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Title: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: Ben on June 23, 2012, 10:41:59 AM
I've missed this whole movement up to this point. Apparently it started in the UK, where it's now dying down somehwat. The US seems to be picking up on it as per this recent story from ABC. The people in the video are an interesting lot, as is the "green" US flag.

"A tax for the people, not on the people" (unless of course you're a working class slob trying to work hard and better yourself by saving your wages and investing them).

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/robin-hood-tax-reforms-newest-hero/story?id=16605674#.T-XTQsWbH0k
Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: TommyGunn on June 23, 2012, 10:55:45 AM
Good grief, just what we need, another wild-eyed "TAX - THE - EVIL - RICH!!!"   scheme!
B-b-b-b-but the people are hurtin'!!!! So let the WALL STREET CZARS hurt TOO!
[tinfoil] [tinfoil]
 To which I respond; [barf]

No nation has ever taxed itself into prosperity..........NEVER.
Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: MechAg94 on June 23, 2012, 10:56:59 AM
Sounds like more 99% BS.  

So they are going to make it more difficult for working class people to invest.  IMO, it is another ill-conceived barrier helping prevent middle class people from getting rich.
Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: Fly320s on June 23, 2012, 11:42:19 AM
Even if this scheme would work, why do people think it is OK to take money from one person and give it to another?
Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: Ben on June 23, 2012, 11:57:28 AM
Even if this scheme would work, why do people think it is OK to take money from one person and give it to another?

Plus the whole "Robin Hood" name is bothersome. If I recall the legend correctly, Robin Hood basically gave a "tax refund" to citizens who were unfairly and outrageously taxed by their government. The "Robin Hood tax" should be a movement against the US government for high taxes, versus a movement to tax citizens, if the movement was going to use the original theme.
Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: lupinus on June 23, 2012, 12:03:32 PM
Plus the whole "Robin Hood" name is bothersome. If I recall the legend correctly, Robin Hood basically gave a "tax refund" to citizens who were unfairly and outrageously taxed by their government. The "Robin Hood tax" should be a movement against the US government for high taxes, versus a movement to tax citizens, if the movement was going to use the original theme.
Indeed. But bothering to take details into account is far to troublesome. We've got an agenda here man!
Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: seeker_two on June 23, 2012, 12:03:51 PM
Even if this scheme would work, why do people think it is OK to take money from one person and give it to another?

....and why does anyone think the gov't will spend the money better than the people who earned it?....
Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: MrsSmith on June 23, 2012, 01:00:19 PM
That was my first question. Who's going to administer this little pot of cash? And I say little because there's plenty of other stuff out there to invest your funds in without fooling with stocks.

Some folks really just have no concept of reality. I wonder what that's like, to live in a little fantasy world of your own creation?
Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: Ben on June 23, 2012, 01:08:26 PM
Some folks really just have no concept of reality. I wonder what that's like, to live in a little fantasy world of your own creation?

It's pretty cool actually. I'm going hot air ballooning over Zambia this afternoon, then having a sunset cocktail (huh uh - he said cocktail Beavis) from my rocking chair on Olympus Mons.
Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: RocketMan on June 23, 2012, 01:34:04 PM
More lefty idiots not thinking things through. Just a bunch of emoting fools, making themselves feel good about "doing something" for "the peepuls".
How many of them have 401(k)s that they actively manage?  I'll bet more than a few.  Move some things around between stock funds to gain an advantage and take a nice hit instead.
Just another stupid scheme to gin up class warfare.
Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 23, 2012, 06:52:57 PM
....and why does anyone think the gov't will spend the money better than the people who earned it?....



Exactly. That should be response to pretty much any call for new/higher taxes.
Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: Boomhauer on June 24, 2012, 12:08:41 AM
Even if this scheme would work, why do people think it is OK to take money from one person and give it to another?

Because they are lazy, selfish aholes who think they deserve what you worked for and that the gov't should use force to take it from you and give it to them.

Such trash should be shot for the good of humanity.

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No nation has ever taxed itself into prosperity.

No *expletive deleted*, Sherlock. But the objective is not to tax the nation into prosperity, the objective is to completely break the economy so communism can be implemented and the US can become just like the USSR. Because after all, the only reason Communism hasn't worked is that the "right people" haven't been in charge.





Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: TommyGunn on June 24, 2012, 12:14:12 AM
...No *expletive deleted*, Sherlock. But the objective is not to tax the nation into prosperity, the objective is to completely break the economy so communism can be implemented and the US can become just like the USSR. Because after all, the only reason Communism hasn't worked is that the "right people" haven't been in charge.

Never believed anything different.   We need a tongue-in-cheek smilie.
Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: Azrael256 on June 24, 2012, 12:14:26 AM
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Some folks really just have no concept of reality. I wonder what that's like, to live in a little fantasy world of your own creation?

I'm envious, really.  I have a few relatives and acquaintances who live that way, and it looks really great.  They all have degrees in underwater basket weaving or *studies, and have spouses with MDs, JDs, MBAs, etc.  Seems like somebody else's steady income is key to your success.

I guess that's the gist of the article, isn't it.
Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: birdman on June 24, 2012, 07:15:41 AM
Yeah, I don't get it.  When I want more money to get more stuff, I don't get jealous and want someone else's money, I goram find a way to make it myself.
Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: seeker_two on June 24, 2012, 08:00:31 AM
When I want more money to get more stuff, I don't get jealous and want someone else's money, I goram find a way to make it myself.

