjockey on January 13, 2012, 07:21:18 PM
My lovely wife just totes me around and hopes I'm armed.  She don't shoot.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: lee n. field on January 13, 2012, 08:05:26 PM
None at all.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: LadySmith on January 13, 2012, 08:14:56 PM
If it helps, I carry a S&W 686 .357 Magnum with 4" barrel.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: cambeul41 on January 13, 2012, 08:15:45 PM
My formerly hoplophobic, formerly Japanese, wife carries an XD-9 SC when and where legal, .

She originally carried a Glock 23 until an instructor suggested that she could more reliably fire follow-up shots with 9 mm.  (Booner, are you still around?)

She has changed in other ways, too. Once she was a French major (BA); now she is ABD in industrial engineering.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: Jamie B on January 13, 2012, 08:35:17 PM
My lovely wife just totes me around and hopes I'm armed.  She don't shoot.
Sadly, it is the same for me...
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: seeker_two on January 13, 2012, 08:38:57 PM
My lovely wife just totes me around and hopes I'm armed.  She don't shoot.

Ditto....but she is deadly accurate with her Taurus 94 .22lr.....I may get a LCR .22 & see if it catches her attention.....
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on January 13, 2012, 08:39:19 PM
Springfeild 1911A1
Subcompact XD .40 S&W
Smith and Wesson M-19

WASR10
SKS
Bushmaster AR
10/22 (i don't shoot that much. 4H made me picky about .22, but dad bought for me so...)
New Englander .410


plus all dads guns, which i'm not listing, cause it takes to dang long.

I will note that I don't like Sigs. I can't reach their DA trigger on the DA/SA guns.  :P
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: lee n. field on January 13, 2012, 08:42:04 PM
If it helps, I carry a S&W 686 .357 Magnum with 4" barrel.

<vader>Impressive.</vader>
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: bedlamite on January 13, 2012, 09:08:31 PM
Add a Springfield XDM in 9mm to the list.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: erictank on January 13, 2012, 09:16:24 PM
My wife was raised in a house with guns (her dad hunts, so there are rifles and shotguns on the walls), but doesn't shoot herself and wouldn't have guns in the house when her kids were smaller. Both are in their teens now, and my dad just died recently - his Colt Gold Cup 1911 (Model 70, IIRC) will be coming to me, and possibly one or more additional guns (I'd like one of his .22s, and will take as many as aren't wanted by the rest of the family, but frankly I don't know how many guns Dad had and he was survived by his wife and 4 children...) - so we've been talking about all three of them learning firearms safety and shooting. Gun(s) not in hand yet, so we'll see how things go.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: grislyatoms on January 13, 2012, 09:21:16 PM
If it helps, I carry a S&W 686 .357 Magnum with 4" barrel.
She's not old enough to the carry yet, but that is the exact model I own that kiddo favors and is promised to her.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: grislyatoms on January 13, 2012, 09:23:16 PM
Whoops, wait, model 66 is kiddo's.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: BryanP on January 13, 2012, 09:52:09 PM
My wife and stepdaughter both enjoy going to the range with me and shooting my .22lr's.  My stepdaughter has officially stated that my CZ 452 is Her Gun.  I've got my wife to enjoy shooting an AR-15 and Marlin .357 lever gun, but other than that neither of them enjoy shooting centerfire.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: Fly320s on January 13, 2012, 09:54:12 PM
My wife has taken possession of (formerly) my Kimber Pro Carry .40SW.  She also shoots a M&P 9mm, and did quite well with it a Jeff Gonzales' class, but she doesn't carry either. Just not interested in CCW even though she has a NH permit.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: dogmush on January 13, 2012, 10:22:54 PM
My wife has a full size M&P 45 in her nightstand and carries a PPS in 9mm.
My aunt carries a Taurus Millennium PT-145
My mom just bought a Sig P-250 for wolf and bear defense.  She carries in the woods but not the city.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: White Horseradish on January 13, 2012, 10:51:35 PM
My wife at one time expropriated my 3" Model 36 Smith, but now carries a P3AT. For fun, she likes a plain GI style 1911. She also has a Baikal trap gun in 20 gauge and a Marlin 795 she used for an Appleseed. We are working out which 9mm she likes, in case she has time to try USPSA this summer.

