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Title: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: MillCreek on June 12, 2015, 08:07:54 AM
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/northwest/questions-raised-about-race-of-spokane-naacp-head/

Apparently so, and claiming that 'we all came from the African continent' does not qualify you.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: makattak on June 12, 2015, 08:56:33 AM
These bigots, denying this transracial black woman her identity!
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: vaskidmark on June 12, 2015, 08:57:00 AM
This is America, where you can grow up to be anything you want to be.

stay safe.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on June 12, 2015, 08:59:28 AM
She's doubled down. The young man she claims as son? Is the oldest of the kids her folks adopted


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Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: cambeul41 on June 12, 2015, 09:03:44 AM
Can't she be "trans-Black"? Years ago, I had a biologically white student whose parents were killed in a car wreck. She was adopted by the parents of her best friend in the same class who was half Black. The genetically white sister behaved nearly ghetto, the mulatto (her term) sister was always very much a lady.

Maybe I am trans-Asian. Maybe my wife is trans-white. Maybe we are all (including whatever-his-name-is Jenner) whatever our DNA reveals.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 12, 2015, 10:34:49 AM
From the looks of her hair, I think she's mop-kin.

Personally, I'm trans-POTUS. Now somebody get Air Force One over here to pick me up, and get that pretender out of my office!
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Ron on June 12, 2015, 10:41:36 AM
Don't our cultural Marxists believe race is a social construct like gender?

Maybe their ability to believe that which is not, is limited   :laugh:
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 12, 2015, 12:26:57 PM
Don't our cultural Marxists believe race is a social construct like gender?



Um. Isn't it?
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: 230RN on June 12, 2015, 12:27:06 PM
Um.  Wait a minute.  She's black, white, Indian, Czech, Swedish and German?

Maybe it's time for a new Protected Class of citizens:  polka-dot.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: BobR on June 12, 2015, 12:36:37 PM
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bob
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Firethorn on June 12, 2015, 12:46:18 PM
bob

Assuming it's not a Poe's law violation (without a clear indicator; it's impossible to tell mockery of extremists from actual sincere extremism), I'd guess it's because he wants to feel 'special' by being part of the underclass.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: lee n. field on June 12, 2015, 12:49:32 PM
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/northwest/questions-raised-about-race-of-spokane-naacp-head/

Apparently so, and claiming that 'we all came from the African continent' does not qualify you.

Afrikaaners come from Africa.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: KD5NRH on June 12, 2015, 01:08:29 PM
I've probably mentioned the former coworker who was third generation South African.  It was always entertaining to watch the reactions to the pasty white blue eyed blond guy demanding full recognition as an African American.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: AJ Dual on June 12, 2015, 02:01:19 PM
LAWLZ...

Once again,  we have to leave the American MSM to see just how egregious the fakery is...


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3121061/Local-NAACP-leader-professor-African-studies-outed-WHITE-parents-convincing-community-black-years.html
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: K Frame on June 12, 2015, 02:18:37 PM
Been reading up on this... the whole thing is just strange as all hell...
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on June 12, 2015, 02:38:46 PM
Taking white guilt to a whole new level.

*expletive deleted*ing rediculous.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Viking on June 12, 2015, 02:47:17 PM
I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I'm *expletive deleted*ing retarded but I don't care, I'm beautiful. I'm having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me "Apache" and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can't accept me you're a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: AmbulanceDriver on June 12, 2015, 03:44:26 PM
Saw this on the news this morning....   Probably one of the funnier moments in TV news when the reporter asks her,

"Are you African-American?"

And you can see her just vapor lock....  *long* pause....

"...I.....I..  don't understand the question....."


There's actually a clip in AJ Dual's link  - the deer in the headlights look starts at about the 19 second mark
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Chuck Dye on June 12, 2015, 03:58:48 PM
...Aren't Always Colored People indeed!

Dad was born in Port Elizabeth, South Africa, and married an American.  Does that make me African American?
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Boomhauer on June 12, 2015, 04:03:44 PM
...Aren't Always Colored People indeed!

Dad was born in Port Elizabeth, South Africa, and married an American.  Does that make me African American?

An actual African-American, as opposed to most of the blacks here in the US who aren't.

Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: roo_ster on June 12, 2015, 04:22:56 PM
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bob

Parody...or not?
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Viking on June 12, 2015, 04:41:23 PM
Parody...or not?
Parody. He does it to troll SJWs, from what I've read.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on June 12, 2015, 05:02:30 PM
I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I'm *expletive deleted*ing retarded but I don't care, I'm beautiful. I'm having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me "Apache" and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can't accept me you're a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.

I fully support and embrace your identify. You are truly brave and shouldn't have to hide who you truly are.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: 230RN on June 12, 2015, 05:07:45 PM
I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I'm *expletive deleted*ing retarded but I don't care, I'm beautiful. I'm having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me "Apache" and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can't accept me you're a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.

Hey, Apache !  Do you have a heliphile group I could identifiy with?  I could be the U.S. Region coordinator, no?

I can get a small turbine I could strap to my back.

Frankly, I don't have a problem of anyone being an NAACP "head."  I just dislike any fraudulent means to bootstrap oneself into the position.  
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 12, 2015, 09:19:41 PM
I've probably mentioned the former coworker who was third generation South African.  It was always entertaining to watch the reactions to the pasty white blue eyed blond guy demanding full recognition as an African American.

I'd like to see that, myself.

Was he accepted as African-American? If not, on what basis could they have possibly refused to recognize what he clearly is?
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Boomhauer on June 12, 2015, 09:23:06 PM
Quote
I just dislike any fraudulent means to bootstrap oneself into the position. 

Remember we are talking about the NAACP here. Not exactly a reputable organization in any sense of the word. Race pimpin' ain't easy!


Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: zahc on June 12, 2015, 09:35:33 PM
At the company I used to work for, there were many diversity initiatives. The much celebrated and awarded Hispanic ringleader was white with red hair and freckles. He spoke English with no accent, but he probably was literally Hispanic insofar as he probably hailed from a Spanish-speaking country. I just personally could not with a straight face claim Hispanic in such a capacity with that phenotype. Then again, if I had the cred, maybe I would decide to troll them after all. It's too bad for me that "eastern European and Irish" isn't an ethnicity with clubs.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Doggy Daddy on June 12, 2015, 11:28:55 PM
I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I'm *expletive deleted*ing retarded but I don't care, I'm beautiful. I'm having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me "Apache" and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can't accept me you're a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.

So, you'll be running for president of the Rotary Club?
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Scout26 on June 13, 2015, 02:15:51 AM
She should have just quoted Navin R. Johnson,  "I was born a poor black child..."



It made it all the way to page 2 before someone quoted that.....You people are slipping...
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: 230RN on June 13, 2015, 12:19:21 PM
Buried deep in my memory is a recollection that when pressed some government official said that the only qualification needed to obtain Hispanic Protected Minority status was an Hispanic-sounding name.

I wondered if "Bosnolovichez" would have worked.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on June 13, 2015, 02:19:55 PM
Buried deep in my memory is a recollection that when pressed some government official said that the only qualification needed to obtain Hispanic Protected Minority status was an Hispanic-sounding name.

