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Title: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: MillCreek on January 21, 2017, 06:57:18 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/20/though-champion-gun-rights-president-trump-could-jam-firearm-sales.html

Primarily because there is less concern that the new Administration and Congress will enact more gun controls.
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 21, 2017, 07:06:01 PM
I prefer to think of it as gun (and ammo) prices falling.  =)
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: Fly320s on January 21, 2017, 08:21:21 PM
I prefer to think of it as gun (and ammo) prices falling.  =)

Hear, hear!

And if the Hearing Protection Act becomes law:  Hear, Hear better!
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: Monkeyleg on January 21, 2017, 08:57:36 PM
Hear, hear!

And if the Hearing Protection Act becomes law:  Hear, Hear better!

Except for one thing: where do you go to shoot where there's nobody else shooting, so you can shoot without hearing protection? I have one can, and another on the way, and don't have an answer to that question.
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: French G. on January 21, 2017, 09:44:20 PM
That Cheeto colored monkey better make .22 ammo great again.  =D
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: mtnbkr on January 21, 2017, 09:53:47 PM
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Except for one thing: where do you go to shoot where there's nobody else shooting, so you can shoot without hearing protection? I have one can, and another on the way, and don't have an answer to that question.
For me and my 22lr can, it'll come out with me when I go hiking in the national forest, when I go to deer camp, and even while sitting in a tree stand (good for popping tree rats).  I could potentially get away shooting in my parents' backyard if I am discrete (they are in a semi-suburban area).

Chris
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: MechAg94 on January 21, 2017, 10:14:00 PM
I just ordered a nicer pair of active noise canceling ear plugs with blue tooth.  If my guns are quieter, it will be quieter overall with less need to double up with muffs also. 

Besides, I will still want to shoot 357 magnum and I can't see putting a can on those guns. 
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: dm1333 on January 21, 2017, 10:16:00 PM
Except for one thing: where do you go to shoot where there's nobody else shooting, so you can shoot without hearing protection? I have one can, and another on the way, and don't have an answer to that question.

My local range is empty on enough occasions to make it worthwhile, not to mention the utility during hunting season.
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 21, 2017, 10:19:46 PM
That Cheeto colored monkey better make .22 ammo great again.  =D


Done.

Word is that the nearby Bass Pro Shop is selling 333-round boxes of Federal .22LR for $10 / box.
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: MechAg94 on January 21, 2017, 10:35:49 PM
I can't see gun sales falling off too much.  Too many new shooters over the last 20 years.  And the gun companies keep putting new rifles on the market so it seems they aren't worried.
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 21, 2017, 11:02:53 PM
I can't see gun sales falling off too much.  Too many new shooters over the last 20 years.  And the gun companies keep putting new rifles on the market so it seems they aren't worried.


Wouldn't those new rifles have been in development back when Clinton was expected to win?
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 21, 2017, 11:30:14 PM
Except for one thing: where do you go to shoot where there's nobody else shooting, so you can shoot without hearing protection? I have one can, and another on the way, and don't have an answer to that question.

Well, for me that would be my backyard. =)
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: Fly320s on January 22, 2017, 05:05:21 AM
Except for one thing: where do you go to shoot where there's nobody else shooting, so you can shoot without hearing protection? I have one can, and another on the way, and don't have an answer to that question.

My backyard, like I do now.  Or one of the two ranges I have access to.  Typically, I work weekends so when I go to the range during the week I have the place to myself.  NH has a low population density so the range is hardly ever busy.
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: lee n. field on January 22, 2017, 08:52:54 AM
Except for one thing: where do you go to shoot where there's nobody else shooting, so you can shoot without hearing protection? I have one can, and another on the way, and don't have an answer to that question.

A good part of the time when I go shooting, there's no one else at the club.
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 22, 2017, 09:45:36 AM
We could take this as a challenge.
It's been several years since I've added to the arsenal and I have been kind of lusting after a new compact 1911. Might be time to pull the trigger.
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: mtnbkr on January 22, 2017, 10:31:30 AM
To be honest, I've slowed down purchases a bit myself since Trump got elected.  For so long, I've bought ammo, reloading components, reloading tools, magazines, etc with the idea that at some point I wouldn't be able to (or be restricted).  With Trump's election, I've given myself a break from stockpiling.  Now, when I go to a gun store and only buy what I need in the short term or just browse without feeling compelled to stock up.  It's refreshing.

I'm going to try and focus on shooting what I have.

Chris
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: Ben on January 22, 2017, 11:30:04 AM
I agree with the comment in the article about Trump (and any pro-gun administration) being better for the industry in the long run. Constantly having to realign the workforce and machinery to try and chase whatever the current "up for ban" firearm is, increase production in anticipation of a run, then hope the run occurs so you can actually get rid of inventory is pretty inefficient. Slow and steady does indeed win this race, IMO.

A climate where firearms are safe results in stable inventory and fair prices (well, unless you're HK and hate verybody :)  ).