My mom has a .38 Charter Undercover and a Taurus PT111 9mm. She has a carry permit, but doesn't usually carry because she works at a very liberal college.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: Stetson on January 13, 2012, 10:53:28 PM
Ruger something in .357 but shoots .38s out of it.
4 or 5 shotguns her dad gave her at Xmas, all 20ga.

She likes to shoot my Bersa .380 but until I get a different carry piece she can't have it.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: Monkeyleg on January 13, 2012, 10:58:24 PM
My wife has enjoyed shooting my 6" 586. She didn't much care for .22.

She, too, won't carry or use a weapon to defend herself, so that responsibility falls on me.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: Terpsichore on January 14, 2012, 12:10:00 AM
Don't have a gun yet, just swords and other fun things.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: BridgeRunner on January 14, 2012, 12:48:43 AM
I have a S&W Sigma in .40.  I don't carry concealed

This is because I'm disorganized and somewhat scatter-brained, and last summer my two-year-old spend a horrible afternoon in the ER after I didn't properly secure my meds. 

There's no way I would, at this point in my life, be safe about it, not with two little kids.  And a lot of time with my dare-devil nephew who's nearly killed himself with his reckless shenanigans way too many times.  AWESOME kid, but I worry about carrying around him, and least for me and my tendency to lose track of stuff.  The risk/benefit analysis says I shouldn't carry until I get my act together a little more.

I used to have a Benelli Montefeltro, and I will again someday. 

Assorted .22's

I need to learn how to shoot a rifle, so's I can teach my kid to shoot.  She'll be turning six in May...she's expressed an interest. 
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: French G. on January 14, 2012, 02:02:31 AM
None, although I have given her a few lessons and she is competent. Irks me to no end that she says that she knows how to shoot. Look lady, I've shot competition pistol for 6 years, shoot military matches and win guns, spent every waking moment of my life on guns for a few years and been qualified numerous times in the military and I don't know how to shoot, yet you do?  Ahh, the confidence of youth. :facepalm:

The deciding factor for her is weight, while I was gone for awhile she purloined my S&W 325 and really is quite fond of it. Never shot it with the 185 +P Golden Saber that was in it mind you.

Soon, I am going to outfit her for the reality of separate housekeeping. I asked her if she liked my Browning HP, so that stays. Beyond that I'm looking at a lever rifle in .30-30 or .44 with a dot sight and a simple to operate shotgun.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: redscabbard on January 14, 2012, 07:59:56 AM
I need to learn how to shoot a rifle, so's I can teach my kid to shoot.  She'll be turning six in May...she's expressed an interest. 

I'm not sure how everyone else feels, but our 10 and 12 year old girls love 4H Shooting Sports.  In our club, you need to be 9 years old (a 4Her, not a clover kid).
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: French G. on January 14, 2012, 08:04:26 AM
My child wants a gun, she is 4 going on 20. Next year I'll start her on a .22, I want to expose her to competitive shooting, who knows. I just know that if you graduate in a class of 15 chances are the college scouts didn't stop by your school to check out your sports.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: Chuck Dye on January 14, 2012, 09:40:23 AM
Used to work with some LEOs who carried off duty.  As I recall, two had 2" .38 or .357 revolvers, one had a PPK.  That was when the department issued 4" .357s.  This is not reliable if you are actually compiling data and grinding out statistics.

bluestarlizzard, if you find the opportunity, try a SIG with the short trigger installed.  Thinner and slightly recontoured, the "short" applies to the length of pull. 
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: Tallpine on January 14, 2012, 09:43:40 AM
Don't have a gun yet, just swords and other fun things.

It takes less than a pound of pressure to cut human skin.  =)
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on January 14, 2012, 10:56:59 AM
It takes less than a pound of pressure to cut human skin.  =)

You learn that in the whore acadamy?
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: Hutch on January 14, 2012, 11:08:52 AM
Wife has 2x S&W M442's, one in purse and one for the nightstand.
Daughter 1 has a P3AT and my S&W M547.
Daughter 2 doesn't tote.

Daughter 1 is an avid shooter and married a semi-Gunnie, thank God.  The wife makes no time for it.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: MrsSmith on January 14, 2012, 11:23:41 AM
I'm sorry for all you guys whose wives won't or don't carry. I wish I had a magic solution for changing her mind, but kudos to you for taking full responsibility for her protection.