I wondered if "Bosnolovichez" would have worked.

Yup one of my dad's coworkers changed his name to Hernandez during the era when " Hispanic surname" mattered.


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Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: KD5NRH on June 13, 2015, 03:48:31 PM
Was he accepted as African-American? If not, on what basis could they have possibly refused to recognize what he clearly is?

I know at least one judge insisted that he be recognized as such.  Seems a potential employer mentioned that he wouldn't be considered because he lied about his race on the application, so he sued.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: birdman on June 13, 2015, 06:39:31 PM
So I was thinking, and obviously im not going to FB this, but I wanted to hash it out.

So, this woman is "not black" (at least no more than 1/64th based on history)
Our president is black (one parent was)
George Zimmerman is "not black" (but he is at least 1/16th, since great grandfather was)

So:
1. What fraction is required to be referred to as black?

2. Does anyone else think this is $@@/&:);ing insane?. Are we seriously going back to a modified one-drop rule?   How is that a good thing?

What ARE the rules?
Zimmerman is "white Hispanic" but not black.
I can't refer to Obama as white?  Because it seems, unless we are going back in time, that that is just as accurate as saying he's black, or calling Zimmerman white...or calling zimmerman Hispanic.

Or is it "whatever you identify as", in which case...doesn't that make orange lady black? (Though, legally, self-identification is how it actually works)
Or is it some nebulous "priviledge" thing...where you are only a minority if you are treated worse, by your own judgement, at some point, ever, by a "majority" person.

I really don't want to live on this planet anymore.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: birdman on June 13, 2015, 06:43:06 PM
I know at least one judge insisted that he be recognized as such.  Seems a potential employer mentioned that he wouldn't be considered because he lied about his race on the application, so he sued.

And won I would hope.  Precedent says you are whatever you claim to be on a form.  And it's only not legal, or actionable if you change it (at least without new knowledge)...and change it when you are not politically correct. (I.e. Are majority white, but claim black to get something).

Of course....that means that (and there is more than enough evidence) that a mixed race person can claim whatever they want...and provided they are the right appearance, our PC media won't care.

MLK must be rolling over in his grave...not only have we basically brought back one-drop, but we absolutely jidge people by the color of their skin...and people don't even feel bad about it.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on June 13, 2015, 08:59:25 PM
So I was thinking, and obviously im not going to FB this, but I wanted to hash it out.

So, this woman is "not black" (at least no more than 1/64th based on history)
Our president is black (one parent was)
George Zimmerman is "not black" (but he is at least 1/16th, since great grandfather was)

So:
1. What fraction is required to be referred to as black?

2. Does anyone else think this is $@@/&:);ing insane?. Are we seriously going back to a modified one-drop rule?   How is that a good thing?

What ARE the rules?
Zimmerman is "white Hispanic" but not black.
I can't refer to Obama as white?  Because it seems, unless we are going back in time, that that is just as accurate as saying he's black, or calling Zimmerman white...or calling zimmerman Hispanic.

Or is it "whatever you identify as", in which case...doesn't that make orange lady black? (Though, legally, self-identification is how it actually works)
Or is it some nebulous "priviledge" thing...where you are only a minority if you are treated worse, by your own judgement, at some point, ever, by a "majority" person.

I really don't want to live on this planet anymore.

Trying to make sense of something that is senseless is pretty much the fast road to crazy town.

Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Sergeant Bob on June 13, 2015, 09:06:51 PM
I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I'm *expletive deleted*ing retarded but I don't care, I'm beautiful. I'm having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me "Apache" and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can't accept me you're a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.

I guffawed!!!!!
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Sergeant Bob on June 13, 2015, 09:10:50 PM
The only reason the NALCP (National Association of Liberal Colored People) is supporting her is they don't want to look like idiots!
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: BobR on June 13, 2015, 10:21:23 PM
But the more they support her, the more idiotic they look. It's a wonderful spiral they have gotten themselves into. ;)

bob
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Chuck Dye on June 14, 2015, 03:12:39 AM
1. What fraction is required to be referred to as black?...Are we seriously going back to a modified one-drop rule?

I think the phrase you are looking for is "the slightest touch of the tar brush."

I discovered, nearly the hard way, that one must be careful of his audience or very sure of his escape route before pointing out to racist black golf fans that Tiger Woods is the worlds most famous Thai-American. =D (Couldn't find a "feets don't fail me now!" smiley...)
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: LadySmith on June 14, 2015, 08:03:43 AM
This is a twist on the whole "passing" thing.
For those who don't know, "passing" was when light-skinned Blacks used to pass for white back in the days of segregation.

But the more they support her, the more idiotic they look. It's a wonderful spiral they have gotten themselves into. ;)
bob

Ain't that the truth.  :lol:

MLK must be rolling over in his grave...not only have we basically brought back one-drop, but we absolutely judge people by the color of their skin...and people don't even feel bad about it.

And that there's another truth.  =(
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: French G. on June 14, 2015, 08:24:19 AM
So I was thinking, and obviously im not going to FB this, but I wanted to hash it out.

So, this woman is "not black" (at least no more than 1/64th based on history)
Our president is black (one parent was)
George Zimmerman is "not black" (but he is at least 1/16th, since great grandfather was)

So:
1. What fraction is required to be referred to as black?

2. Does anyone else think this is $@@/&:);ing insane?. Are we seriously going back to a modified one-drop rule?   How is that a good thing?

What ARE the rules?
Zimmerman is "white Hispanic" but not black.
I can't refer to Obama as white?  Because it seems, unless we are going back in time, that that is just as accurate as saying he's black, or calling Zimmerman white...or calling zimmerman Hispanic.

Or is it "whatever you identify as", in which case...doesn't that make orange lady black? (Though, legally, self-identification is how it actually works)
Or is it some nebulous "priviledge" thing...where you are only a minority if you are treated worse, by your own judgement, at some point, ever, by a "majority" person.

I really don't want to live on this planet anymore.

Pretty much all that. I think I'm going to be black and run the NAACP around here. Our family is about 90% sure we'd fail the one drop test, you don't stay in Virginia for 350 some years without something happening. Best guess is that someone passed into white society.

This is just hyphenated America run amok. If there was no preferential treatment for some people this lady would have gotten a real job by now.

I wish more people would answer the "what are you?" with "American." Any other answer is pointless except as small talk at a party about how fascinating your lineage is.

I recently realized that based on my maternal grandfather and paternal grandmother that I am 50% Scottish. Obviously I knew these things, especially since my grandfather was first generation American, but never really bothered to connect. So far no urges to go to highland games or buy William Wallace collector swords. If wherever you identify with coming from was so great then simple. Return there. If not, it is American.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: roo_ster on June 14, 2015, 09:50:37 AM
"Blackness Confirmed"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_IJCpZfrPA
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 14, 2015, 11:33:56 AM
Two weeks ago, we were celebrating a man for calling himself a woman. Why is everyone so surprised that a white person would call herself black?

