Armed Polite Society

Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Frank Castle on April 16, 2017, 03:25:13 PM

Title: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: Frank Castle on April 16, 2017, 03:25:13 PM
(https://www.okshooters.com/attachments/img_1637-jpg.99805/)



 [popcorn]
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: Jocassee on April 16, 2017, 03:34:33 PM
Brutal...
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: Ben on April 16, 2017, 03:42:00 PM
Don't mess with old guys. We fight dirty and got nothin' to lose.

:P
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: 230RN on April 16, 2017, 04:45:33 PM
Let's hope you never get old.  >:D  =D
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: AmbulanceDriver on April 16, 2017, 04:47:28 PM
Yeah, I had that holster at one time (before I knew better). 

I still carry my 1911.....   but it's in a custom IWB rig.  So THHHHHHHHHHHHBT!
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: RoadKingLarry on April 16, 2017, 05:02:14 PM
So...I'm guessing the "I carry a Glock" starter kit includes skinny jeans and man bun hair tie.
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: BryanP on April 16, 2017, 05:29:17 PM
Chambered in .45AARP?

Who am I kidding? I carry a revolver and I just got my first AARP offer.
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: Ben on April 16, 2017, 05:37:58 PM
Chambered in .45AARP?

Who am I kidding? I carry a revolver and I just got my first AARP offer.

That AARP is a nervy bunch, sending people their crap starting at 50.

Fifty years from now, somebody's gonna post something about the guys who still carry slug throwers instead of energy weapons.  :laugh:
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: BryanP on April 16, 2017, 05:42:22 PM
That AARP is a nervy bunch, sending people their crap starting at 50.

Fifty years from now, somebody's gonna post something about the guys who still carry slug throwers instead of energy weapons.  :laugh:


I'll be 49 this year. They're jumping the 1911 on me. 
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: Frank Castle on April 16, 2017, 05:45:01 PM
That AARP is a nervy bunch, sending people their crap starting at 50.

Fifty years from now, somebody's gonna post something about the guys who still carry slug throwers instead of energy weapons.  :laugh:

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fweknowmemes.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F05%2Fstormtrooper-problems.jpg&hash=67e70f4e0eade9d823d782a33be4d63a8cf3d622)
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: Jim147 on April 16, 2017, 06:55:01 PM
crap aarp started sending me crap in my 30's i guess they knew they had a short window.
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: KD5NRH on April 16, 2017, 08:09:11 PM
So...I'm guessing the "I carry a Glock" starter kit includes skinny jeans and man bun hair tie.

Training bra and tactical wheelbarrow.
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: Hawkmoon on April 16, 2017, 08:13:45 PM
(https://www.okshooters.com/attachments/img_1637-jpg.99805/)



 [popcorn]

???

I don't get it. I carry a 1911, in a dead cow (or dead horse) holster, but I don't recognize those other images. I remember seeing walkers in the hospital, but what does that have to do with carrying the sidearm that defined what a semi-automatic handgun should be?

I think someone who owns a Glock must have 1911 envy.  >:D
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: MechAg94 on April 16, 2017, 09:04:36 PM
Yeah, I had that holster at one time (before I knew better). 

I still carry my 1911.....   but it's in a custom IWB rig.  So THHHHHHHHHHHHBT!

Gotta start that box of used holsters somewhere. 
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: MechAg94 on April 16, 2017, 09:05:44 PM
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fweknowmemes.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F05%2Fstormtrooper-problems.jpg&hash=67e70f4e0eade9d823d782a33be4d63a8cf3d622)
The only thing more ineffective than storm troopers in the original trilogy were the rebel soldiers (who weren't heroes). 
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: MechAg94 on April 16, 2017, 09:08:39 PM
Speaking of holsters.  Perhaps a business idea would be some sort of used holster exchange.  I need to swap unused holsters for someone else's unused holsters. 


That way I can have a different set of unused holsters in a box and claim I got them cheaper at HalfPriceHolsters.com 
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 16, 2017, 09:17:26 PM
Speaking of holsters.  Perhaps a business idea would be some sort of used holster exchange.  I need to swap unused holsters for someone else's unused holsters.  