Sadly, like several of you here, I have been slacking in getting out with the guns. Part of it has been family issues, but I now live in a pro gun area with a couple of nice ranges, so I have to get off my butt this year. One thing I miss about the old place is being able to go into the National Forest and get off the X doing stuff you can't do at a lot of ranges unless you're competing. It was nice getting up there at 0600 on a weekday and having the shooting area to myself for an hour to move and shoot. Like the rest of my misanthropic life, I like avoiding people at the range as much as I do in all other areas.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: French G. on January 22, 2017, 12:02:03 PM
Couple of years and I will probably stock up again. For now, no money.
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: Fly320s on January 22, 2017, 01:23:22 PM
well, unless you're HK and hate verybody

Good German accent, ja.
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: Ben on January 22, 2017, 01:44:01 PM
Good German accent, ja.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: brimic on January 22, 2017, 02:43:50 PM
I buy 2-3 new guns every year, don't see that changing much... I usually tell myself that I don't need another, but that usually doesn't last long.
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: sumpnz on January 22, 2017, 08:13:04 PM
I'm trying remember the gun that I actually bought.  Been given several recently, but not bought any in quite some time.  Last time it was probably the 3 AR-15 complete lowers just before 0bama's first term.  I sold them a couple years later for almost double what I'd paid.  I bought my Beretta AL-391 about the same time frame.  All my other guns date to when I lived in AZ, which was 10+ years ago.

Correction: I did buy my CZ-452 within the last 6.5 years.
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 23, 2017, 01:47:05 PM
To be honest, I've slowed down purchases a bit myself since Trump got elected. 


Me too. Instead, I'm stocking up on Chinese cutlery, before he walls off the Pacific.  :lol:
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: Triphammer on January 23, 2017, 03:19:39 PM
C'mon guys, give Donald a break. After all, the greatest gun salesman in a generation is a tough act to follow.
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 23, 2017, 03:23:04 PM
C'mon guys, give Donald a break. After all, the greatest gun salesman in a generation is a tough act to follow.


Didn't Hillary Clinton actually surpass Obama's record last year?
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: charby on January 23, 2017, 03:34:31 PM


I'm going to try and focus on shooting what I have.

Chris

My plan too, actually I'm thinking about getting a couple duplicates in my most used bolt action rifles. Maybe pick up a couple nice SXS shotgun, one is 12 and one in 20. Get better glass, etc.

I'm at the point where I want to buy nice firearms to enjoy more than the utility aspect of the more affordable ones.
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: MillCreek on January 23, 2017, 04:13:15 PM
My reality is that I can't make enough time/money to shoot all the guns I currently have.  I don't have enough vault space for more and I am hard-pressed to think of anything else I need.  As opposed to want.
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: K Frame on January 24, 2017, 06:47:23 AM
I prefer to think of it as gun (and ammo) prices falling.  =)

Is you an ijiotiot?

EVERYONE knows that current prices are the new normal! And that they'll never, ever, no way in hell not gonna happen, ever go down again!

Because, you know, GREEDY MANUFACTURERS! In collusion with the Obama administration to deny us our Second Amendment rights by using stimulus money to buy up all of the ammo, powder, and primers, and authorizing DHS to buy 400 billion trillion flesh ripping bullets so that they can go to war against America!

It must be true, because brain-dead f*expletive deleted*tards have been bleating it all over the internetz for the past 8 years!
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: K Frame on January 24, 2017, 06:49:16 AM
I can't see gun sales falling off too much.  Too many new shooters over the last 20 years.  And the gun companies keep putting new rifles on the market so it seems they aren't worried.

Silly Man!

Don't you know that recent national surveys have shown that only 3 people in the United States own guns?

THREE!
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 24, 2017, 06:49:35 AM
Mike, eat Snickers.
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: K Frame on January 24, 2017, 06:56:09 AM
Mike, eat Snickers.

That's what I used to say (sometimes) to all of those idiots who think that prices can only go up.

I fully expect sales to taper off, if not fall off a freaking cliff, in the next few months.

People haven't just been buying for the last 8 years, many people have been going out of their flipping minds buying stuff. A large driver was the constant threat that there was going to be new and draconian anti-gun legislation.

With that threat removed, at least for now, people aren't going to feel the pressure/need to buy something that might very well be targeted tomorrow.


This crap is cyclical. It happened under Carter, it happened under Clinton, and it happened in a very huge way under Obama.

In each of those cases, the spikes in sales were followed by a leveling off, if not an outright drop, when relatively gun friendly presidents took office.

There was one exception, though... post 1986 FOPA. Sales of surplus firearms and ammunition grew explosively for a number of years as people bought high-quality, low price foreign surplus that had been shut out of the US market for years.

In 1992 I bought two as new unissued Chinese SKS rifles for $60 a piece, and 2 cases of ammo for about $55 each.
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 24, 2017, 08:08:31 AM
I think I paid $100 for the unissued Russian SKS I bought in '95. Wish I still had the damn thing.

Yeah, I hope you're right and I agree with your logic but, that is in fact my picture in the dictionary entry for "cynical ahole". =D
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: French G. on January 24, 2017, 10:18:13 AM
I came late to the gun party but I think the early 2000's were a golden age of shooting. The ban had no real teeth, the internet came into its own as an information resource and commercial outlet and prices were excellent. $100/5000rd case of .22, $150/case of .223, reloading 9mm for $65/1000, that's what I want back.
Title: Re: Gun sales could fall under President Trump
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 24, 2017, 12:42:26 PM
I buy 2-3 new guns every year, don't see that changing much... I usually tell myself that I don't need another, but that usually doesn't last long.

Since when has need been a parameter in gun buying?


Anecdotal, but the owner of the range where I shoot teaches a gun safety class required in this state to get a carry permit. (Disclaimer: I took my permit class from him almost twenty years ago.) He offers the class every Saturday morning, with a class size limit of 15 people. He has been sold out for months, and he's still booked up through about March.