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Title: I miss Dubya
Post by: zxcvbob on June 09, 2013, 01:33:45 AM
He was misunderestimated.
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: Monkeyleg on June 09, 2013, 03:23:44 AM
Hell, right about now I even miss Clinton.

W had more class in his little finger than Obama and his entire administration combined.
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: French G. on June 09, 2013, 10:17:11 AM
3,2,1 to being told that bushmccainromney are no different than Obama. Not ideal none of them, but we currently live in a national embarrasment. I think the S. Rice appointment is a new high bar set in the embarrassment olympics.
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on June 09, 2013, 10:30:09 AM
3,2,1 to being told that bushmccainromney are no different than Obama. Not ideal none of them, but we currently live in a national embarrasment. I think the S. Rice appointment is a new high bar set in the embarrassment olympics.

i think cass substeins wifes appointment is possibly worse
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: Chuck Dye on June 09, 2013, 10:30:31 AM
The nickname police should be along shortly...
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: mtnbkr on June 09, 2013, 10:36:03 AM
The nickname police should be along shortly...

?

Chris
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on June 09, 2013, 10:40:21 AM
5 reasons why
http://freebeacon.com/samantha-powers-five-worst-statements/

though 4 and 5 i kinda like

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/05/who-exactly-is-samantha-power-obamas-new-u-n-ambassador-pick-everything-you-need-to-know/
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: Ben on June 09, 2013, 10:43:07 AM
I think the S. Rice appointment is a new high bar set in the embarrassment olympics.

I won't call that an embarrassment. What I will call it is something that won't get through the APS cuss filters.
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: Chuck Dye on June 09, 2013, 11:05:55 AM
?

Chris

http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=35151.msg704445#msg704445
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: mtnbkr on June 09, 2013, 11:52:28 AM
http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=35151.msg704445#msg704445

Dubya isn't derogatory.  It's used by supporters and detractors alike and even appears to be endorsed by Bush himself on this page:http://www.nndb.com/group/750/000091477/

If you scroll down, you see the specific nicknames GWB applied to those around him.  Dubya and Bushie are listed for himself.

Chris
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: Monkeyleg on June 09, 2013, 12:02:23 PM
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If you scroll down, you see the specific nicknames GWB applied to those around him.  Dubya and Bushie are listed for himself.

And what nicknames does Obama approve for himself? My guess would be none, unless it's "your Highness".
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: Jamisjockey on June 09, 2013, 01:07:43 PM
And what nicknames does Obama approve for himself? My guess would be none, unless it's "your Highness".

Barry?  :rofl:
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: lee n. field on June 09, 2013, 01:39:53 PM
Mr. Seotoro?
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: SADShooter on June 09, 2013, 02:01:52 PM
And what nicknames does Obama approve for himself? My guess would be none, unless it's "your Highness".

I bet he'd take a shine to Dear Leader.
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: roo_ster on June 09, 2013, 02:34:35 PM
3,2,1 to being told that bushmccainromney are no different than Obama. Not ideal none of them, but we currently live in a national embarrasment. I think the S. Rice appointment is a new high bar set in the embarrassment olympics.

GWB would have been better on the economy, but got the Big Data Surveillance State into high gear.  BHO merely flipped the nitrous oxide switch.

McCain is every bit an economic ignoramus as BHO, every bit as cavalier about civil liberties, and even more bellicose.  Dude has an odd form of Tourettes in that he can't get through a conversation without calling for someone to be bombed.

Romney would have been better on the economy and not as embarrassing, but was pretty much a squish elsewhere.

All of the three despise actual Americans to the point where they want to flood & replace us with a third world peasantry.

It is turtles shinola sandwiches all the way down.
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: lupinus on June 09, 2013, 02:54:52 PM
And what nicknames does Obama approve for himself? My guess would be none, unless it's "your Highness".
I could, but I'd probably short out the word filter.
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: French G. on June 09, 2013, 05:55:33 PM
GWB would have been better on the economy, but got the Big Data Surveillance State into high gear.  BHO merely flipped the nitrous oxide switch.

McCain is every bit an economic ignoramus as BHO, every bit as cavalier about civil liberties, and even more bellicose.  Dude has an odd form of Tourettes in that he can't get through a conversation without calling for someone to be bombed.

Romney would have been better on the economy and not as embarrassing, but was pretty much a squish elsewhere.

All of the three despise actual Americans to the point where they want to flood & replace us with a third world peasantry.

It is turtles shinola sandwiches all the way down.

Bush was a patriot act disaster to be sure, but 3 out of 4 of those people loved their country, we could have at least worked on the details of their flawed visions. Our president hates America and that's sad.
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: Gowen on June 09, 2013, 06:15:51 PM
And what nicknames does Obama approve for himself? My guess would be none, unless it's "your Highness".

