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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Balog on January 28, 2015, 05:06:54 PM
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http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/education/2015/01/27/elementary-students-in-gustine-texas-forced-to-lower-their-pants-for-inspection-after-feces-found-on-floor/22435367/
If someone ever tries to force my daughters to take off their clothes so they can "inspect" their underwear then there will be severe repercussions.
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I can't say how I would react to this and stay within APS's rules
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Haven't they ever heard of security cameras?
Even in the land of freedom we have idiots.
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http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/education/2015/01/27/elementary-students-in-gustine-texas-forced-to-lower-their-pants-for-inspection-after-feces-found-on-floor/22435367/
If someone ever tries to force my daughters to take off their clothes so they can "inspect" their underwear then there will be severe repercussions.
Severe doesn't begin to describe it, and Gustine isn't one of those places where parents are likely to let it slide, either. I wouldn't be surprised if some of those teachers need to leave the state soon.
Looks like the board meeting is at 6 tomorrow. I just might try to make it if I get off work in time and see what happens. It might put Springer to shame.
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Get video if you go
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The board and teachers and educrats will have earned every last ounce of contempt and anger poured over them. It is for times like this that tar and feathers were made. For the encouragement of the others.
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Dang it. I was thinking about Texas as a possible retirement state. First I crossed Colorado off the list. Then Washington. Now Texas.
What's left that's moderately free of earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes and blizzards -- and doesn't tax the residents to death?
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Virginia south of prince william county
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Dang it. I was thinking about Texas as a possible retirement state. First I crossed Colorado off the list. Then Washington. Now Texas.
What's left that's moderately free of earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes and blizzards -- and doesn't tax the residents to death?
Western South Carolina
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Sicko pervs.
Back when I was a youngster, even in the lower grades, FORCE would have been required to disrobe the students.
Such antics by school staff would probably would have prompted a response by the parents that would have required a response by multiple ambulances to the school . . .
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Dang it. I was thinking about Texas as a possible retirement state. First I crossed Colorado off the list. Then Washington. Now Texas.
What's left that's moderately free of earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes and blizzards -- and doesn't tax the residents to death?
Every state has a pervasive level of stupid attached to the public teat, via public schools and public employment.
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The board and teachers and educrats will have earned every last ounce of contempt and anger poured over them. It is for times like this that tar and feathers were made. For the encouragement of the others.
I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see a tar cooker parked outside the meeting. Gustine is pretty rural, and I can imagine the meeting being an outright verbal lynching...if it stays restrained to just verbal.
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Anyone besides me wonder what they were looking for? Racing stripes in a boy's shorts doesn't mean the kid is guilty of leaving a little something on the gym floor. I mean, even if a kid has a little something left dangling, how is that gonna ID him as the perp? Not to minimize the level of stupid for doing this in the first place, but I'm trying to wrap my mind around the thought process...what the hell did they think they were going to find to solve the Phantom Pooper case here?
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Anyone besides me wonder what they were looking for? Racing stripes in a boy's shorts doesn't mean the kid is guilty of leaving a little something on the gym floor.
That was pretty much my thought on the matter. Unless they did it within minutes of the actual deposit, who's to say the kid didn't head straight to the bathroom to clean up afterward?
Plus, I just can't imagine any shortage of spare trail cameras in Comanche County that could be used to get real evidence.
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Every state has a pervasive level of stupid attached to the public teat, via public schools and public employment.
Yes, educrats are everywhere. The trick is finding a community or school district where the school board isn't just a shill for the teacher's union.
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Yes, educrats are everywhere. The trick is finding a community or school district where the school board isn't just a shill for the teacher's union.
It's the necessary result when you require an education degree for every position and the education departments are mostly peopled with worthless ideologues. (In addition to attracting the dumbest -on average- students attending college.)
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It's the necessary result when you require an education degree for every position and the education departments are mostly peopled with worthless ideologues. (In addition to attracting the dumbest -on average- students attending college.)
It isn't so much that they attract the dumbest students so much as it is one of the easiest degrees to get depending on the subject matter.
I had a roomate in college who already had his accounting degree, but wanted to teach/coach and was spending a year or so getting his teaching certificate. He was taking a class on how to teach Algebra and he said some of the people in there could barely handle the math.
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It isn't so much that they attract the dumbest students so much as it is one of the easiest degrees to get depending on the subject matter.
The local university's only full PhD program was Education Administration last time I checked. IOW, it exists solely to be Doctor Principal.
How can there be that much to learn about it? Will their next PhD program be in Simplified Integer Arithmetic?
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It isn't so much that they attract the dumbest students so much as it is one of the easiest degrees to get depending on the subject matter.
Statistically the least intelligent students are ed majors.
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Question is who checked the staff?
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Question is who checked the staff?
Well, word from one resident is that the idiot who came up with that plan was hoping that somebody would confess when they announced it, but nobody did, and they felt compelled to follow through since the threat had already been made.
Also, he said that at least half the parents kept their kids home today, and are planning to demand swift, decisive action at the board meeting tonight.
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My thoughts being that maybe a staff member left the poo.
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How can there be that much to learn about it? Will their next PhD program be in Simplified Integer Arithmetic?
Won end won are to.
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Must be one of Gigabuist's customers visiting that school.
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Dang it. I was thinking about Texas as a possible retirement state. First I crossed Colorado off the list. Then Washington. Now Texas.
What's left that's moderately free of earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes and blizzards -- and doesn't tax the residents to death?
South Dakota
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Some moron got fired up " we've got to do something!" No one was smart enough to stop him and once the stupid juggernaut starts rolling folks tend to reinvest in a bad decision rather than cut their losses
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South Dakota
The "relatively free of ... blizzards" kinda kicks SD out of the running.