"Blackness Confirmed"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_IJCpZfrPA

No, they're using a different method:

http://twitchy.com/2015/06/12/as-the-naacp-stands-behind-racheldolezal-blacktwitter-slams-with-hilarious-askrachel-questions/

My favorite:
Quote
Mary J Blige doesn't want hateration or holleration in where?
A) Her home
B) At work
C) In cars
D) This Dancery
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on June 14, 2015, 05:07:28 PM
Pretty much all that. I think I'm going to be black and run the NAACP around here. Our family is about 90% sure we'd fail the one drop test, you don't stay in Virginia for 350 some years without something happening. Best guess is that someone passed into white society.

This is just hyphenated America run amok. If there was no preferential treatment for some people this lady would have gotten a real job by now.

I wish more people would answer the "what are you?" with "American." Any other answer is pointless except as small talk at a party about how fascinating your lineage is.

I recently realized that based on my maternal grandfather and paternal grandmother that I am 50% Scottish. Obviously I knew these things, especially since my grandfather was first generation American, but never really bothered to connect. So far no urges to go to highland games or buy William Wallace collector swords. If wherever you identify with coming from was so great then simple. Return there. If not, it is American.

On my fathers side it's pretty straight forward Swede. But my mother's family? Ha! There is a reason I just say we're good old American mutts. The basic stock is English, but I'm pretty sure we've got links back to every European that flocked to American shores.

I got in a tiff with a Sociology professor by wanting to reclassify certain American subcultures as American ethnicities. I think that Appalachian certainly qualifies.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: MillCreek on June 14, 2015, 06:38:09 PM
There was going to be a Spokane chapter meeting tomorrow at which all would be explained. 

Ms. Dolezal cancelled the meeting though:  http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/06/14/spokane-naacp-president-ethnicity-questions/71215210/

Perhaps the lawyers and PR experts do not work on the weekend.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 14, 2015, 07:56:24 PM
She just needs more time to get her story straight. And to figure out a way to explain why she's been claiming her brother as her son.

As they used to say in da hood, "Good luck wit dat."
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on June 14, 2015, 08:23:44 PM
If someone figures out a way to spin outa this remember their name and hire them


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Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: RoadKingLarry on June 14, 2015, 08:59:03 PM
The only reason the NALCP (National Association of Liberal Colored People) is supporting her is they don't want to look like idiots!

Way, way too late.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: lee n. field on June 14, 2015, 09:36:37 PM
So I was thinking, and obviously im not going to FB this, but I wanted to hash it out.

So, this woman is "not black" (at least no more than 1/64th based on history)
Our president is black (one parent was)
George Zimmerman is "not black" (but he is at least 1/16th, since great grandfather was)

So:
1. What fraction is required to be referred to as black?

2. Does anyone else think this is $@@/&:);ing insane?. Are we seriously going back to a modified one-drop rule?   How is that a good thing?

Of course it is.  Since "race" is far more a social and political thing, than a biological one.

Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: MillCreek on June 15, 2015, 12:55:46 PM
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/06/15/414655045/rachel-dolezal-resigns-as-president-of-spokane-naacp?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20150615

So that is why this evening's chapter meeting was cancelled: Ms. Dolezal was buffing and polishing her resignation letter.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: SADShooter on June 15, 2015, 01:15:56 PM
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/06/15/414655045/rachel-dolezal-resigns-as-president-of-spokane-naacp?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20150615

So that is why this evening's chapter meeting was cancelled: Ms. Dolezal was buffing and polishing her resignation letter.

"While challenging the construct of race is at the core of evolving human consciousness..."

I actually agree somewhat with this observation, but not in the spirit she intended.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 15, 2015, 07:56:58 PM
http://twitchy.com/2015/06/15/former-black-naacp-chapter-president-rachel-dolezal-is-an-art-plagiarist-too/
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Angel Eyes on June 15, 2015, 08:05:34 PM
"Rachel Dolezal has a right to be black."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/15/opinions/rich-rachel-dolezal/index.html

Take that, you cisethnic oppressors.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 15, 2015, 08:33:07 PM
"While challenging the construct of race is at the core of evolving human consciousness..."

I actually agree somewhat with this observation, but not in the spirit she intended.

Is this an appropriate place to ask what is the difference between "race" and "ethnicity"? A lot of gummint forms seem to ask for both, and it never made sense to me.

My late wife was from South America, of a family directly descended from the Spanish conquistadores. She was proud of her native country and never hesitated to declare it. She was white and would become incensed if anyone suggested otherwise. But she didn't like or understand the term "hispanic." Her view was, sure she spoke Spanish -- that was her native language. But she wasn't from Spain, she had never been to Spain, and she certainly didn't feel or recognize any ethnic bonds to people from Cuba, Puerto Rico, or the Dominican Republic.

So WTF is "ethnicity"? If there's a catch-all category for people whose native language is Spanish, why isn't there a "Francic" classification for people whose native language is French? Why don't we use "Germanic" as an ethnicity for people whose native language (or whose parents' native language) is German? Why is "ethnicity" essentially "Hispanic" or "Other"?
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on June 15, 2015, 08:37:01 PM
Is this an appropriate place to ask what is the difference between "race" and "ethnicity"? A lot of gummint forms seem to ask for both, and it never made sense to me.

My late wife was from South America, of a family directly descended from the Spanish conquistadores. She was proud of her native country and never hesitated to declare it. She was white and would be come incensed if anyone suggested otherwise. But she didn't like or understand the term "hispanic." Her view was, sure she spoke Spanish -- that was her native language. But she wasn't from Spain, she had never been to Spain, and she certainly didn't feel or recognize any ethnic bonds people from Cuba, Puerto Rico, or the Dominican Republic.

So WTF is "ethnicity"? If there's a catch-all category for people whose native language is Spanish, why isn't there a "Francic" classification for people whose native language is French? Why don't we use "Germanic" as an ethnicity for people whose native language (or whose parents' native language) is German? Why is "ethnicity" essentially "Hispanic" or "Other"?

Race is the physical genetic compontant. A person is genetically of one or another race.

Ethnicity is the cultural characteristics.

Example. Caucasian is race. Scot is Caucasian and Irish is Caucasian. Scot and Irish are two different ethnicity.

It is getting to be a peeve of mind how much is being attributed as " racism" that isn't actually racism. IMHO, most of the social issues right now is a lot less racism and a lot more technically classism.
And of course, this whole debocal is a good example of peoples failure to distinguesh between race, culture and ethnicity (although, going back to an argument I had with a sociology professor, African American would not count as ethnicity, but as subculture)
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 16, 2015, 12:26:25 AM
Scot and Irish are two different ethnicity.

So then what's Scots-Irish?

Ethnicity is the cultural characteristics.

...

And of course, this whole debocal is a good example of peoples failure to distinguesh between race, culture and ethnicity (although, going back to an argument I had with a sociology professor, African American would not count as ethnicity, but as subculture)

If ethnicity is cultural characteristics, how can there be anything to distinguish between culture and ethnicity?

If my wife (and a majority of people from her country) didn't identify as "Hispanic," why does the U.S. government insist that she's Hispanic solely on the basis of her native language?