Emir? :rofl:

I mean it tongue and sheik.
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: TommyGunn on June 09, 2013, 06:25:43 PM
I miss Dubya too.... :'( :'( :'(
I especially miss Reagan. :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: ArfinGreebly on June 09, 2013, 06:53:38 PM

Bush was a patriot act disaster to be sure, but 3 out of 4 of those people loved their country, we could have at least worked on the details of their flawed visions. Our president hates America and that's sad.


We do understand that Bush didn't author nor request nor oversee the writing of the Patriot Act, right?

We do get this?

We further understand that Joe Biden has publicly taken credit for authoring the Patriot Act?  Yes?

Yes, Bush signed it.  He sure as hell hadn't read it, and it sounded like a good "DO SOMETHING!" remedy.  But blaming him for it?  Meh.  Not so much.
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: French G. on June 09, 2013, 07:01:42 PM
Signed it, defended it, and I believe passed the re-auth on it. Executive wears it, military 101.

Now, consider people we appoint. Bush: John Roberts, John Bolton. Obama: Elena Kagan, Susan Rice.
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: Waitone on June 09, 2013, 07:34:16 PM
If he vetoed the bill it would not be in effect today giving cover to fascists.

The Patriot Act is his responsibility.
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: roo_ster on June 09, 2013, 10:10:26 PM
Bush was a patriot act disaster to be sure, but 3 out of 4 of those people loved their country, we could have at least worked on the details of their flawed visions. Our president hates America and that's sad.

Sad, yes.  But...

If they loved their country, they wouldn't try to replace and cornhole their countrymen.  Action, not outward sentimentality, is what I care about.


Title: Re: Re: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: makattak on June 09, 2013, 10:48:56 PM
If he vetoed the bill it would not be in effect today giving cover to fascists.

The Patriot Act is his responsibility.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act

I'm not going to say he bears no responsibility,  but look at the yeas and nays. A veto would NOT have prevented its enactment.

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Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on June 10, 2013, 03:52:05 AM
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act

I'm not going to say he bears no responsibility,  but look at the yeas and nays. A veto would NOT have prevented its enactment.

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Oh you gonna get all factual ?  Spoils the bombast

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Title: Re: Re: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: MicroBalrog on June 10, 2013, 05:51:09 AM
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act

I'm not going to say he bears no responsibility,  but look at the yeas and nays. A veto would NOT have prevented its enactment.

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Vetoing would have likely forced a debate on this - do you think all 98 of these people would have still be  voting for it after, say, a month's debate?
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: Tallpine on June 10, 2013, 09:39:01 AM
"I voted for it because everybody else voted for it" ?   ;/
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on June 10, 2013, 09:44:57 AM
Us missing "dubya" is like a domestic violence victim missing when he only hit us once, and only on weekends when he was drinking.
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: TommyGunn on June 10, 2013, 10:40:51 AM
Us missing "dubya" is like a domestic violence victim missing when he only hit us once, and only on weekends when he was drinking.
Phooooey.
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: Scout26 on June 10, 2013, 11:10:59 AM
It could have sunset, however:
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On Saturday, February 27, 2010, President Barack Obama signed into law legislation that would temporarily extend for one year, three controversial provisions of the Patriot Act that had been set to expire:[178] [179] [180]

    Authorize court-approved roving wiretaps that permit surveillance on multiple phones.
    Allow court-approved seizure of records and property in anti-terrorism operations.
    Permit surveillance against a so-called lone wolf, a non-U.S. citizen engaged in terrorism who may not be part of a recognized terrorist group.[181]

In a vote on February 8, 2011, the House of Representatives considered a further extension of the Act through the end of 2011.[182] House leadership moved the extension bill under suspension of the rules, which is intended for noncontroversial legislation and requires two-thirds majority to pass.[182] After the vote, the extension bill did not pass; 277 members voted in favor, which was less than the 290 votes needed to pass the bill under suspension of the rules.[182] Without an extension, the Act was set to expire on February 28, 2011. However, it eventually passed, 275-144.[183] The FISA Sunsets Extension Act of 2011 was signed into law February 25, 2011.