Ladies, thank you for posting your comments. Liz, which one of those do you usually carry? I think I remember something about the 1911 once but I don't recall now.

For those of you teaching or planning to teach your daughters to shoot - way to go!!

I'm adding gun make model, caliber, and use to a spreadsheet and will post the results when I'm done collecting data. As you can see here, it's a bit all over the board. I'm going to put something up on facebook too and sometime soon will have a full questionnaire for women shooters. And when the time comes APS will be the first to know what I'm doing and why! :)
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: Tallpine on January 14, 2012, 12:24:54 PM
You learn that in the whore acadamy?

You can't open the book of my life in the middle.  ;)
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: wmenorr67 on January 14, 2012, 12:25:53 PM
You can't open the book of my life in the middle.  ;)

You hope it is the middle.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: charby on January 14, 2012, 01:53:46 PM
My wife only has a Remington Semi Auto 20 gauge shotgun her dad gave her a couple years ago. I'm getting her a Rem 788 in .243 than has been cut to her LOP which I will pick up in a couple weeks. She doesn't know about this but she has mentioned she like to shoot something bigger than a .22lr rifle that fits her.

She likes to shoot my .22 and .38/.357 handguns. She prefers revolvers to pistols because they are easier for her to operate.

I don't ever push going shooting, she just will say something every now and then that she wants to go shoot.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on January 14, 2012, 02:27:09 PM
*sheepish*

I don't carry. I just never have gotten around to getting the permit.

Probably the xd, as that's why I bought it.

I wouldn't want to carry the 1911 due to rust factor, not because of size.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: wmenorr67 on January 14, 2012, 02:30:46 PM
*sheepish*

I don't carry. I just never have gotten around to getting the permit.

Probably the xd, as that's why I bought it.

I wouldn't want to carry the 1911 due to rust factor, not because of size.

Carrying the 1911 won't make you rust.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on January 14, 2012, 02:32:34 PM
Carrying the 1911 won't make you rust.
But it can make your hip turn green.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: geronimotwo on January 14, 2012, 02:37:14 PM
she doesn't carry, but enjoys shooting my smith 422 at the range.  she has the paperwork to get her carry permit, but hasn't completed it.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: BridgeRunner on January 14, 2012, 05:12:56 PM
...I've shot competition pistol for 6 years, shoot military matches and win guns, spent every waking moment of my life on guns for a few years and been qualified numerous times in the military and I don't know how to shoot...

Possibly, being a little bit absurd here?
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: Ben on January 14, 2012, 05:55:56 PM
Possibly, being a little bit absurd here?


I don't think he is. I was shooting for over 25 years before I took my first real defensive shooting class. At that point I realized I had a lot to learn.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: Larry Ashcraft on January 14, 2012, 06:02:20 PM
My wife has her permit, but rarely carries (she works on an Army base).  Her carry gun is a 2" barreled model 36 LadySmith, with a laser sight.

She prefers shooting Sporting Clays with a SXS 28 ga.  She's also game to try about anything, as proven by these two videos (PPSH43 SMG and a .470 NE double rifle):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWhtKiRrYA0&context=C3619dfcADOEgsToPDskKNPYUp1NWdzZxA_-rND1ei

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZi5VpAvgo&context=C3b6b877ADOEgsToPDskKHiD0HJC7YrSoddoA7sz8u
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: French G. on January 14, 2012, 07:50:45 PM
Possibly, being a little bit absurd here?


Not in the least. The day I don't learn something is the day I need to sell the guns. Yes, I can hit something with a bullet most of the time. I just resent the attitude of someone who has 2 hours experience and knows it all. The same woman who thinks she knows how to drive an antique tractor around 20% + slopes. My whole life has been dangerous equipment and that tractor came real close to being my life insurance check, yet she knows it all. Doesn't know how to steer when the front wheels won't turn it mind you, but she knows it all. Apparently doing it  is more important than admitting lack of knowledge and surviving to be a mom.

Or to paraphrase my hero. A man's got to know his limitations. A woman, not so much.

Oh, I remember, I was heavy into guns for 2-3 years before getting into competition. A case of factory .45 sometimes lasted a week. I knew it all. Then I went to my first match. Oh.