[Edit to add] And let's not forget the many people with "Hispanic" sounding last names who have been in the U.S. for several generations. They found their kids were being enrolled in classes taught primarily in Spanish even though the kids didn't speak Spanish -- based solely on the last name.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on June 16, 2015, 07:34:35 AM
The Scots Irish are a specific groups of Scots who immigrated to Ireland and then to America. Not an ethnicity.

The fact that the government gets ethnicity wrong doesn't change what it is.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: RoadKingLarry on June 16, 2015, 08:18:34 AM
When did we get all cis-sanitycentric?

I've decided I'm 6' tall. I was gonna be 6'5" but I'd have headroom issues on my yacht so I decided on 6'.
I expect everyone to acknowledge this by looking 5" shorter than they used to.
 
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Stand_watie on June 16, 2015, 08:57:08 AM
The Scots Irish are a specific groups of Scots who immigrated to Ireland and then to America. Not an ethnicity.

The fact that the government gets ethnicity wrong doesn't change what it is.

In particular, Scots immigrated to N. Ireland area that were protestant English supporters, also called "Ulster" Irish. Most Americans of "Irish" ancestry from the south are these. Further complicated by the fact that they were mixing it up across the Irish channel for 500 or so years before the "Ulster" immigration. Further complicated by the fact that despite being practically identical genetically, they hated each other for hundreds of years more passionately than the English and the French. Best tell between "Irish" and "Scots Irish" is Catholic vs. Protestant.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: RoadKingLarry on June 16, 2015, 09:54:53 AM
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi23.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb398%2FFLHRI-OK%2FJenners%2520cat.jpg&hash=080ce3ca38cdf52ff321b5ff44659c5248ff58c3) (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/FLHRI-OK/media/Jenners%20cat.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: 230RN on June 16, 2015, 11:25:35 AM
^  Tsk-tsk-tsk.  That was eeeevilll.
 :rofl:
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: SADShooter on June 16, 2015, 12:40:33 PM
Is this an appropriate place to ask what is the difference between "race" and "ethnicity"? A lot of gummint forms seem to ask for both, and it never made sense to me.



It is, because this was my point. Our governmental/societal rush to infinitesimally categorize people is in large part the origin of this madness. It will eventually be so that describing oneself by the litany of specific characteristic will be like the aliens' recitation of their family lineage from Enemy Mine. The more we are differentiated and compartmentalized the less able we will be to function as a civilization due to lack of common interests, mores, and goals.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: 230RN on June 16, 2015, 02:17:32 PM
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Chronicles+1&version=KJV

And then that no-account Terry was begat.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: charby on June 17, 2015, 09:46:21 AM
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Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: MillCreek on June 17, 2015, 10:12:04 AM
^^^ Jinkies!
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Scout26 on June 17, 2015, 02:29:49 PM
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Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Angel Eyes on June 17, 2015, 08:45:52 PM
At the risk of piling on, it appears that Ms. Dolezal is in a bit more trouble:

http://news.yahoo.com/former-naacp-leader-dolezal-found-violated-ethics-rules-181815292.html

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Investigators hired by the city of Spokane to probe a whistleblower complaint found Dolezal had publicly named citizens who made complaints against police officers, in violation of confidentiality rules, City Council President Ben Stuckart said.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 17, 2015, 10:41:04 PM
She is apparently also a movie star: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3127173/Rachel-Dolezal-SEX-TAPE-ex-husband-forced-perform-sex-acts-camera-against-claimed-court-papers.html

Right up there with Kim Kardashian and Paris Hilton.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: BobR on June 17, 2015, 11:13:31 PM
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The woman who resigned as president of the Spokane NAACP after her parents revealed she was white posing as black says there's no proof they are her mother and father.

In an interview with NBC News on Tuesday night (http://nbcnews.to/1LfaDYU ), Rachel Dolezal said she hasn't had a DNA test and there's no "biological proof" that Larry and Ruthanne Dolezal are her parents.

Ladies and gentlemen, this train has officially left the tracks!!!!

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcache.gawkerassets.com%2Fassets%2Fimages%2F4%2F2008%2F10%2FTrain_wreck_at_Montparnasse_1895.png&hash=3dd09a2f0414befeb2a00f1b871f649ce6df9e6f)

Being local we are getting tons of stuff about this every day.

bob
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Scout26 on June 17, 2015, 11:35:32 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/15/rachel-dolezal-art_n_7586972.html

Oh what the hell, I'll pile on.  Looks like she her art work isn't quite as original as she claimed.  Also there's some question as to whether she actually got the degree she claimed.

curiouser and curiouser....






Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: charby on June 17, 2015, 11:47:38 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/15/rachel-dolezal-art_n_7586972.html

Oh what the hell, I'll pile on.  Looks like she her art work isn't quite as original as she claimed.  Also there's some question as to whether she actually got the degree she claimed.

curiouser and curiouser....








google her brother, he is in deep doo doo also.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 18, 2015, 08:35:31 AM
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Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: castle key on June 18, 2015, 08:45:02 AM
She is in trouble for violating ethics rules while serving as a civilian police oversight board member. Since these violations have apparently been ongoing for some time, why did they become concerning just now!!!???
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: roo_ster on June 18, 2015, 09:37:30 AM
She is in trouble for violating ethics rules while serving as a civilian police oversight board member. Since these violations have apparently been ongoing for some time, why did they become concerning just now!!!???

Political buddies no longer have her black.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on June 18, 2015, 10:27:01 AM
Interesting that investigation finished on 6-5


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Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 18, 2015, 12:40:22 PM
google her brother, he is in deep doo doo also.

Done:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/06/16/rachel-dolezals-brother-author-joshua-dolezal-faces-trial-for-alleged-sexual-abuse-of-a-black-child/

So Ain't Jemima claims her brother molested a black kid, and the parents say she made it up, to get custody of her adopted brother.

What I find odd about the wording of the article (or at least the statements therein quoted) is that it seems to treat a white man's (alleged) attraction to black females as something perverted. As if it were not the same as having a preference for petite, blond women, or what-have-you.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: TechMan on June 18, 2015, 12:48:29 PM
Political buddies no longer have her black.

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi177.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw220%2FDavis_Andrews%2Fwhat-you-did-there-i-see-it.jpg&hash=04a48a19d7b408896e0b477f93bf604fa839afc7)
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 18, 2015, 12:59:48 PM
Quote
The woman who resigned as president of the Spokane NAACP after her parents revealed she was white posing as black says there's no proof they are her mother and father.

In an interview with NBC News on Tuesday night (http://nbcnews.to/1LfaDYU ), Rachel Dolezal said she hasn't had a DNA test and there's no "biological proof" that Larry and Ruthanne Dolezal are her parents.


And they better not check her birth certificate. That's racist.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: SADShooter on June 18, 2015, 01:03:12 PM
Wow. Disavowing one's parent to bolster the self-delusion. Amazing. ;/
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 18, 2015, 06:33:57 PM
Isn't the "prove they're my parents" thing way too late? Hasn't she tacitly admitted to being a white girl that "identifies as" black?
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on June 18, 2015, 06:39:20 PM
Isn't the "prove they're my parents" thing way too late? Hasn't she tacitly admitted to being a white girl that "identifies as" black?