On May 26, 2011, President Barack Obama used an Autopen to sign the PATRIOT Sunsets Extension Act of 2011,[2] a four-year extension of three key provisions in the USA PATRIOT Act while he was in France:[3]roving wiretaps, searches of business records (the "library records provision"), and conducting surveillance of "lone wolves" — individuals suspected of terrorist-related activities not linked to terrorist groups.[4] Republican leaders[184] questioned if the use of the Autopen met the constitutional requirements for signing a bill into law.[185]

Had Mr. "No more illegal wiretaps", kept his word, we wouldn't have this.  Here's Senator Obama's speech:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAQlsS9diBs
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: MicroBalrog on June 10, 2013, 12:14:31 PM
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Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: HankB on June 10, 2013, 12:22:01 PM
Us missing "dubya" is like a domestic violence victim missing when he only hit us once, and only on weekends when he was drinking.
The way I see it, when you've been stuck in the fire for almost 5 years, the frying pan starts to look pretty good.
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: roo_ster on June 10, 2013, 02:25:04 PM
Us missing "dubya" is like a domestic violence victim missing when he only hit us once, and only on weekends when he was drinking.

Hey, didn't we learn upthread that he really does love us?  It is just the alcohol that makes him do that.  Besides, I am sure we can make him change...
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on June 10, 2013, 02:46:14 PM
Hey, didn't we learn upthread that he really does love us?  It is just the alcohol that makes him do that.  Besides, I am sure we can make him change...

alanon for you!
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: MechAg94 on June 10, 2013, 08:16:43 PM
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Considering Obama is still blaming stuff on the Bush administration 5 years later, that second line is BS.
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: Jamisjockey on June 10, 2013, 08:26:18 PM
It could have sunset, however:
Had Mr. "No more illegal wiretaps", kept his word, we wouldn't have this.  Here's Senator Obama's speech:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAQlsS9diBs

This. 
While I didn't vote for Senator 1/3 of a term and voted present more than anything else.....
He did make some campaign promises that I wished so much he would have kept.
True transparency.  Lie.
Close gitmo.  Well, not really a lie so much as a he kind of tried and didn't' spend any political capital making it true.
No lobbyist appointments in the cabinet or as advisors.  Lie.
!After hemming and hawing about it forever), he approved a surge in Afghanistan...after promising to end the wars. 
No targeting of Americans.....lol funny *expletive deleted*it there, Mister President.
Wiretapping, etc etc.

He talked a good civil liberties game on the campaign trail.  In the end, he's just another version of his predecessor, except worse.
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: Tallpine on June 10, 2013, 09:16:14 PM
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he's just another version of his predecessor, except worse.

True  =(
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: ArfinGreebly on June 10, 2013, 11:50:23 PM

He talked a good civil liberties game on the campaign trail.  In the end, he's just another version of his predecessor, except worse.


More worse than you might imagine.  Way more worse.

Stay tuned for Trevor Loudon's new book.  My wife has been working as an editor on that book for the last two years or so.  It's full of some really dry material -- nearly six hundred pages of it -- and it's simultaneously one of the most depressing and angering compilations of villainy in our government I've seen in some time.

Big-O isn't just a "bad president," he credibly qualifies as a "Manchurian president" in many ways.

Locks my jaw just to think of it.
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 11, 2013, 12:21:25 AM
Big-O isn't just a "bad president," he credibly qualifies as a "Manchurian president" in many ways.


The Occupy the White House president. An occupied White House for an occupied America.
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: Balog on June 11, 2013, 01:36:05 AM
More worse than you might imagine.  Way more worse.

Stay tuned for Trevor Loudon's new book.  My wife has been working as an editor on that book for the last two years or so.  It's full of some really dry material -- nearly six hundred pages of it -- and it's simultaneously one of the most depressing and angering compilations of villainy in our government I've seen in some time.

Big-O isn't just a "bad president," he credibly qualifies as a "Manchurian president" in many ways.

Locks my jaw just to think of it.

Please start a thread on it when the book comes out, I'd love to read it.
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: Lee on June 11, 2013, 06:23:08 PM
No. Can't say I miss him...I miss the money my country used to have.
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: Monkeyleg on June 11, 2013, 07:27:29 PM
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No. Can't say I miss him...I miss the money my country used to have.

The money is still there. It's just changed hands a few times.
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: Balog on June 12, 2013, 02:29:55 AM
Only thing I miss about the Bush years is a press willing to hold a potus accountable. Of course you also had a bunch of R's supporting massive fed.gov expansion cause the policritters pushing it were R's as well so...
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: Angel Eyes on June 12, 2013, 02:42:35 PM
Breaking news: Dubya now more popular than Obama:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/163022/former-president-george-bush-image-ratings-improve.aspx
Title: Re: I miss Dubya
Post by: TommyGunn on June 12, 2013, 05:45:40 PM
Breaking news: Dubya now more popular than Obama:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/163022/former-president-george-bush-image-ratings-improve.aspx

  Yea, great, NOW that he's outta office! :facepalm: :mad: :mad: ;/