Anyway, but I digress.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: BridgeRunner on January 14, 2012, 08:23:38 PM
Knowing how to do something and knowing everything about something are not remotely the same thing. 

Stating that one knows how to do something does not indicate that one has nothing left to learn about that thing.

By your reasoning, you don't know how to speak English either. 

Self-awareness is good.  Stating that one doesn't know how to do something until one knows it better than it is possible for anyone, ever, to know it is just absurd.

Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on January 14, 2012, 08:31:49 PM
Knowing how to do something and knowing everything about something are not remotely the same thing. 

Stating that one knows how to do something does not indicate that one has nothing left to learn about that thing.

By your reasoning, you don't know how to speak English either. 

Self-awareness is good.  Stating that one doesn't know how to do something until one knows it better than it is possible for anyone, ever, to know it is just absurd.



Methinks that's his point.

I also find people who think they know all annoying, especially when it involves stuff that most people have many misconceptions about and/or could be dangarous.

If someone walks in looking to work where I work and thinks they know all there is about working with dogs because tey grew up with a family dog, I will laugh in their face and tell them to cut oreo's nails.

Then they can learn all about canine dental marks.
 :angel:
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: BridgeRunner on January 14, 2012, 09:02:03 PM
Methinks that's his point.

If that's his point, he's making it wrong.

Man says he doesn't know how to shoot.  He's been shooting at what I could consider a fairly high level of skill for a while now. 
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: charby on January 14, 2012, 09:52:40 PM
My wife has her permit, but rarely carries (she works on an Army base).  Her carry gun is a 2" barreled model 36 LadySmith, with a laser sight.

She prefers shooting Sporting Clays with a SXS 28 ga.  She's also game to try about anything, as proven by these two videos (PPSH43 SMG and a .470 NE double rifle):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWhtKiRrYA0&context=C3619dfcADOEgsToPDskKNPYUp1NWdzZxA_-rND1ei

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZi5VpAvgo&context=C3b6b877ADOEgsToPDskKHiD0HJC7YrSoddoA7sz8u

Thats pretty cool! I could see my wife liking the SM but not the .470 NE
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: Strings on January 15, 2012, 02:38:03 AM
Well, Spoon currently carries a Kimber compact .45. She also has a Colt Mustang (mom's old gun), and a Ruger SP101... but doesn't yet have holsters for either.

Mom in law is GOING to be carrying a full size Rock Island 1911, as soon as we find her a decent holster...
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: S. Williamson on January 15, 2012, 04:32:41 AM
Seems a lot of the womenfolk around here (that I personally know in OKC) prefer 7.62x39.  SKS platform, specifically.  Seems the Warsaw-Pact-Length stock fits them well, with the cartridge offering good performance.

Pistols, on the other hand...  =| Not many into them.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: Bob F. on January 15, 2012, 07:32:36 PM
SWMBO carries a G-19 wherever legal. Has a few others, doesn't shoot as much as I'd like her to. Sometimes better SA than me.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: wuluf on January 15, 2012, 08:05:21 PM
If it helps, I carry a S&W 686 .357 Magnum with 4" barrel.

My wife won't carry and isn't really into guns, but when we go to the range she is dead nuts accurate with hers...
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 15, 2012, 08:07:57 PM
My wife likes the Ruger 10-22, and. 22 LR firearms in general.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: Bigjake on January 15, 2012, 08:24:30 PM
SWMBO carries a Smith 37 daily,  and a Colt Mustang when she feels like it.  Her trail gun is  a Colt New Army.  On long guns,  she's partial to an M4gery, a lefty CZ452, and for shotguns, a lefty 20ga 870  I'm a luck guy :)
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: T.O.M. on January 15, 2012, 10:47:13 PM
My wife....she grew up a New York liberal.. She will  shoot with me....sometimes. She does really well with the Beretta 92, so it became our home defense handgun.  CCW?    Not a chance....but that works for us, as I drop her off and pick her up at the door of her office due to gas prices. wish she would.    I think it's hot!
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: Marnoot on January 16, 2012, 12:11:41 AM
My wife carries either a Springfield XD .45 or a Kel-tec P-3AT for concealed-carry, has a Ruger Bearcat for fun, and will soon be getting a 20 gauge Remington 870 Express for home defense use.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: AmbulanceDriver on January 16, 2012, 01:07:46 AM
My lovely wife just totes me around and hopes I'm armed.  She don't shoot.

ditto...
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: cordex on January 16, 2012, 11:46:32 AM
Wife likes to shoot a 1911 with a .22LR conversion kit, did pretty well in a training class with a CZ-75B in 9mm but doesn't carry anything (although she does have a lifetime pistol permit).