You expect rational thought process from this woman?
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: cambeul41 on June 18, 2015, 07:33:42 PM
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And they better not check her birth certificate. That's racist.

Certificates are not proof. What does the DNA tell us?
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 18, 2015, 09:58:19 PM
You expect rational thought process from this woman?


No. I believe that was my point. She should have gone with, "What difference, at this point, does it make?"
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: LadySmith on June 19, 2015, 05:25:06 AM

She should have gone with, "What difference, at this point, does it make?"

Good one.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: charby on June 19, 2015, 09:14:10 AM
Certificates are not proof. What does the DNA tell us?

That we are all black.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 19, 2015, 11:33:04 AM
Moar:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/dolezal-ewu-white-author
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: KD5NRH on June 19, 2015, 12:13:39 PM
You know, after much consideration, I've decided it's time to come out.

I identify as the king of earth.

PM for an address at which you may pay tribute.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: vaskidmark on June 19, 2015, 01:21:16 PM
You know, after much consideration, I've decided it's time to come out.

I identify as the king of earth.

PM for an address at which you may pay tribute.

Get back in line where you belong, pretender!

stay safe.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: KD5NRH on June 19, 2015, 02:08:05 PM
Get back in line where you belong, pretender!

Mainstream media minions, crucify the oppressor!
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: 230RN on June 20, 2015, 12:21:40 AM
Moar:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/dolezal-ewu-white-author

From fistful's link:

Quote
EWU spokesman David Meany told Breitbart earlier this week that Dolezal was “no longer an employee of Eastern Washington University,” adding that — although her bio on the school’s website had had her listed as a “professor” — she was never a professor but an “adjunct instructor hired on a quarterly basis.”

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/dolezal-ewu-white-author

I ain't qualified to say so, but this stuff is starting to sound pathological.

Terry
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: LadySmith on June 20, 2015, 06:27:23 AM
That we are all black.
I can honestly say that I never considered the race of anyone here, and I wouldn't know unless it was brought up in a thread or somebody sent me a pic.
I can also say that I really don't care what race you all are. You accepted me here as what I am, and that's good enough for me.

However, the only exception to my not caring about what any of you are is Fistful.
I'm convinced he's a cat.
 =)
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: vaskidmark on June 20, 2015, 07:11:19 AM
From fistful's link:

I ain't qualified to say so, but this stuff is starting to sound pathological presidential.

Terry

At least she wasn't teaching Constitutional law.

stay safe.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Fly320s on June 20, 2015, 07:42:15 AM
I hear Rachel Dolezal will be working with Brian Williams at MSNBC.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: 230RN on June 20, 2015, 08:57:48 AM

Quote
Quote from: 230RN on June 19, 2015, 09:21:40 PM
From fistful's link:

I ain't qualified to say so, but this stuff is starting to sound pathological presidential.

Terry

At least she wasn't teaching Constitutional law.

stay safe.

Good one !  I stand corrected.  :rofl:

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 20, 2015, 12:12:01 PM
However, the only exception to my not caring about what any of you are is Fistful.
I'm convinced he's a cat.
 =)


Is that why you love me so much?
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: vaskidmark on June 20, 2015, 01:45:47 PM
If you thought it had reached the deep end, you were oh, so sadly mistaken.

http://dailysurge.com/2015/06/huffpo-blogger-describes-the-pain-of-realizing-im-white/

Quote
Dolezal is an example of the “immersion/emersion stage,” Michael notes, where “White people, having learned extensively about the realities of racism, and the ugly history of White supremacy in the U.S., ‘immerse’ themselves in trying to figure out how to be White in our society, and ‘emerge’ with a new relationship to Whiteness.”
“Only in the case of Dolezal,” she said, “her way of dealing with the pain of the reality of racism, was to deny her own Whiteness and to become Black.”
“She’s not alone,” Michael added, explaining that she experienced her own“Rachel Dolezal phase.”

And then the crazy breaks through the dam.  But it's like a train wreck - you have to watch it no matter how much you tell yourself not to.

stay safe.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on June 20, 2015, 02:55:09 PM
I can honestly say that I never considered the race of anyone here, and I wouldn't know unless it was brought up in a thread or somebody sent me a pic.
I can also say that I really don't care what race you all are. You accepted me here as what I am, and that's good enough for me.

However, the only exception to my not caring about what any of you are is Fistful.
I'm convinced he's a cat.
 =)


And cats every where are insulted.

 You may wish to appease your lords and masters with fancy feast and lock the doors.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 20, 2015, 04:36:27 PM
If you thought it had reached the deep end, you were oh, so sadly mistaken.

http://dailysurge.com/2015/06/huffpo-blogger-describes-the-pain-of-realizing-im-white/

And then the crazy breaks through the dam.  But it's like a train wreck - you have to watch it no matter how much you tell yourself not to.

stay safe.


I don't mind all the horrible, terrible pain of being a white dude. The privileges more than make up for it. Like how you can murder 9 black people in a church, and they don't even cuff you...

http://twitchy.com/2015/06/18/tweet-about-white-privilege-and-shooting-suspect-not-being-cuffed-hugely-popular-just-not-true/
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: RocketMan on June 20, 2015, 08:48:49 PM
I can honestly say that I never considered the race of anyone here, and I wouldn't know unless it was brought up in a thread or somebody sent me a pic.
I can also say that I really don't care what race you all are. You accepted me here as what I am, and that's good enough for me.

However, the only exception to my not caring about what any of you are is Fistful.
I'm convinced he's a cat. =)

Now I'm starting to worry about you, LadySmith, given your affinity for cats.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: MillCreek on February 26, 2017, 12:11:44 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/25/rachel-dolezal-not-going-stoop-apologise-grovel

Things have not gone well for Ms. Dolezal but she will not grovel.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: BobR on February 26, 2017, 02:00:50 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/25/rachel-dolezal-not-going-stoop-apologise-grovel

Things have not gone well for Ms. Dolezal but she will not grovel.

She won't do porn either, hey, wasn't that what Octomom said one time? ;)

At least she is still black, she can cling to that while waiting for her handouts from the man.

bob
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 26, 2017, 06:12:53 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/25/rachel-dolezal-not-going-stoop-apologise-grovel

Things have not gone well for Ms. Dolezal but she will not grovel.


I had to stop at "respected black rights activist." As if that is still a thing.  :rofl:

I did read earlier, on Twitchy, that she whined about white people calling her a "race traitor." moar  :rofl:  Your side did this, snowflake. People like you decided to make white people conscious of their "whiteness," and pre-judge us all as automatically racist (white privilege theory). You don't get to complain that some whites are getting just as tribal as your black friends are. You built this. You made that happen.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 26, 2017, 06:40:08 PM
I summoned the fortitude to actually read some of that article. The words "hot mess" are not strong enough. It's grimly amusing that people like Thomas Sowell are accused of self-loathing, but this woman truly is.