Keep Texas on the list. One idiot educrat doea not a state make. Note the parents' immediate, swift, and absolute demands for action. That's the real Texas (aside from a few liberal bastions like Austin, et al).
Brad
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Some moron got fired up " we've got to do something!" No one was smart enough to stop him and once the stupid juggernaut starts rolling folks tend to reinvest in a bad decision rather than cut their losses
Looks like the principal and a coach are now "on leave." Presumably until everybody forgets about it and they can either quietly return or quietly move to another district.
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Looks like the principal and a coach are now "on leave." Presumably until everybody forgets about it and they can either quietly return or quietly move to another district.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10200173375934982
Quality could be a lot better. Here's the accompanying post from Cipriano Rivera:
I was asked by Marie Medina to speak on her daughters behalf at the Gustine ISD board meeting tonight. I was there as an advocate for her daughter. Below are the comments I made. Marie has asked me to post these comments. and the video she recorded.
The comments do not match the video because of a three minute time limit.
"Cesar Chavez wrote, "Once social change begins, it cannot be reversed. You cannot un-educate the person who has learned to read. You cannot humiliate the person who feels pride. You cannot oppress the people who are not afraid anymore."
Good evening. My name is Cipriano Rivera. First and foremost I am a parent and what occurred here in Gustine should concern all parents near and far. It certainly concerns me as a parent and as a fellow teacher. I am a kindergarten teacher and my wife teaches 2nd grade. This is my son, Diego Rivera who is learning to participate in the democratic process. I have been asked by Marie Medina to speak on behalf of her daughter, Eliza Medina. I am here as an advocate for Eliza.
There are so many adjectives that a young child should not ever experience at school which include: fear, humiliation, coercion, shame, violation and many more. Unfortunately, those adjectives are now a part of Eliza's school experience. A deplorable experience that never should have occurred.
Eliza didn't want to pull her pants down in school when directed by her teacher. She felt uncomfortable being in a room alone with her teacher and being asked to unbutton her pants, asked to unzip her pants and ultimately to pull her pants down. Every fiber of her being told her that wasn't right. We teach our children to never do things like this at home and at school. However, we also teach our children to be respectful and to obey their teachers. This blanket strip search of students under duress has communicated a very confusing message to the children violated. This strip search has profoundly punished these children when they committed no wrong. I am also in disbelief that children were instructed to pull their pants down when alone in a room with an educator. That should never happen.
Mrs. Medina has called the ACLU and LULAC to look into her child's Constitutional Rights violations.
In Safford Unified School District #1 v. Redding, on June 16, 2009, the United States Supreme Court Ruled that Arizona school officials Strip Search of a 13-year-old girl violated the Constitution's protections against unreasonable search or seizure.
The girl was strip searched on the suspicion she might be hiding ibuprofen in her underwear.
In that case school officials were looking for drugs. Here in Gustine, TX, what were school officials looking for?
The search that occurred here in Gustine violates the Fourth Amendment right to be secure against "unreasonable searches and seizures" as well as the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution which provides that no state shall deny to any person within its jurisdiction "the equal protection of the laws".
Every child that was searched had their Fourth and Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution violated. Every child. That is something that never should happen to any child within the borders of this great nation.
Tragically, Eliza has now been subjected to retaliation, bullying and harassment for standing up for her God given rights. Last night high school aged girls drove by her house screaming obscenities at her and her family. At school she has also been subjected to retaliation and harassment to the point that she doesn't want to return to school. Eliza did what she's been taught to do. Report the incident to her parents.
Have professional counsellors been brought in to counsel the students and parents? If not, why not? Given the treatment Eliza has been subjected to I ask that anti-bullying lessons be given to all grade levels as well as tolerance lessons. There should never be social and peer punishment when our children do what is right.
These children are hurting and need to be cared for. Their parents and families are hurting and also may be in need of counseling.
Under the Code of Ethics and Standard Practices for Texas Educators the following may have been violated:
Enforceable Standards.
(1) Professional Ethical Conduct, Practices and Performance.
(G) Standard 1.7. The educator shall comply with state regulations, written local school board policies, and other state and federal laws.
(3) Ethical Conduct Toward Students.
(B) Standard 3.2. The educator shall not intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly treat a student or minor in a manner that adversely affects or endangers the learning, physical health, mental health, or safety of the student or minor.
Yesterday on Comanche County Breaking News a lady added the following to this discussion, "And in case all think if Gustine is stupid we all pretty much know where this or who this came from to stir up the trouble in the world! Yes Gustine is famous not just in Texas but nationally! You will get what is coming to you and you will not be happy! But you asked for it!"
The next comment was from a lady endorsing the above stating, "Well said...!"
Is that what our communities, our state and our nation have come to? Ostracizing people and threatening them for performing their parental duties and exercising their rights?
Thank you."
Group is public, so you should be able to find the 2-3 posts about this on the page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ErathCountyBreakingNews
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Oh, and GigaBuist, you and Gustine ISD need to buy a sign:
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Aw, jeeze. The reasonable assumption would be some kid (or other) just couldn't make it to the bathroom.
Like vomiting or (sometimes) peeing just can't be controlled.
Call the janitor, get it cleaned up, and forget it.
Honestly....
Terry
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Oh, now on the Comanche County Breaking News FB page, there has been harassment against a couple that was speaking out against the school on WFAA. Apparently, two of their ewes were shot and the man was fired from his job right after the news clip aired.
They're trying hard to keep up with Kermit, I guess.