Best friend's wife carries one of those little, aluminum-framed Kimber 1911s.

Wife's grandma keeps a NAA .22 mini-revolver handy.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: AJ Dual on January 16, 2012, 02:24:37 PM
My wife:

Nothing.

Won't shoot.

Does not carry.

Probably does not want me to carry, which is why I don't tell her when I do. (which is generally when I'm wearing pants, not drinking, and not stepping foot on my kids school grounds.)
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: MillCreek on January 16, 2012, 03:18:33 PM
Aren't the situations in which you are not wearing pants exactly the situations in which you should be carrying? Or at least have it within arm's reach?   :angel:
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: AJ Dual on January 16, 2012, 03:49:43 PM
When I'm not wearing pants, it's in reach in my pants on my bedside, and there's another firearm in the GunVault under my nightstand, or the pants are in the bathroom with me while I'm taking a shower.

Drinking, and school? Well, that sucks, but better to be vulnerable, rather than risk losing all RKBA...
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: seeker_two on January 16, 2012, 04:36:42 PM
Aren't the situations in which you are not wearing pants exactly the situations in which you should be carrying? Or at least have it within arm's reach?   :angel:

And what about kilts?......  =|
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 16, 2012, 10:24:06 PM
I'm doing an informal survey to learn more about what women carry and use, for market research. If your wife, girlfriend, significant other, mother, sister, daughter, or all of the above carry a gun or use a gun, please tell me what it is and what caliber.

Surely you jest.

One woman I dated for about ten years had previously been married to a police officer. They lived on a small lake. The day he left the force, she took his guns, rowed out to the middle of the lake, and dropped them overboard.

My wife despises guns. Fortunately for me, I had (most of) my guns before I met her so she knows she can't demand that they go away, but she makes it clear that she DOES ... NOT ... LIKE ... GUNS. Visiting her family last Christmas, I was mildly astonished to discover that her son owns guns and shoots, her brother owns guns and shoots, her nephew shoots (I don't think he owns) -- the whole fan damily seems to be into guns. Gotta wonder what happened to my wife ...
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: wmenorr67 on January 16, 2012, 11:20:25 PM
Surely you jest.

One woman I dated for about ten years had previously been married to a police officer. They lived on a small lake. The day he left the force, she took his guns, rowed out to the middle of the lake, and dropped them overboard.

My wife despises guns. Fortunately for me, I had (most of) my guns before I met her so she knows she can't demand that they go away, but she makes it clear that she DOES ... NOT ... LIKE ... GUNS. Visiting her family last Christmas, I was mildly astonished to discover that her son owns guns and shoots, her brother owns guns and shoots, her nephew shoots (I don't think he owns) -- the whole fan damily seems to be into guns. Gotta wonder what happened to my wife ...

She was adopted but hasn't been told.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: Jocassee on January 16, 2012, 11:43:31 PM
My mom, when she carries, carries a Smith .357 with .38s loaded. I have two other female friends who carry, One a hammerless Smith .38 and the other a Ruger LCR, I think.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: Regolith on January 16, 2012, 11:53:33 PM
My mom has a Ruger M77 in 7mm-08 and a Browning Auto-5 in 20 gauge, but she hasn't used either of them for 20 or 30 years. My sister doesn't own any guns, but will occasionally shoot one of mine or one of my father's. (Actually, same goes for my brother). They don't mind guns, they just aren't "into" them.
Title: Re: The women in your life and their guns
Post by: LadySmith on January 17, 2012, 12:51:19 AM
<vader>Impressive.</vader>

Why, thank you sir.  =)

Ladies, thank you for posting your comments.

I'm adding gun make model, caliber, and use to a spreadsheet and will post the results when I'm done collecting data. As you can see here, it's a bit all over the board. I'm going to put something up on facebook too and sometime soon will have a full questionnaire for women shooters. And when the time comes APS will be the first to know what I'm doing and why! :)

You're welcome and I'm looking forward to the questionnaire.