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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: 41magsnub on September 25, 2015, 09:46:15 AM
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http://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/25/boehner-resigning-from-congress.html (http://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/25/boehner-resigning-from-congress.html)
Supposedly he announced he is resigning from Congress at the end of October.
Hopefully somebody with some backbone takes over.
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http://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/25/boehner-resigning-from-congress.html (http://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/25/boehner-resigning-from-congress.html)
He announced he is resigning from Congress at the end of October.
Hopefully somebody with some backbone takes over.
Magic 8-ball says:
Outlook not so good.
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Boehner was such an ineffective, piss-poor leader I suspect he was on-board with the Dem agenda, soup to nuts.
Let us now see if we can leverage McConnell out of his shell as Senate Majority Leader.
Secret suspicion:
Is there another remake of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory in the works?
Magic 8-ball says:
Outlook not so good.
Indeed, unless someone outside the cadre of GOP House leadership is selected.
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Woke up to the alert on my phone. There are certainly happier things to wake up to, but it's a short list.
I'll be very interested in the details as they come out. Supposedly it was news to literally EVERYONE. McCarthy and a few others were told less than five minutes before everyone else.
I'm betting on- A) That's bullshit, and there was enough private discontent he is being forced out "cleanly", B) Some massive scandal involved, C) Some sort of serious illness, likely with a bad prognosis. This is the only one of the three I'd feel sorry for him over. Regardless of the reason I found him to be an utterly weak, two faced, and worthless. It'll be interesting to see who replaces him.
But hey, news to report on this can wait. The POPE IS TALKING!
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I hate to be the Debbie Downer, but I'm not all that excited, because who do we think is going to replace him? There is still a majority of career, establishment Republicans in the Congress. They are going to fight any even slightly libertarian or tea party oriented small government candidate.
Until we see a big change in the makeup of Congress, the party leaders will always be "establishment approved" people. Whether it's an establishment Democrat for the EBT and Obamaphone crowd, or an establishment Republican for the corporate favors and pork crowd.
It's not even really fully the politicians' fault. It's more the demographics of the country skewed so far to the "my hand is out, put something in it" population that votes for these people -- on both sides of the aisle.
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If whoever replaces him has a set of balls, that alone would be a major improvement.
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Well you don't have to be a member of congress to be speaker of the house.
So I guess if you have any political pull you can toss it at them.
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Well you don't have to be a member of congress to be speaker of the house.
So I guess if you have any political pull you can toss it at them.
On that note: if only we had someone with experience as Speaker who actually had a backbone to follow through on promises...
(No, it isn't going to happen, but we've had ONE good speaker in my lifetime.)
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On that note: if only we had someone with experience as Speaker who actually had a backbone to follow through on promises...
(No, it isn't going to happen, but we've had ONE good speaker in my lifetime.)
[popcorn]
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I hate to be the Debbie Downer, but I'm not all that excited, because who do we think is going to replace him? . . .
Well, I don't think Lindsey Graham or John McCain will be leaving their Senate jobs to try for House Speaker . . . but there are still a good number of bad candidates for the post.
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So how soon will Ohio hold an election to replace him, Chris, and who would be the front runner(s)?
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Don't jump up and down too much yet. He has vowed to pass a "Clean" continuing resolution to avoid a .gov shutdown....
So he will commit one final sellout before riding out to life of speaking engagements and book advances...
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
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So how soon will Ohio hold an election to replace him, Chris, and who would be the front runner(s)?
We have a general election coming up November 3rd, hence the leaving at the end of October. In the last primary (2014) he faced a couple of competitors (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/27/john-boehner-primary_n_5222234.html)
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Bob Michel: Tanned(1), Rested, and Ready.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_H._Michel
At age 92, he is more spry than Reagan is. [Given Reagan is dead & buried]
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(1) But not that very unsettling orange-tan we have been familiar with these last few years, just a regular tan like many humans can manage.
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I hate to be the Debbie Downer, but I'm not all that excited, because who do we think is going to replace him? There is still a majority of career, establishment Republicans in the Congress. They are going to fight any even slightly libertarian or tea party oriented small government candidate.
Until we see a big change in the makeup of Congress, the party leaders will always be "establishment approved" people. Whether it's an establishment Democrat for the EBT and Obamaphone crowd, or an establishment Republican for the corporate favors and pork crowd.
It's not even really fully the politicians' fault. It's more the demographics of the country skewed so far to the "my hand is out, put something in it" population that votes for these people -- on both sides of the aisle.
Our local rep, Mo Brooks, appeared on two local radio shows this morning, pointing out the next two reps in line for Boehner's position are even more liberal than Boehner.
Get your airsickness bags prepped; you may need them. >:D
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If whoever replaces him has a set of balls, that alone would be a major improvement.
Just whose would they have? And will they be pickled in a jar or all dried out and carried in a silk bag?
Lest we forget, the Speaker represents pretty much the middle ground of the majority party. That being said, looking over the field of possible replacements leaves me with an abiding sense of [barf].
stay safe.
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Maybe he will sell us out on amnesty as a parting gift.
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And there was much rejoicing...
Boehner going away is in the same catagory as Big O leaving office. I'm just happy he's gone.