That way I can have a different set of unused holsters in a box and claim I got them cheaper at HalfPriceHolsters.com  

I think that's called eBay.


It's interesting to me that so many recent articles I've read about the 1911 take care to explain the difference between it and the striker-fired handguns that everyone apparently starts out with now.  :old:

I got interested in 1911s (and guns in general) while in my early twenties, and started carrying a sidearm (a 1911) at the hoary, old age of 36.  I'm an ancient 40 years old at present, and looking to add a new-fangled 9mm to my carry options, probably one o' them plastic, striker jobs. If I live long enough.

You whipper-snappers got it all wrong. The 1911 is part of the CCW Starter Pack. You branch out (or not) from there. Double  :old:
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: Hawkmoon on April 16, 2017, 10:42:07 PM

I'm an ancient 40 years old at present, and looking to add a new-fangled 9mm to my carry options, probably one o' them plastic, striker jobs. If I live long enough.


They make 1911s in 9mm, you know. Why not carry an old-fangled 9mm 1911?
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 16, 2017, 11:25:14 PM
They make 1911s in 9mm, you know. Why not carry an old-fangled 9mm 1911?


Why not try something new (to me)? The goal is to have something for when smaller and lighter is indicated, but I also want to branch out a bit.

On the other hand, if you have any cut-down 9mm 1911s, don't hesitate to send them my way.  =)
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: RoadKingLarry on April 16, 2017, 11:32:03 PM

Why not try something new (to me)? The goal is to have something for when smaller and lighter is indicated, but I also want to branch out a bit.

On the other hand, if you have any cut-down 9mm 1911s, don't hesitate to send them my way.  =)

1911 comes in 3 sizes, if one of them won't do it maybe you could throw your bottle of Midol at them.
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 16, 2017, 11:56:52 PM
OK, you guys got me. I'm not man enough for John Browning's masterpiece. Where do I go to surrender the weapon?
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: just Warren on April 17, 2017, 12:13:29 AM
My house.

And yes, you'll get a recipe.
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: brimic on April 17, 2017, 12:15:33 AM
Who needs a 9mm when there is .38 Super?
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 17, 2017, 07:10:20 AM
Who needs a 9mm when there is .38 Super?


The S&W Shield - now in .38 Super?
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: lee n. field on April 17, 2017, 08:16:35 AM

The S&W Shield - now in .38 Super?

<sarc>
"Yay!!!   It's stryker fired!!!"
</sarc>
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: lee n. field on April 17, 2017, 08:50:05 AM
I think that's called eBay.


It's interesting to me that so many recent articles I've read about the 1911 take care to explain the difference between it and the striker-fired handguns that everyone apparently starts out with now.  :old:

I got interested in 1911s (and guns in general) while in my early twenties, and started carrying a sidearm (a 1911) at the hoary, old age of 36.  I'm an ancient 40 years old at present, and looking to add a new-fangled 9mm to my carry options, probably one o' them plastic, striker jobs. If I live long enough.

No need to rush things.

Or "buy a Glock and be done with it."  Or lately, I guess, "buy a Sig 320 and be done with it."

(A huge annoyance for me.  Yuuuge.   Thread after thread on any given gunboard asking after preferences for striker vs. hammer for this purpose or that, where the questioner and participants are often unclear on the concepts and distinctions.     :facepalm:)
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: T.O.M. on April 17, 2017, 09:01:18 AM
Last year, I saved up around $1,000 for a gun purchase.  Went into it with the idea of getting a 1911.  As I shopped around, I came to realize that $1,000 wasn't enough for what I was looking for in a 1911, unless I went with one of the "second tier" companies like Rock Island.  While I was at the LGS looking, they had a SIG P225 on sale, in my price range, with night sights, a third magazine, and some really cool G-10 grips.  I bought it.  I guess that makes me, at age 48, somewhere between the 1911 curmudgeon and a young whipper-snapper Glock guy.
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 17, 2017, 09:06:36 AM
...one of the "second tier" companies like Rock Island. 