All that being said, she's every bit as African as Bradley Manning is a chick.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: zahc on February 26, 2017, 07:51:58 PM
I'm sort of on her side. She is basically a race troll, and we need more of those. I mean, why did she get fired and expelled once they found out she was white? How does that compute? Was she not doing a good job? Did they only hire her because she was black? How did they determine she's not black enough for them? Did she fail the blood test, or secret black-person handshake? What is this, 1700s Virginia or 1940s Germany, where we have to prove our geneology so we know where we fit in society?
 
If people can up and identify as different genders, and we are supposed to accept that, then yeah,100℅, I support her right to identify as black. The biological determiners of gender are far more objectively determining than the biological bases of race. I don't see how making race barriers more fluid can ever be a bad thing unless you have a vested interest in maintaining them for some favoritism reasons. Or you know, racism reason

Besides, Mariah Carey gets away with claiming to be black.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Scout26 on February 26, 2017, 10:17:56 PM
To riff off what zahc said.   Tucker Carlson might be the only reason to have cable TV. 


Tucker Carlson Destroys Liberal On Transgender Bathroom And Pick Your Own Gender Issues Fox News:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxRve2V6QS0
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: RocketMan on February 27, 2017, 12:06:26 AM
And we have to live in the world these idiots are busily creating.  It's utter madness.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 27, 2017, 12:38:57 AM
I'm sort of on her side. She is basically a race troll, and we need more of those. I mean, why did she get fired and expelled once they found out she was white? How does that compute? Was she not doing a good job? Did they only hire her because she was black? How did they determine she's not black enough for them? Did she fail the blood test, or secret black-person handshake? What is this, 1700s Virginia or 1940s Germany, where we have to prove our geneology so we know where we fit in society?
 

The problem, at least according to multiple sources, is that she lied about her circumstances. If she had said all along that her heritage is as pure white as the wind-driven snow, but that she thinks she's black, you might be on to something. There is also the matter of her basically living in blackface.


Quote
If people can up and identify as different genders, and we are supposed to accept that, then yeah,100℅, I support her right to identify as black. The biological determiners of gender are far more objectively determining than the biological bases of race.

100%  This is why I love the reaction Dolezal has gotten. It absolutely makes fools of the left that they deny gender even exists, but make the arbitrary concept of "race" into something sacrosanct.  :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Hawkmoon on February 27, 2017, 09:13:58 AM
I self-identify as 6'-4" tall, 225 pounds, 35 years old and in top physical condition with a record of heroic military service. I'm being discriminated against because my birth certificate makes me 73 years old and the VA staff insist that I'm only 6'-0" tall, and the .gov has been arbitrarily refusing to award me my silver star, bronze star with oak leaf cluster, Congressional Medal of Honor, and two Legions of Merit.

Where's my lawyer?
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 27, 2017, 12:17:48 PM
I self-identify as 6'-4" tall, 225 pounds, 35 years old and in top physical condition with a record of heroic military service. I'm being discriminated against because my birth certificate makes me 73 years old and the VA staff insist that I'm only 6'-0" tall, and the .gov has been arbitrarily refusing to award me my silver star, bronze star with oak leaf cluster, Congressional Medal of Honor, and two Legions of Merit.

Where's my lawyer?


I self-identify as a lawyer, and I only charge $50/hour. How may I help you today?
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: K Frame on February 27, 2017, 12:39:17 PM
I identify as a parakeet and demand unlimited, tax-payer provided seed bells.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: KD5NRH on February 27, 2017, 12:51:33 PM
I self-identify as a lawyer, and I only charge $50/hour. How may I help you today?

I self identify as a judge,[1] and find you in contempt of court.  Submit full financial documentation for fine determination.

[1] And not some pansy judge like Chris.  Think more along the lines of Judge Dredd.  Be prepared to pay quickly and cheerfully.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 27, 2017, 01:10:01 PM
I self identify as a judge,[1] and find you in contempt of court.  Submit full financial documentation for fine determination.


I identify as a sovereign citizen inhabiting international waters. With your mom.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: RocketMan on February 28, 2017, 01:15:07 AM
I self-identify as Dictator of these United States.  Heads are going to roll, I tell you.  Heads are going to roll.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Ben on March 01, 2017, 05:55:06 PM
Looks like she has legally changed he name. I don't think it's going to help.

http://twitchy.com/sd-3133/2017/03/01/oh-no-she-diint-rachel-dolezal-has-reportedly-changed-her-name-to-this/
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 01, 2017, 09:32:34 PM
Looks like she has legally changed he name. I don't think it's going to help.

Not when it's in the public domain. :rofl:  The Guardian article mentioned that she had changed her name, but didn't say what it was.

Ya know, I'd love for her to be able to get a real job, and not go through life as a homeless pariah. But until she submits to reality, maybe this is what she needs. Get a clue, cracker!


Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: sumpnz on March 01, 2017, 09:47:35 PM
Not when it's in the public domain. :rofl:  The Guardian article mentioned that she had changed her name, but didn't say what it was.

Ya know, I'd love for her to be able to get a real job, and not go through life as a homeless pariah. But until she submits to reality, maybe this is what she needs. Get a clue, cracker!




Hey - quote button works again!

Anyway, I think the best thing she could possible do is lose the bronzer, let her natural hair grow out, change her name to some like Mary Smith, and move somewhere that she won't be recognized instantly.  Then keep her freaking mouth shut for the next 20 years about her past a "black" person.  By then, if someone does a "where is she now" special, nobody will give a damn anymore.

Sort of like what Zimmerman should have done after his acquittal. 
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 01, 2017, 09:50:08 PM
Hey - quote button works again!

Anyway, I think the best thing she could possible do is lose the bronzer, let her natural hair grow out, change her name to some like Mary Smith, and move somewhere that she won't be recognized instantly.  Then keep her freaking mouth shut for the next 20 years about her past a "black" person.  By then, if someone does a "where is she now" special, nobody will give a damn anymore.

Sort of like what Zimmerman should have done after his acquittal. 


Hmmmm...I'm thinking sitcom.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: wmenorr67 on March 02, 2017, 08:26:42 AM
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Rachel Dolezal, the former head of Spokane, Washington’s NAACP chapter who claimed to be black before her parents ‘outed’ her as white, officially changed her name to Nkechi Amare Diallo in a Washington court in October, legal documents obtained by DailyMail.com show.

Nkechi, short for Nkechinyere, is a name that originates from the Igbo language of Nigeria and means ‘what god has given’ or ‘gift of god.’

Diallo, meaning ‘bold,’ is a last name of Fula origin. The Fula people are a Muslim ethnic group thought to have roots in the Middle East and North Africa, who are now widely dispersed across West Africa.

Had money to do this but yet is unemployed  :facepalm:

What some people will do to try and stay relevant.

Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: MillCreek on March 02, 2017, 01:32:40 PM
Here in Washington state, the typical court costs for a name change is $ 150-200, depending on the specific county district court fees, and how many certified copies of the name change order you need.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 02, 2017, 03:17:25 PM
Here in Washington state, the typical court costs for a name change is $ 150-200, depending on the specific county district court fees, and how many certified copies of the name change order you need.


