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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: MillCreek on March 13, 2017, 03:43:15 PM
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I am going to go chat tomorrow with a local healthcare facility about a position as their quality and risk director and they do not know me. I wear business attire (dress shirt, tie, suit or sportcoat/dress slacks) every work day, and about half the time, I wear a bow tie. Being the risk manager often has a somewhat grim connotation with it in healthcare since people often think something awful has happened or will happen when I show up. Many people have said the bow tie makes me look less scary and more approachable.
This is front of an interview panel of providers, medical directors and other executives.
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Not an expert but I would go with a normal necktie.
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Ditto a "regular" necktie. Business dress for a business meeting. Save the bow tie for formal affairs.
Brad
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Totally get your "approachability" reasoning for patients, but I would go with a conservative regular tie for the interview.
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We need more information. Are your bow ties the stationary type, or do they spin? Because I would be most impressed by an applicant who sported the latter.
Also, please provide any risk assessments you've prepared for the various options.
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Regular tie. Don't risk a bow tie. :)
I did one interview with a western bolo tie, but that was back when Colorado was Colorado and Terry was Terry and even our Senators wore them.
Nowadays they're <ahem, koff-koff> deplorable.
Good luck, in any case.
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Bowtie ONLY if you wear a white linen suite and have a beard and moustache like Harlan Sanders.
And take fried chicken with you.
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Three piece, thin bow tie, SAA tied low on the hip.
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Conservative neck tie, nothing wild.
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Bowtie ONLY if you wear a white linen suite and have a beard and moustache like Harlan Sanders.
And take fried chicken with you.
https://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/forum/showthread.php?111407-Understanding-the-Colonel-Sanders-Tie I guess it is more properly called a string tie.
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Conservative neck tie, nothing wild.
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Conservative neck tie unless part of your duties would include serving as an irritating mime.
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Conservative neck tie unless part of your duties would include serving as an irritating mime.
That is both over-redundant and repetitive.
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*builds invisible wall*
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Bow tie only if you're going for the absent minded professor look.
A former ceo of a multinational manufacturing company told me he always looked at thier shoes when interviewing upper management. He said what they wear and more importantly how they care for them told him a lot.
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Regular tie for such things
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An alternative:
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Not an expert but I would go with a normal necktie.
Absolutely.
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Better hurry; it's one of a kind.
https://www.etsy.com/listing/214666756/worlds-ugliest-tie-ugly-necktie-vintage?&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_us_c-accessories-suit_and_tie_accessories-neckties&utm_custom1=3d418b21-cef4-48a6-bc9e-de22a418af00&gclid=CNzllZnD1NICFdi4wAodA7gCVA
Or how about something more cheerful?
http://www.absoluteties.com/jerry-garcia-merry-christmas-tie-----8082.html?utm_source=googlepepla&utm_medium=adwords&id=269037583848&gclid=CPG0lfjC1NICFQmGaQodNGEFtw
Or simple geometry?
https://www.zazzle.com/uglytie_8_neck_tie-151241491027704964
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Yeah, I'd really want to hire this guy.
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And here's a prominent Senator playing another prominent Senator . . . not much gravitas here.
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My advice? Stick to a conventional necktie for an interview.
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Traditional neck tie. Odds are good there will be a lawyer or two lawyers on the panel. Dress like one.
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Unless bill Nye works there I would go regular.
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So long as it fits you, go for the bow tie. It can show confidence in yourself.
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Unless bill Nye works there I would go regular.
He at least used to live in the general vicinity. Not any more apparently. He was an engineer at Boeing before he got on TV.
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He at least used to live in the general vicinity. Not any more apparently. He was an engineer at Boeing before he got on TV.
I actually met Bill Nye several times when he was still local. He has an undergrad degree in mechanical engineering from Cornell and was an engineer at Boeing for a while. Then he started on a local comedy show, Almost Live, and his TV career took off from there. His most famous characters on Almost Live were the Science Guy, Speedwalker, and Streetwalking Lawyer.
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For the interview today, I am going with a red silk tie with white pindots against a French blue Land's End button down oxford. Normal business attire for me. No bow tie today.
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For the interview today, I am going with a red silk tie with white pindots against a French blue Land's End button down oxford. Normal business attire for me. No bow tie today.
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So long as it fits you, go for the bow tie. It can show confidence in yourself.
Agreed.
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I was underwhelmed by the interview and facility, it took me 90 minutes to go 40 miles this morning and similar to get home. I have decided the relatively-minimal increase in the pay range is not worth it for an 80 mile commute when I don't need a new job, and I will pass on the position.
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I was underwhelmed by the interview and facility, it took me 90 minutes to go 40 miles this morning and similar to get home. I have decided the relatively-minimal increase in the pay range is not worth it for an 80 mile commute when I don't need a new job, and I will pass on the position.
Quality of life dude. It's why I never took a DC gig. A career hit was a personal life plus for me.
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I was underwhelmed by the interview and facility, it took me 90 minutes to go 40 miles this morning and similar to get home. I have decided the relatively-minimal increase in the pay range is not worth it for an 80 mile commute when I don't need a new job, and I will pass on the position.
But just think how your legs will look if you bike commute.
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Quality of life dude. It's why I never took a DC gig. A career hit was a personal life plus for me.
The older I get, the more quality of life means, especially since I have about five years left before retirement.