Has Rock Island achieved second tier status now? Good for them!   :lol:
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: K Frame on April 17, 2017, 09:08:40 AM
Chambered in .45AARP?

Who am I kidding? I carry a revolver and I just got my first AARP offer.


I've carried a revolver as my CCW of choice since I was 21 years old.

I have carried a semi-auto at times, but probably 75% of the time that I've carried it's been a revolver.
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: Pb on April 17, 2017, 09:50:04 AM
Well, I've got the shoes at least....
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: Scout26 on April 17, 2017, 10:27:26 AM
Last year, I saved up around $1,000 for a gun purchase.  Went into it with the idea of getting a 1911.  As I shopped around, I came to realize that $1,000 wasn't enough for what I was looking for in a 1911, unless I went with one of the "second tier" companies like Rock Island.  While I was at the LGS looking, they had a SIG P225 on sale, in my price range, with night sights, a third magazine, and some really cool G-10 grips.  I bought it.  I guess that makes me, at age 48, somewhere between the 1911 curmudgeon and a young whipper-snapper Glock guy.

Your grandfather is so disappointed.   And I would definitely consider Rock Island first tier...
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: HeroHog on April 17, 2017, 10:42:21 AM
My 1911 was a Norinco and was a very well made, 100% parts compatible and reliable gun BUT the platform just didn't endear itself to me and I sold it.

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fherohog.com%2Fimages%2Fguns%2FNorinco45ACP.jpg&hash=58eac37d64e1fdc532ec9f8411b71ac39f3d49c6)

I was never a Glock fanboy either until I bought a G19 3rd Gen for the wife and I shot it a few times. Now I think it's a GREAT carry gun!

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fherohog.com%2Fimages%2Fguns%2Fglock19.jpg&hash=4baf282a8d45dd6e30f9cb86f21347dbcf4a789d)

 :old:
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: K Frame on April 17, 2017, 11:11:19 AM
Just to be clear, I do have a 1911, a Springfield 1911-A1 Milspec. Nice handgun, but I'd never carry it as my CCW.

If I were to carry a .45, it would be my S&W 4506.

If I were to carry a single-action-type handgun, that would be my Browning Hi Power.
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: HeroHog on April 17, 2017, 11:29:32 AM
Seeing as the wife repossessed her G19, I carry my old S&W Model 59 now.

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fherohog.com%2Fimages%2Fguns%2FS%26amp%3BW_Mod59.jpg&hash=57ac9d58fbac7dde1c49e19241bf98db06135b9d)

She sits right next to me here when I'm not out and about.
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fherohog.com%2Fimages%2Fguns%2FS%26amp%3BWmod59.jpeg&hash=b48f07013d572be1d0ed04744ae8b5df85408530)

 :old:
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: Hawkmoon on April 17, 2017, 01:31:45 PM
1911 comes in 3 sizes, if one of them won't do it maybe you could throw your bottle of Midol at them.

I know of at least six sizes, and that doesn't include the Para double stacks.


The Slim Hawg, especially, is hardly larger than most "pocket" pistols.
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: K Frame on April 17, 2017, 01:41:36 PM
You all forgot to mention the REAL 1911... Not that pussy pop gun... :rofl:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Schmidt-Rubin-2.jpg/1024px-Schmidt-Rubin-2.jpg)
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: HeroHog on April 17, 2017, 02:35:04 PM
LONGSLIDE!
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: gunsmith on April 17, 2017, 11:53:04 PM
Just to be clear, I do have a 1911, a Springfield 1911-A1 Milspec. Nice handgun, but I'd never carry it as my CCW.

If I were to carry a .45, it would be my S&W 4506.

If I were to carry a single-action-type handgun, that would be my Browning Hi Power.

yrs ago, i had a subscription to gun test magazine, they gave glowing reviews about  Springfield 1911-A1 Milspec, why wouldn't you carry it?