How interesting that you know that.  [tinfoil]


As she is a former professional SJW, it wouldn't surprise me if she knew exactly who is offering free legal aid.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: KD5NRH on March 02, 2017, 03:21:23 PM
Here in Washington state, the typical court costs for a name change is $ 150-200, depending on the specific county district court fees, and how many certified copies of the name change order you need.

3-4 weeks worth of decent groceries if you know how to buy 'em.  6-8 weeks if you don't mind a lot of beans and rice.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: MillCreek on March 02, 2017, 03:22:00 PM

How interesting that you know that.  [tinfoil]


I was a nobody until I changed my name to Lance Steel.  Now, I have a high-paying job and binders of women!
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: makattak on March 02, 2017, 03:43:49 PM
I was a nobody until I changed my name to Lance Steel.  Now, I have a high-paying job and binders of women!

I went with Max Power.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Ben on March 02, 2017, 04:06:20 PM
Napoleon Hammer.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: MillCreek on March 04, 2017, 03:49:41 PM
http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2017/03/03/518184030/why-rachel-dolezal-can-never-be-black?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170304

A black woman says that Ms. Dolezal can never be a black woman.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 04, 2017, 07:18:34 PM
Does anyone else wonder if the talk of being on public assistance is calculated to provoke racist jokes about how that finally makes her authentically black? Because I wonder that.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 04, 2017, 07:52:41 PM
I think it's all geared at promoting her book. She's been out of the news for months. All of a sudden we learn that she's broke, and that she changed her name, and ... oh, what a coincidence ... her new book is due out very soon.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: MillCreek on March 04, 2017, 08:03:28 PM
^^^+1
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Ben on March 04, 2017, 08:05:03 PM
How many people are gonna buy her book? Enough to give her a 1-2 month reprieve from going to porn?
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: MillCreek on March 04, 2017, 08:08:02 PM
Look for it in a bookstore near you: In Full Color.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: AJ Dual on March 04, 2017, 08:33:50 PM
I think it's all geared at promoting her book. She's been out of the news for months. All of a sudden we learn that she's broke, and that she changed her name, and ... oh, what a coincidence ... her new book is due out very soon.

I could be snarky and say your target audience has to be able to read to sell your book... and because of that she should really consider the porn offers, but that would be insensitive and is likely to be construed as racist, so I won't say that.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 04, 2017, 09:13:53 PM
Look for it in a bookstore near you: In Full Color.

Black is not a color. Technically, black is the total absence of any color.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 04, 2017, 09:33:28 PM
I could be snarky and say your target audience has to be able to read to sell your book... and because of that she should really consider the porn offers, but that would be insensitive and is likely to be construed as racist, so I won't say that.


Racist against whom? Other crackeresses who think they're black?

Hmmm. "Crackeresses"? I guess "saltines" sounds better.



(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fverbalslaps.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F06%2F165261_600.jpg&hash=189a9e14cbf0290edcaa16d293d00ca9a32517c0)
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Viking on March 05, 2017, 02:32:44 AM
How many people are gonna buy her book? Enough to give her a 1-2 month reprieve from going to porn?
The funny thing is that SJWs rarely support other SJWs by buying the crap they peddle, whether it is books, games, comic or movies. There's a reason why they are infiltrating media to try to get their shitty ideas inserted into books, games, comics or movies. Which then goes to utter *expletive deleted*it because as mentioned, SJWs don't buy h
them, and soon enough, normal people quit buying them too after realizing that the Cultural Marxism is there to stay. Marvel recently had to cancel several comic titles because of poor sales. To thr surprise of no one watching, the titles were the ones with thr worst SJW content.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: MillCreek on March 05, 2017, 10:37:20 AM
https://www.amazon.com/Full-Color-Finding-Place-Black/dp/194464816X

Just in case you want to add it to your cart now and beat the rush.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Ben on March 05, 2017, 10:40:16 AM
https://www.amazon.com/Full-Color-Finding-Place-Black/dp/194464816X

Just in case you want to add it to your cart now and beat the rush.

I think Amazon mistakenly added a "1" to the price.

I can't wait to read the Amazon reviews.  =D
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 05, 2017, 10:42:00 AM
https://www.amazon.com/Full-Color-Finding-Place-Black/dp/194464816X

Just in case you want to add it to your cart now and beat the rush.

Quote
In June 2015, the media “outed” Rachel Doležal as a white woman who had knowingly been “passing” as Black. When asked if she were African American during an interview about the hate crimes directed at her and her family, she hesitated before ending the interview and walking away. Some interpreted her reluctance to respond and hasty departure as dishonesty, while others assumed she lacked a reasonable explanation for the almost unprecedented way she identified herself.

Dishonesty? She's a white woman who was portraying herself as black, and who had claimed to have a black father. So, yes on dishonesty.

Still waiting on the reasonable explanation. Nothing she has said so far is at all reasonable.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: AmbulanceDriver on March 05, 2017, 11:58:53 AM
How many people are gonna buy her book? Enough to give her a 1-2 month reprieve from going to porn?

So if she plays with herself, is that an interracial scene?

(I'm pulling a Terry and not signing this so nobody knows who wrote it)
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: MillCreek on March 05, 2017, 06:14:35 PM
I think Amazon mistakenly added a "1" to the price.

I can't wait to read the Amazon reviews.  =D

The exact reason that I put the link here, it will make it easy for us to find the reviews in a few months.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 11, 2017, 12:17:53 AM
There's already a book (of sorts) about her, and the reviews are not stellar.

https://www.amazon.com/Choose-Black-Unauthorized-Biography-Dolezal/dp/151475472X/ref=s9_simh_gw_g14_i3_r?_encoding=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_r=DKT8VFHN7GR93R6VRVZA&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=f719e185-4825-42a4-9507-9df1a19229d6&pf_rd_i=desktop
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 28, 2017, 04:41:27 PM
Here we go. The book was officially released today (I think it may have already been out in the Kindle version). Anyway, there are some reviews now. This should be fun.

https://www.amazon.com/Full-Color-Finding-Place-Black/dp/194464816X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1490733538&sr=8-1&keywords=rachel+dolezal+in+full+color


Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: MillCreek on March 28, 2017, 05:09:48 PM
Oooh, apparently comparing doing 'childhood chores' to 'chattel slavery' such that she had the same experience as black slaves is not going over well.

PS: the ghostwriter is 'Storms Reback', which I will slightly modify and adopt as my new porn name: Storms Bareback.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Ben on March 28, 2017, 05:27:54 PM
Oooh, apparently comparing doing 'childhood chores' to 'chattel slavery' such that she had the same experience as black slaves is not going over well.

