Armed Polite Society
Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Perd Hapley on December 15, 2015, 02:38:16 AM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/12/14/the-biggest-pinocchios-of-2015/
The Hands Up mythology was debunked last year. Maybe the Washington Post is just now gathering the courage to say so?
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Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) loved to tell the story of an elderly man sitting in prison for 10 years after being accused of racketeering and organized crime — just for putting dirt on his land. But just about every aspect of Paul’s recounting was inaccurate and misleading. The man, Robert Lucas, was convicted of mail fraud, conspiracy and environmental violations for his role in developing 67 mobile home lots inside federally protected wetlands, building on wetlands without approval and knowingly selling land with illegal sewage systems that were likely to fail.
I am curious about this one. The description in the last sentence could easily be exactly what Rand is talking about after running it through federal regulatory legalese. I am not sure the author knows what "federally protected wetlands" means.
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Donald Trump repeatedly defended this claim, but a range of studies show there is no evidence immigrants commit more crimes than native-born Americans. Moreover, the vast majority of unauthorized immigrants in prison do not belong in the category that fits Trump’s description: aggravated felons, whose crimes include murder, drug trafficking or illegal trafficking of firearms.
I have heard a South Texas Congressman make a similar claim an interview that a higher percentage of illegal immigrants coming up from Mexico are criminals compared to the rest of the US population. Who is right?
I get the impression, the author did 5 minutes research on each one before writing this. Which underscores how easy it was to figure out the stuff in Missouri was based on a lie.
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I have heard a South Texas Congressman make a similar claim an interview that a higher percentage of illegal immigrants coming up from Mexico are criminals compared to the rest of the US population. Who is right?
I get the impression, the author did 5 minutes research on each one before writing this. Which underscores how easy it was to figure out the stuff in Missouri was based on a lie.
Well, the ones here illegally have already violated the law.
To me it does not seem unreasonable to believe a lot of criminals come up from Mexico to escape their law, given how porous our borders are. There was a big kerfuffle, documented well by Fauxsnew's Bill O'Reilly about an illegal, deported a number of times, who killed a young lady in San Francisco. The local sheriff had refused to hold the bad guy for INS.
Among the vast majority who come here to work, I doubt their criminality rates are either VERY different than ours ..... or exactly the same.
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Well, the ones here illegally have already violated the law.
To me it does not seem unreasonable to believe a lot of criminals come up from Mexico to escape their law, given how porous our borders are. There was a big kerfuffle, documented well by Fauxsnew's Bill O'Reilly about an illegal, deported a number of times, who killed a young lady in San Francisco. The local sheriff had refused to hold the bad guy for INS.
Among the vast majority who come here to work, I doubt their criminality rates are either VERY different than ours ..... or exactly the same.
The "study" that "debunked" that notion had several (purposefully manipulative) methodological problems:
1) It measured ALL immigrants, not just illegal. (I'm willing to bet LEGAL immigrants are less prone to criminality than the native population)
2) It compared immigrants to the same demographic groups in the United States to claim they were "no more prone towards criminality".
So what the study said is that immigrants (both legal and illegal) have the same (significantly higher than average) propensity towards criminality as the demographics with the highest propensity towards criminality in the U.S.
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Wow. The Washington Post surprises me with their outbursts of honesty.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/12/10/marco-rubios-claim-that-no-recent-mass-shootings-would-have-been-prevented-by-gun-laws/
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well, I heard on NPR that 90,000 people had been killed by gunz since Newtown.