That's just wrong thinking there, birdman....we have to get you re-educated into the proper Progressive mindset....  :police:
Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: birdman on June 24, 2012, 09:01:00 AM
That's just wrong thinking there, birdman....we have to get you re-educated into the proper Progressive mindset....  :police:

Given the taxes I pay, I think I've already been educated... :(
Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: MrsSmith on June 24, 2012, 10:55:20 AM
It's pretty cool actually. I'm going hot air ballooning over Zambia this afternoon, then having a sunset cocktail (huh uh - he said cocktail Beavis) from my rocking chair on Olympus Mons.

Well you have fun with that. I'll be here, shooting up your ammo and drinking all your booze. Be sure to announce yourself when you get home so I don't mistake you for a burglar.
 [ar15]

What worries me though is that my daughter is in school right now, surrounded by this kind of liberal and/or socialist mindset. she's a tough one, but even the best of us could be swayed at that age into following the pack on occasion. <shudder>
Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: MechAg94 on June 24, 2012, 08:21:07 PM
IMO, there are two characterics to these liberals to remember:
1.  They have convinced themselves that rich people get rich by taking/cheating money from good hard working poor or lower middle class people.  The got rich by screwing the little guy.  Or they inherited their wealth. 

2.  They also assume or have convinced themselves that all rich people and/or corporations are corrupt, more corrupt than any government agency who would spend these higher taxes.  So that in their mind outweighs the govt corruption.

3.  Finally, the ends justify the means to most of them.  As long a tiny amount of good is done, it doesn't matter than 90% of the money is embezzled or wasted.  Some good was done and after all, the people running things are good like minded people who understand the goal. 

I'd like to see an end to govt welfare and money give a ways simply to show people just what privately run charities can really do.
Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: RoadKingLarry on June 24, 2012, 08:41:52 PM
Libtards also are of the understanding that no matter how oppressively you tax the rich they will continue to operate in a manner that will produce the tax revenue they want.
Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: Ben on June 24, 2012, 08:49:32 PM
IMO, there are two characterics to these liberals to remember:
1.  They have convinced themselves that rich people get rich by taking/cheating money from good hard working poor or lower middle class people.  The got rich by screwing the little guy.  Or they inherited their wealth.  

More than that, they make themselves believe that the "rich" are Thurston Howell the Third, or the top hat guy in Monopoly. They simply don't believe that their middle class neighbors that work on the assembly line or run a plumbing business out of their truck might be trying to augment their income or prepare for their retirement by investing in the stock market. It's the "little guys" that wants to take responsibility for their retirement that get hurt by this the most, because they're the ones that are scrimping and saving and taking responsibility for themselves above and beyond their weekly paycheck.

The people that propose these laws (outside of the idiot "rock stars" and celebrities in the video) are people who simply don't believe in preparing for a retirement, because someone else will take care of that for them when the time comes.

This also comes into play with Obama's talk of raising the capitol gains tax. It's again, not the "rich Wall Street Elite" being hit the hardest by that - it's the working stiff that sticks their extra money into a Vanguard account instead of blowing it on a cruise or something. It's all an attack on responsible people.
Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: sanglant on June 24, 2012, 09:37:25 PM
is it just me, or did one of these savants really say. the way to stop .gov from robbing people, was a new tax? [tinfoil]
Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: Doggy Daddy on June 24, 2012, 10:20:53 PM
is it just me, or did one of these savants really say. the way to stop .gov from robbing people, was a new tax? [tinfoil]

And one of the geniuses wants the money to start a farm in the city.   :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: MrsSmith on June 25, 2012, 09:56:50 AM
Yeah, that cracked me up. "Urban farmers."
Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: RoadKingLarry on June 25, 2012, 11:19:42 AM
Nothing wrong with "urban farming", there's a bunch of urban land that could be better used growing food. I'd much rather see a big community garden than a municipal golf course. We just don't need the fed.gov involved.
Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: Tallpine on June 25, 2012, 12:51:26 PM
Nothing wrong with "urban farming", there's a bunch of urban land that could be better used growing food. I'd much rather see a big community garden than a municipal golf course. We just don't need the fed.gov involved.


But how else can we decide what kinds of seeds to plant ?   ;)
Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: Angel Eyes on June 27, 2012, 03:52:44 PM
The photo caption:

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The U.S. Robin Hood Tax Campaign protest outside JP Morgan Stanley Corporate Headquaters on June 19, 2012 in New York City.

Last I checked, J.P. Morgan and Morgan Stanley were two separate companies.

Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: 41magsnub on June 27, 2012, 03:54:57 PM
The photo caption:

Last I checked, J.P. Morgan and Morgan Stanley were two separate companies.



That's what "they" want you to think.   [tinfoil]
Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: Angel Eyes on June 27, 2012, 04:05:03 PM
That's what "they" want you to think.   [tinfoil]

And those rich guys all look alike anyway ...
Title: Re: The Robin Hood Tax
Post by: Scout26 on June 27, 2012, 06:55:00 PM
Just perusing Wikipedia and didn't we try something very similar to the "Robin Hood" Tax.  Oh yes, the Revenue Act of 1913 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue_Act_of_1913#Income_tax) which would only subject the top 1% (now why does that sound familiar?) to paying this new tax.

Sorry, we've already been sold this Bill of Goods once before....