Sadly, that line of thinking is getting mainstreamed. It's evil and patriarchal and whatnot to make kids do dishes and take out the trash. They're not your little slaves! It is however, acceptable to make your kids go to protests with you and hold up "$15 living wage!" signs for eight hours, because Rosita the undocumented hired help is back home doing dishes and taking out the trash for $11/hr.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 28, 2017, 05:33:18 PM
Here we go. The book was officially released today (I think it may have already been out in the Kindle version). Anyway, there are some reviews now. This should be fun.

https://www.amazon.com/Full-Color-Finding-Place-Black/dp/194464816X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1490733538&sr=8-1&keywords=rachel+dolezal+in+full+color

Review:

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"Rachel Dolezal’s early life memoir is not simply a narrative of radical activism. . . . It serves to critique the cultural straightjacket of traditionalist white ‘Protestant work ethic’ society. At this moment of alt-right reactionism, it punctures the fake nostalgia for an imagined pre-multiculturalism era of supposed purity and authenticity.”
—Gavin Lewis, Black British writer and academic

Can anyone please tell me what he said?

Quote
I haven't really read the book, but I truly feel that I AM someone who has read the book. I've always connected to the experience of people who comment on articles without reading them and the wider diaspora of people who so desperately want to belong to something that they are actually insulting to the people who do and are the people they wish to become.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Angel Eyes on March 28, 2017, 08:40:19 PM
Apparently Rachel/Nkechi and her African-American husband divorced because she was "too black" for him:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/rachel-dolezal-says-she-little-202927239.html

I tried to read the whole thing, but the self-delusion was too thick.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: MechAg94 on March 29, 2017, 09:23:58 AM
Here we go. The book was officially released today (I think it may have already been out in the Kindle version). Anyway, there are some reviews now. This should be fun.

https://www.amazon.com/Full-Color-Finding-Place-Black/dp/194464816X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1490733538&sr=8-1&keywords=rachel+dolezal+in+full+color



Don't forget to clear that out of your browsing history afterward.  It might affect those automatic recommendations. 
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: MechAg94 on March 29, 2017, 09:24:34 AM
Oooh, apparently comparing doing 'childhood chores' to 'chattel slavery' such that she had the same experience as black slaves is not going over well.

PS: the ghostwriter is 'Storms Reback', which I will slightly modify and adopt as my new porn name: Storms Bareback.
Until you find out they expect you to be in the wrong kind of porn movies. 
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: sumpnz on March 29, 2017, 09:56:01 AM
Until you find out they expect you to be in the wrong kind of porn movies. 

Why are you so sex negative?
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: BobR on April 02, 2017, 12:33:50 AM
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Race is a social construct

Yep, her cheese has slid off the cracker!! 

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/video/dolezals-journey-to-trans-blackness/vi-BBz9ZAc


bob
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Hawkmoon on April 02, 2017, 03:31:14 AM
"Harmonizing the outer appearance with the inner feelings ..."

Ummm ... what about harmonizing the inner feelings with the outer reality? Many years ago I knew a guy who was a pretty high-powered marketing pro, who happened to have studied more than a little Zen Buddhism. Something he often repeated stuck with me: "What is, is. It is our resistance to what is that causes our unhappiness." Ms. Dolezal does not appear to have learned simple acceptance of the fact that she is white.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Ben on April 14, 2017, 09:15:48 AM
Moving on to South Africa.

https://heatst.com/culture-wars/anger-as-troll-rachel-dolezal-declares-shes-on-historic-mission-to-fix-south-africas-racial-divide/
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Fly320s on April 14, 2017, 09:20:04 AM
Moving on to South Africa.

https://heatst.com/culture-wars/anger-as-troll-rachel-dolezal-declares-shes-on-historic-mission-to-fix-south-africas-racial-divide/

Well, sure, she did such a great job here.  I hope her flight back is on an overbooked UAL flight.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Ben on April 14, 2017, 09:21:10 AM
Well, sure, she did such a great job here.  I hope her flight back is on an overbooked UAL flight.

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 14, 2017, 09:40:32 AM
Moving on to South Africa.

https://heatst.com/culture-wars/anger-as-troll-rachel-dolezal-declares-shes-on-historic-mission-to-fix-south-africas-racial-divide/


Oh good grief. :facepalm:


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Despite the backlash, the event’s organizers defended their choice of Dolezal, telling the BBC she was “evidence of the myth of race.”

That's even good-griefy-er. Dolezal is racism's poster child. She lives her life, as much as anyone ever has, as if being white and being black have an importance that's more than skin-deep. As if being black is more a matter of character than characteristics. Why else, aside from outright dishonesty, would she try to live as if she's black inside (whatever that means), when her outside is white?

But that outright dishonesty explanation - hmmmm...
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Hawkmoon on April 14, 2017, 06:20:03 PM
Grammar Nazi, front and center ... POST!

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Dolezal, who recently changed her name to Nkechi Amare Diallo, will speak on April 19 at the first inaugural meeting of a group called the Quest for Non Racial South African Society Dialogue.

Would we be as interested if it was the second inaugural meeting?
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: MechAg94 on April 14, 2017, 08:12:08 PM
I was trying to figure out if she was invited or paid someone, but she is scheduled to speak.  So I wonder if that group over there is small and wanted publicity. 
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: MillCreek on April 19, 2017, 01:10:47 PM
http://www.thestranger.com/features/2017/04/19/25082450/the-heart-of-whiteness-ijeoma-oluo-interviews-rachel-dolezal-the-white-woman-who-identifies-as-black

Ms. Diallo is interviewed and does not impress the interviewer.  I also did a quick check of her most recent reviews of her book on Amazon, and she is still not impressing many people there, either.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: KD5NRH on April 19, 2017, 01:27:54 PM
Grammar Nazi, front and center ... POST!

Would we be as interested if it was the second inaugural meeting?

Maybe the other meetings also identify as inaugural?
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Scout26 on April 25, 2017, 08:12:41 PM
Spoiler alert:  It's didn't go well...

http://www.dailywire.com/news/15673/heres-what-happened-when-rachel-dolezal-told-black-james-barrett?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=102516-podcast&utm_campaign=beingconservative#exit-modal
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 25, 2017, 09:58:36 PM
Spoiler alert:  It's didn't go well...

http://www.dailywire.com/news/15673/heres-what-happened-when-rachel-dolezal-told-black-james-barrett?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=102516-podcast&utm_campaign=beingconservative#exit-modal


That was beautiful.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Andiron on April 25, 2017, 10:15:48 PM

That was beautiful.

It was.

"

"Only a white person could claim blackness and tour the world talking to blacks about blackness," said one attendee of Dolezal's talk."

Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Ben on April 25, 2017, 11:28:07 PM
Spoiler alert:  It's didn't go well...

http://www.dailywire.com/news/15673/heres-what-happened-when-rachel-dolezal-told-black-james-barrett?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=102516-podcast&utm_campaign=beingconservative#exit-modal

I don't want to wish harm on someone who has (as I believe she does) a psychological issue. However I'm just not going to be surprised if sans serious help, this woman is a suicide statistic sometime in the next few years.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: RoadKingLarry on April 26, 2017, 12:18:52 AM
I don't want to wish harm on someone who has (as I believe she does) a psychological issue. However I'm just not going to be surprised if sans serious help, this woman is a suicide statistic sometime in the next few years.

And by "psychological issue" I have to assume you mean batshit crazy.
Title: Re: Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 26, 2017, 01:30:29 AM
And by "psychological issue" I have to assume you mean batshit crazy.


I thought it was called "SJW."