I've been wanting one for yrs, of course i would have a lot of practice to do to feel comfortable because I too usally carry a revolver  ( and or a glock in my case )

Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: K Frame on April 18, 2017, 06:55:37 AM
Well, I'm not at all a fan of carrying a single-action pistol C&L. But if I HAD to carry such a pistol, I'd rather carry my 14-round Hi Power. But I'd not be all that crazy about carrying it, either.
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: MechAg94 on April 18, 2017, 11:12:22 AM
For carry, I switch between a Springfield XD Mod 2 in 45 and a Glock 19.  I just got the Glock 19, but I like it a lot so far so I expect it will be my 9 mm carry gun going forward. 

A co-worker has begun shooting IDPA matches lately and telling me about it.  It has gotten me thinking about the guns I have that would be interesting to shoot with in a match like that.  I need to find a good OWB holster I can use for revolvers I have along with other guns.  I have a S&W 45 ACP revolver and a Ruger Match Champion in 357 mag that I would like to carry occasionally if I had a good holster.

Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: K Frame on April 18, 2017, 11:32:25 AM
This is my primary carry gun, an S&W 042. (that one's not mine, but it is identical except for the grips).

Kind of uncommon, as it was a limited run uncatalogged item.

(https://picturearchive.gunauction.com/504669/7472134/7e6de9ed4aea290a06994fb843d36e70.jpg)
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: 230RN on April 18, 2017, 11:45:11 AM
^ 404 error.

Try this:

http://www.tactical-life.com/combat-handguns/sw-m42-centennial-38spl-p/

I think that's the one.  Looks just like my Airweight, my own primary carry gun, but I've also got a Lasergrip on it.  Which reminds me, I've got to change the battery in it.
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: K Frame on April 18, 2017, 11:53:46 AM
You're kidding?

I'm seeing the picture plain as day.

It's from the picture archive at Gunauction.com



And no. They're NOT the same.

The 042 (notice the preceding 0) was a limited production non-catalog item in 1992.

Indications are that S&W was trying a new finishing process, and it failed, on 642s, so they were polished down and refinished in matte black, with some being given more of a gloss blue finish.

Production was limited to something fewer than 3,000 042s were made.

They're Airweights, but not marked airweight.



Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: RoadKingLarry on April 18, 2017, 11:59:46 AM
This is my primary carry gun, an S&W 042. (that one's not mine, but it is identical except for the grips).

Kind of uncommon, as it was a limited run uncatalogged item.

(https://picturearchive.gunauction.com/504669/7472134/7e6de9ed4aea290a06994fb843d36e70.jpg)

I've got a 642 I picked up a few years ago. I'd have to look it up but it was some sort of special run. No lawyer lock. I carry it when I want something smaller.than my compact 1911.
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: K Frame on April 18, 2017, 12:02:49 PM
I think Mtnbkr has one of those recent run 642s with no lock, but I'm not 100% sure about that.
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: BobR on April 18, 2017, 12:05:33 PM
I carry a 1911 but since I just bought my 2nd 10mm 1911 I am going to get a double shoulder rig so I can carry two.   :P

bob
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: 230RN on April 18, 2017, 12:09:44 PM
You're kidding?

I'm seeing the picture plain as day.

It's from the picture archive at Gunauction.com



And no. They're NOT the same.

The 042 (notice the preceding 0) was a limited production non-catalog item in 1992.

Indications are that S&W was trying a new finishing process, and it failed, on 642s, so they were polished down and refinished in matte black, with some being given more of a gloss blue finish.

Production was limited to something fewer than 3,000 042s were made.

They're Airweights, but not marked airweight.


Nope.  Here's what I get in Properties, without the "h."

(h removed so the system won't create an actual link)

ttps://picturearchive.gunauction.com/504669/7472134/7e6de9ed4aea290a06994fb843d36e70.jpg

So it's a recovered factory screw up?  Not that there's anything wrong with that.  No big deal, but I just wanted to see what the picture was, so OK, and that's that.



Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: K Frame on April 18, 2017, 01:14:33 PM
Dang. I have no idea why I can see it and you can't.

That's weird.

And yes, essentially considered to be a factory production error in that the finishing process did not result in what was wanted.

Apparently the first batch that was produced had the bad finish and were completed guns. They were reworked and the model number was overstamped to make it look like 042 instead of 642.

Later guns in the same group, which had not been finished or stamped, were given the new finish and stamped 042. Mine is one of those guns.
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: lee n. field on April 18, 2017, 02:02:23 PM
This is my primary carry gun, an S&W 042. (that one's not mine, but it is identical except for the grips).

Kind of uncommon, as it was a limited run uncatalogged item.

https://picturearchive.gunauction.com/504669/7472134/7e6de9ed4aea290a06994fb843d36e70.jpg

pseudohtml whacked.  I'm not seeing that image at all.  "page canna be foun."  No matter.  The 042 looks like, as said, a 442/642.
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: mtnbkr on April 18, 2017, 02:17:54 PM
I think Mtnbkr has one of those recent run 642s with no lock, but I'm not 100% sure about that.

It's a 37-2 with factory bobbed hammer, no lock, and forged internals.

Chris
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: MechAg94 on April 19, 2017, 10:08:30 AM
Since revolvers were brought up.....

I have a S&W 625 and a Ruger GP100 match champion in 357 that I need holsters for.  I am not quite sure where to start looking.  I thinking of something like an OWB holster that a shirt could still hang over.  Essentially something good for IDPA would work.  Any thoughts on better brands to look at?
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: K Frame on April 19, 2017, 10:44:29 AM
Well, the 625 is an N frame, so you'd need a holster for that model and for whatever barrel length it is.

Galco, Bianchi, Don Hume and Safariland are probably the most common and all are well thought of holsters.
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: BobR on April 19, 2017, 12:40:40 PM
I had an N Frame holster made by this guy (http://taurisholsters.com/) and am very happy with it. Although there are a lot of good bulk holster makers out there I liked working with him because he was able to make some minor adjustments when he built it.

bob
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: 230RN on April 20, 2017, 07:19:26 PM
I had a devil of a time finding an off the shelf holster for a small LaserGuard-ed auto.  The gun came with a "skeletonized" holster, which did not have room for the laser sight. I hated that holster even without the laser anyhow since you needed a fork lift to draw the danged gun. Timing-wise, it was almost like trying to draw a gun from a locked case.

A local gun/reloading shop around here has a "box o' holsters" and I even rooted through that with no joy.

 I finally broke down and just got an el-cheapo nylon (Ewww!) Blackhawk for it for a completely different gun as a temporary rig two years ago. Two, count 'em, (2) years ago.  Temporary, you say?

I'm toying with the idea of getting one of those "Sneaky Pete" holsters, which look like they're indifferent to having a LaserGuard attached to the gun and can be worn in full view of the proletariat.

My Tacticool score around here is about 0.50 out of 10.0.

Gun.
Have.
Goes bang.

That's about it.

Terry

REF:
http://www.sneakypeteholsters.com/

Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: MechAg94 on April 20, 2017, 08:37:22 PM
I have had that issue as well.  Some of the main IWB holster makers seem to have few attachment options especially for guns that are not as common.  Crimson Trace as a holster guide on their site that can give you companies to try.  I have a Swaprig holster for my XD 45 mod 2 with laser.  It is similar to the Crossbreed design though not the same.  I never looked at their OWB style holsters. 

I have never noticed anyone carrying a SneakyPete holster.   =)
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: 230RN on April 20, 2017, 10:09:03 PM
^ LOLs  You're obviously one of the proles.
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: RoadKingLarry on April 20, 2017, 10:30:36 PM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2913/34169252145_84163eb764_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/U4qmdZ)glock chew toy (https://flic.kr/p/U4qmdZ) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/19769480@N08/)
Title: Re: The "I carry a 1911" Starterpack
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 21, 2017, 12:07:40 AM
Don't dogs just know the 1911 is the alpha?