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The R establishment claims to fear they'll get the blame for a government shutdown. If the house and the senate pass a bill, any bill, that ends PP or secures our border and Obama vetoes it, HE gets the blame. The fact that the RINOs seem not to understand this is not a case of ignorance. It's a case of fraud.
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Bush 41 holds the presidency, a Dem Congress passes a funding plan he can't abide, vetoes it. Pubbies get blamed. Dear Leader holds the presidency, Pubbie Congress passes a funding plan he can't abide, vetoes it. Pubbies get the blame.
Any questions? Good. Carry on...
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Bush 41 holds the presidency, a Dem Congress passes a funding plan he can't abide, vetoes it. Pubbies get blamed. Dear Leader holds the presidency, Pubbie Congress passes a funding plan he can't abide, vetoes it. Pubbies get the blame.
Any questions? Good. Carry on...
Correct, with the caveat that it depends on who Joe Public listens to. If he swallows Big Media talking points, he blames the Right. If he listens to right media, he may blame the Left.
I'd be a little more happy with a GOP that was eager to accept blame credit for govt. "shut-downs," rather than treat it like it was somehow a bad thing.
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The pubbies need to suck it up and take the blame when necessary. They're too dang stuck on wanting to be liked by folks that will never like them anyway, and then it's cave city.
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The pubbies need to suck it up and take the blame when necessary. They're too dang stuck on wanting to be liked by folks that will never like them anyway, and then it's cave city.
Butbutbut if we give the illegals the vote they will vote for us and not the Democrats who are promising them endless handouts!
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Ran into one of my congressmen* at Northern Illinois Hunting and Fishing Days on Sunday, and we discussed this while his kids were shooting BB guns.
His take was that although he would vote for Trey Gowdy in an instant, he thinks that McCarty will get it. I told I was surprised that my other Congressman Peter Roskam wasn't in the leadership anymore and his reply was that he wasn't re-elected to that spot because he wasn't liked by the establishment.
Yes, both are closet Tea-Partiers at least in outlook and votes, so they are not very much liked by the establishment.
* Yes, I have two. Peter Roskam and Randall Hultgren. At they both think I'm in their district. For many years the line dividing the districts was two streets east of mine. After the latest redraw it's now three streets west of me. Both came out and spoke to the membership when I was president of ASC, and I've seen them both many times at other political functions I've attended along with visiting their offices when they were in Springfield. So they both think I'm in their district. I've done nothing to dissuade that belief.
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* Yes, I have two. Peter Roskam and Randall Hultgren. At they both think I'm in their district. For many years the line dividing the districts was two streets east of mine. After the latest redraw it's now three streets west of me. Both came out and spoke to the membership when I was president of ASC, and I've seen them both many times at other political functions I've attended along with visiting their offices when they were in Springfield. So they both think I'm in their district. I've done nothing to dissuade that belief.
Nothing wrong with that.
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In the spirit of dumb and dumber, the "likeliest choice" to replace Boehner said this stupid thing:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/30/dems-accuse-gop-leader-mccarthy-admitting-benghazi-panel-is-political/?intcmp=hpbt2
If he can't even control the simplest of messages, that the committee is about getting to the bottom of the deaths of Americans, he needs to go away now.
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Well, McCarthy is out:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/08/mccarthy-withdraws/?intcmp=hpbt1
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Well, McCarthy is out:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/08/mccarthy-withdraws/?intcmp=hpbt1
All kinds of rumors abound as for the reason.
I'll accept his statement that he realized he was not the one who could unite the party and think better of him for stepping aside.
Boehner, of course, immediately adjourned the meeting rather than allowing the Republicans to discuss this and decide on a course of action before he could choose who he wants instead to replace him. Gee, I wonder why people have such a problem with him?
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Long shot... but I'd LOVE to see Amash as Speaker. Apparently Gowdy wants nothing to do with the job.
If you recall, Amash is the Syrian Christian from Michigan who stayed up all night to be sure the GOP RINO's didn't pull shenanigans with the Patriot Act and he's a real stickler for all the House rules and the Constitution, giving time to read bills, explaining every vote he takes and why he voted the way he did or didn't on his Facebook page.
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He might be sticking around for a while.
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/special-report-bret-baier/blog/2015/10/08/breaking-john-boehner-has-agreed-stay-speaker (http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/special-report-bret-baier/blog/2015/10/08/breaking-john-boehner-has-agreed-stay-speaker)
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He might be sticking around for a while.
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/special-report-bret-baier/blog/2015/10/08/breaking-john-boehner-has-agreed-stay-speaker (http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/special-report-bret-baier/blog/2015/10/08/breaking-john-boehner-has-agreed-stay-speaker)
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I'm getting the feeling Vaseline may be a solid investment choice
Sent from my iPhone. Freaking autocorrect.
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I'm starting to wonder what the GOP brass will not do to tick off the Tea Party faction. I'm also wondering just how many dyed-in-the-wool Republicans they'll manage to detach from their brand, due to this fiasco. Probably not enough.
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I'm starting to wonder what the GOP brass will not do to tick off the Tea Party faction. I'm also wondering just how many dyed-in-the-wool Republicans they'll manage to detach from their brand, due to this fiasco. Probably not enough.
Boehner has become a caricature of the republican party.